Robert Frick | 7 Jun 2012 22:19
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fast lead, card from previous trick still face up

Obviously, after players have played to a trick, they turn their card face  
down. Here on Long Island, I think people try not to lead until all four  
cards have been turned face down. In fact, if a player left their card  
face up, people would usually face their cards if the player seemed to be  
deliberately leaving their card face up.

Of course, if you won a trick that declarer just revoked on, and declarer  
still had the revoking card face up on the table, you would not want to  
wait for her to possibly figure out what had happened, and you surely  
would not want to let everyone face their cards from the previous trick.  
Your best strategy would be to lead.

That's what happened today. The stories conflict from then on, but include  
the defender telling declarer to turn her card over, I think when it was  
her turn to play to the next trick. But it also was clear that she had  
played from the dummy and she never figured out that she had revoked much  
less make any attempt to correct it. According to her, her only attempt  
was to try to figure out what was happening.

But there seems to be no infraction.

Bob
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Sven Pran | 7 Jun 2012 23:06
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Re: fast lead, card from previous trick still face up

> Robert Frick 
> Obviously, after players have played to a trick, they turn their card face
> down. Here on Long Island, I think people try not to lead until all four
cards
> have been turned face down. In fact, if a player left their card face up,
> people would usually face their cards if the player seemed to be
deliberately
> leaving their card face up.
> 
> Of course, if you won a trick that declarer just revoked on, and declarer
still
> had the revoking card face up on the table, you would not want to wait for
> her to possibly figure out what had happened, and you surely would not
> want to let everyone face their cards from the previous trick.
> Your best strategy would be to lead.
> 
> That's what happened today. The stories conflict from then on, but include
> the defender telling declarer to turn her card over, I think when it was
her
> turn to play to the next trick. But it also was clear that she had played
from
> the dummy and she never figured out that she had revoked much less make
> any attempt to correct it. According to her, her only attempt was to try
to
> figure out what was happening.
> 
> But there seems to be no infraction.

[Sven Pran] Well, no player has any business telling another player to turn
her card over. Each player has the sole responsibility for handling her own
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Eric Landau | 8 Jun 2012 22:42
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Re: fast lead, card from previous trick still face up

On Jun 7, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Robert Frick wrote:

> Obviously, after players have played to a trick, they turn their  
> card face
> down. Here on Long Island, I think people try not to lead until all  
> four
> cards have been turned face down. In fact, if a player left their card
> face up, people would usually face their cards if the player seemed  
> to be
> deliberately leaving their card face up.
>
> Of course, if you won a trick that declarer just revoked on, and  
> declarer
> still had the revoking card face up on the table, you would not  
> want to
> wait for her to possibly figure out what had happened, and you surely
> would not want to let everyone face their cards from the previous  
> trick.
> Your best strategy would be to lead.
>
> That's what happened today. The stories conflict from then on, but  
> include
> the defender telling declarer to turn her card over, I think when  
> it was
> her turn to play to the next trick. But it also was clear that she had
> played from the dummy and she never figured out that she had  
> revoked much
> less make any attempt to correct it. According to her, her only  
> attempt
> was to try to figure out what was happening.
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