David Kastrup | 23 Feb 2005 02:36
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No way.


Hmmm.  Don't rasterize so well...


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Ralf Angeli | 23 Feb 2005 11:04
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Re: No way.

* David Kastrup (2005-02-23) writes:

> Hmmm.  Don't rasterize so well...

I scaled down the GTK stock dialog error image and it looks very nice
as a PNG image:


But it's horrible when converted to XPM (that's why I am not including
them in this message).

Icons with some plasticity as the ones above would give preview-latex
a look which is a bit more modern.  (Is the color cell problem still
an issue?)

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David Kastrup | 23 Feb 2005 11:39
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Re: Re: No way.

Ralf Angeli <angeli <at> iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:

> * David Kastrup (2005-02-23) writes:
>
>> Hmmm.  Don't rasterize so well...
>
> I scaled down the GTK stock dialog error image and it looks very nice
> as a PNG image:
>
> But it's horrible when converted to XPM (that's why I am not including
> them in this message).

Yeah, I noticed (my icon list included a PNG as last item by mistake).

> Icons with some plasticity as the ones above would give
> preview-latex a look which is a bit more modern.  (Is the color cell
> problem still an issue?)

I don't know.  Anyway, the error icon does not need to look nice.  It
is supposed to stand out.  And traffic signs _are_ flat.

Maybe I should add a one-pixel border of desaturized red (strictly
speaking something like grey20, but since most backgrounds will
probably be light, grey40 might be better) around the sign to make it
blend better with weakly colored backgrounds.  That would take the
edge off somewhat.

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Ralf Angeli | 23 Feb 2005 11:54
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Re: Re: No way.

* David Kastrup (2005-02-23) writes:

> Ralf Angeli <angeli <at> iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:
>
>> Icons with some plasticity as the ones above would give
>> preview-latex a look which is a bit more modern.  (Is the color cell
>> problem still an issue?)
>
> I don't know.  Anyway, the error icon does not need to look nice.  It
> is supposed to stand out.  And traffic signs _are_ flat.

So what?  If this would be about realism, you could just get outside,
shoot a photo of such a sign and put that in.  (In the larger versions
you could stand beside the sign and make a grim face.)

> Maybe I should add a one-pixel border of desaturized red (strictly
> speaking something like grey20, but since most backgrounds will
> probably be light, grey40 might be better) around the sign to make it
> blend better with weakly colored backgrounds.  That would take the
> edge off somewhat.

Most of the Gnome 1.x XPM icons had sharp black borders (see
<URL:http://web.archive.org/web/20000817013044/tigert.gimp.org/gnome/gnome-stock/>)
and many of the current ones have, too (though not that sharp).

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David Kastrup | 23 Feb 2005 12:14
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Re: Re: No way.

Ralf Angeli <angeli <at> iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:

> * David Kastrup (2005-02-23) writes:
>
>> Ralf Angeli <angeli <at> iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:
>>
>>> Icons with some plasticity as the ones above would give
>>> preview-latex a look which is a bit more modern.  (Is the color cell
>>> problem still an issue?)
>>
>> I don't know.  Anyway, the error icon does not need to look nice.
>> It is supposed to stand out.  And traffic signs _are_ flat.
>
> So what?  If this would be about realism, you could just get
> outside, shoot a photo of such a sign and put that in.

The letters on the screen are not plastic either.

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Ralf Angeli | 23 Feb 2005 13:11
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Re: No way.

* David Kastrup (2005-02-23) writes:

> Ralf Angeli <angeli <at> iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:
>
>> * David Kastrup (2005-02-23) writes:
>>
>>> Ralf Angeli <angeli <at> iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:
>>>
>>>> Icons with some plasticity as the ones above would give
>>>> preview-latex a look which is a bit more modern.  (Is the color cell
>>>> problem still an issue?)
>>>
>>> I don't know.  Anyway, the error icon does not need to look nice.
>>> It is supposed to stand out.  And traffic signs _are_ flat.
>>
>> So what?  If this would be about realism, you could just get
>> outside, shoot a photo of such a sign and put that in.
>
> The letters on the screen are not plastic either.

Isn't that an argument _for_ plastic graphics?  In the end, I thought,
they are supposed to stand out.

Anyway, if you wanted to make do with letters, you could use ☹, ☸ or
↯.  (I don't expect many people to have the necessary fonts installed
to see them.  Actually I see only empty sqares while writing this
message.  They work with Unifont, though.)

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David Kastrup | 23 Feb 2005 12:12
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Re: Re: No way.

Ralf Angeli <angeli <at> iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:

> * David Kastrup (2005-02-23) writes:
>
>> Ralf Angeli <angeli <at> iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:
>>
>>> Icons with some plasticity as the ones above would give
>>> preview-latex a look which is a bit more modern.  (Is the color cell
>>> problem still an issue?)
>>
>> I don't know.  Anyway, the error icon does not need to look nice.  It
>> is supposed to stand out.  And traffic signs _are_ flat.
>
> So what?  If this would be about realism, you could just get
> outside, shoot a photo of such a sign and put that in.

Much too low contrast, bad digitization artifacts.

> (In the larger versions you could stand beside the sign and make a
> grim face.)
>
>> Maybe I should add a one-pixel border of desaturized red (strictly
>> speaking something like grey20, but since most backgrounds will
>> probably be light, grey40 might be better) around the sign to make it
>> blend better with weakly colored backgrounds.  That would take the
>> edge off somewhat.
>
> Most of the Gnome 1.x XPM icons had sharp black borders (see
> <URL:http://web.archive.org/web/20000817013044/tigert.gimp.org/gnome/gnome-stock/>)
> and many of the current ones have, too (though not that sharp).
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