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Miek Gieben | 24 Jul 2012 10:53
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nsec/nsec3 whitepaper as i-d

Dear colleagues,

Last year Matthijs Mekking and I wrote a white paper explaining authenticated
denial of existence in the DNS. See this URL:
https://www.sidn.nl/fileadmin/docs/PDF-files_UK/wp-2011-0x01-v2.pdf

Several people have since asked us if we could massage this into an i-d (and
eventually an RFC), so that it will get a wider exposure.

Is this something this (dormant) WG is willing to take up?

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Andrew Sullivan | 24 Jul 2012 14:44

Re: nsec/nsec3 whitepaper as i-d

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:53:04AM +0200, Miek Gieben wrote:
> Is this something this (dormant) WG is willing to take up?

No.  We're not "dormant", we're "shutting down".  Sorry.

With my hat off, I'm actually a little dubious about the premise
anyway.  What makes you think that an RFC will get wider exposure than
less-geeky modes of publication?

Best,
A

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Paul Hoffman | 24 Jul 2012 17:07

Re: nsec/nsec3 whitepaper as i-d

On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:53:04AM +0200, Miek Gieben wrote:
>> Is this something this (dormant) WG is willing to take up?
> 
> No.  We're not "dormant", we're "shutting down".  Sorry.
> 
> With my hat off, I'm actually a little dubious about the premise
> anyway.  What makes you think that an RFC will get wider exposure than
> less-geeky modes of publication?

I agree with Andrew about the "no" for the WG, but disagree with him about not publishing it as an
Internet-Draft and eventually as an RFC. This type of paper is exactly what the ISE stream of RFCs is for. It
expands knowledge on some interesting Internet technologies and is fairly well-written.

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Miek Gieben | 24 Jul 2012 22:17
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Re: nsec/nsec3 whitepaper as i-d

[ Quoting <paul.hoffman <at> vpnc.org> in "Re: [dnsext] nsec/nsec3 whitepaper ..." ]
> I agree with Andrew about the "no" for the WG, but disagree with him about not publishing it as an
Internet-Draft and eventually as an RFC. This type of paper is exactly what the ISE stream of RFCs is for. It
expands knowledge on some interesting Internet technologies and is fairly well-written.

An independent submission is probably the best way forward.

Thanks.

grtz Miek

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Miek Gieben | 1 Aug 2012 20:16
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Re: nsec/nsec3 whitepaper as i-d

[ Quoting <paul.hoffman <at> vpnc.org> in "Re: [dnsext] nsec/nsec3 whitepaper ..." ]
> I agree with Andrew about the "no" for the WG, but disagree with him about not publishing it as an
Internet-Draft and eventually as an RFC. 

I've just uploaded an i-d version of this whitepaper:

A new version of I-D, draft-gieben-auth-denial-of-existence-dns-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by R. (Miek) Gieben and posted to the
IETF repository.

Filename:        draft-gieben-auth-denial-of-existence-dns
Revision:        00
Title:           Authenticated Denial of Existence in the DNS
Creation date:   2012-08-01
WG ID:           Individual Submission
Number of pages: 21
URL:             http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gieben-auth-denial-of-existence-dns-00.txt
Status:          http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gieben-auth-denial-of-existence-dns
Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gieben-auth-denial-of-existence-dns-00

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