Eric Rescorla | 9 Jul 2012 21:24

[AVTCORE] FYI: draft-rescorla-random-cname-00

As discussed at the RTCWEB interim:

Executive summary: use a CSPRNG to generate CNAMEs.

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Kevin Gross | 9 Jul 2012 23:51

Re: [AVTCORE] FYI: draft-rescorla-random-cname-00

Good start.


Please consider referencing to RFC 4086.

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On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr <at> rtfm.com> wrote:
As discussed at the RTCWEB interim:


Executive summary: use a CSPRNG to generate CNAMEs.

-Ekr
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Eric Rescorla | 9 Jul 2012 23:56

Re: [AVTCORE] FYI: draft-rescorla-random-cname-00

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Kevin Gross <kevin.gross <at> avanw.com> wrote:
> Good start.
>
> Please consider referencing to RFC 4086.
>
> Kevin Gross
> +1-303-447-0517
> Media Network Consultant
> AVA Networks - www.AVAnw.com, www.X192.org
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr <at> rtfm.com> wrote:
>>
>> As discussed at the RTCWEB interim:
>>
>>
>> Executive summary: use a CSPRNG to generate CNAMEs.
>>
>> -Ekr
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>

I meant to. Turns out that RFC 4096 and RFC 4086 are not the same
thing. Doh!

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Colin Perkins | 11 Jul 2012 14:00

Re: [AVTCORE] FYI: draft-rescorla-random-cname-00

[limiting replies to avt, since this is about details]

On 9 Jul 2012, at 20:24, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> As discussed at the RTCWEB interim:
> 
> Executive summary: use a CSPRNG to generate CNAMEs.

Section 2.1 says: "The timestamp (from the RTP header) to within a few seconds.  With a typical 100
ticks/second clock, this represents about 10 bits of entropy at most (and potentially more like 2-3
bits)". The RTP timestamp has a random initial value, and typically ticks at either 8kHz or 90kHz. It's not
a wall clock. There's more entropy here than supposed. 

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Eric Rescorla | 11 Jul 2012 16:51

Re: [AVTCORE] FYI: draft-rescorla-random-cname-00

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Colin Perkins <csp <at> csperkins.org> wrote:
> [limiting replies to avt, since this is about details]
>
> On 9 Jul 2012, at 20:24, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>> As discussed at the RTCWEB interim:
>>
>> Executive summary: use a CSPRNG to generate CNAMEs.
>
>
> Section 2.1 says: "The timestamp (from the RTP header) to within a few seconds.  With a typical 100
ticks/second clock, this represents about 10 bits of entropy at most (and potentially more like 2-3
bits)". The RTP timestamp has a random initial value, and typically ticks at either 8kHz or 90kHz. It's not
a wall clock. There's more entropy here than supposed.

Sorry, RTCP NTP timestamp.

-Ekr
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