6 Mar 2012 14:37
11 Mar 2012 19:22
Re: Call for Agenda items
Pascal Urien <pascal.urien <at> gmail.com>
2012-03-11 18:22:31 GMT
2012-03-11 18:22:31 GMT
Hi All
I would like present the draft-urien-eap-smartcard-22.txt ( http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-urien-eap-smartcard-22 ) at the next EMU IETF meeting in Paris.
This draft, whose first version was issued in 2002, is an ISO7816 interface for EAP methods such as EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA and EAP-TLS. It has been validated/tested with many most secure microcontrollers supporting the javacard language and associated JVM (i.e. javacards). It comprises three sets of test vectors for EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA and EAP-TLS.
Recent smartphones (Android, RIM, … ) include Secure Elements, usually embedded in NFC controllers that are equipped with javacard JVM, and which are consequently compatible with this draft.
The tested EAP methods implementations need require less than 20KB of nonvolatile memory and 1KB of RAM, these features are compatible with the Secure Elements resources.
Regards
Pascal Urien
2012/3/6 Alan DeKok <aland <at> deployingradius.com>
Please submit requests for agenda items to the EMU chairs.
Alan DeKok.
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12 Mar 2012 01:07
Re: Call for Agenda items
Hao Zhou <hzhou <at> cisco.com>
2012-03-12 00:07:52 GMT
2012-03-12 00:07:52 GMT
I would like 30 mins of discussion on TEAP, http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tunnel-method-02.txt
2012/3/6 Alan DeKok <aland <at> deployingradius.com>Please submit requests for agenda items to the EMU chairs.
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13 Mar 2012 18:59
13 Mar 2012 23:11
Re: Call for Agenda items
Pascal Urien <pascal.urien <at> gmail.com>
2012-03-13 22:11:18 GMT
2012-03-13 22:11:18 GMT
Hi Sam
"EAP Support in Smartcard" targets an Informational RFC. The first version was released in 2002 and presented at the IETF 55th in Atlanta., last version (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-urien-eap-smartcard-22) was issued in January 2012.
Today many implementations (EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA , EAP-TLS) of this draft are working in Secure Elements, with or without NFC connectivity.
The goal of the presentation at the IETF 83 in Paris is to push this draft as an Informational RFC.
Regards
Pascal
2012/3/13 Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf <at> mit.edu>
Hi.
I'm confused.
I'd like to understand why you'd like to present this draft?
What response are you hoping for from the EMU working group?
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14 Mar 2012 16:00
Re: Call for Agenda items
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf <at> mit.edu>
2012-03-14 15:00:57 GMT
2012-03-14 15:00:57 GMT
>>>>> "Pascal" == Pascal Urien <pascal.urien <at> gmail.com> writes:
Pascal> The goal of the presentation at the IETF 83 in Paris is to
Pascal> push this draft as an Informational RFC.
Hi. I'm glad you want to publish this work as an RFC because I believe
it's valuable and I'd like to see it an archival form.
I'm supportive of efficiently publishing it as an RFC.
I remaind confused because I don't understand how presenting the draft
again to EMU will help that. Are you hoping that emu will adopt the
document and we'll publish an informational rfc through emu? If so, I'm
confused because I don't think that's in our charter.
If you're hoping for an informational RFC not through EMU (either
independent stream or IETF stream), how does the presentation help your
goal?
14 Mar 2012 22:25
Re: Call for Agenda items
Pascal Urien <pascal.urien <at> gmail.com>
2012-03-14 21:25:58 GMT
2012-03-14 21:25:58 GMT
Hi Sam
EMU meansEAP Method Update.
The EMU WG is the child of the EAP WG
The eap smartcard draft was presented several times to the EAP WG.
But the support of efficient implementation and its compatibility with smartphone OS, required more time than the EAP WG lifetime
Regards
Pascal
2012/3/14 Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf <at> mit.edu>
>>>>> "Pascal" == Pascal Urien <pascal.urien <at> gmail.com> writes:
Pascal> The goal of the presentation at the IETF 83 in Paris is to
Pascal> push this draft as an Informational RFC.
Hi. I'm glad you want to publish this work as an RFC because I believe
it's valuable and I'd like to see it an archival form.
I'm supportive of efficiently publishing it as an RFC.
I remaind confused because I don't understand how presenting the draft
again to EMU will help that. Are you hoping that emu will adopt the
document and we'll publish an informational rfc through emu? If so, I'm
confused because I don't think that's in our charter.
If you're hoping for an informational RFC not through EMU (either
independent stream or IETF stream), how does the presentation help your
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15 Mar 2012 01:34
Re: Call for Agenda items
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf <at> mit.edu>
2012-03-15 00:34:46 GMT
2012-03-15 00:34:46 GMT
>>>>> "Pascal" == Pascal Urien <pascal.urien <at> gmail.com> writes:
Pascal> Hi Sam EMU meansEAP Method Update.
Hi. Thanks for the clarification. It turns out I'm reasonably familiar
with the history of the EMU and EAP working groups.
I remain confused. If you are ready to publish your draft, why do you
need to present it to anyone? Based on my understanding of your
document, you can simply ask the RFC editor to publish your draft as an
informational document.
Doing that is almost certainly the most efficient process for getting
your document published.
Again, I think it would be a great idea to see this work published.
16 Mar 2012 20:24
Re: Call for Agenda items
Pascal Urien <pascal.urien <at> gmail.com>
2012-03-16 19:24:38 GMT
2012-03-16 19:24:38 GMT
Hi Sam,
Thank you for this support.
I am going to publish this draft as informational document
I will attend to this next EMU WG meeting in Paris
Regards
Pascal
2012/3/15 Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf <at> mit.edu>
Pascal> Hi Sam EMU meansEAP Method Update.
Hi. Thanks for the clarification. It turns out I'm reasonably familiar
with the history of the EMU and EAP working groups.
I remain confused. If you are ready to publish your draft, why do you
need to present it to anyone? Based on my understanding of your
document, you can simply ask the RFC editor to publish your draft as an
informational document.
Doing that is almost certainly the most efficient process for getting
your document published.
Again, I think it would be a great idea to see this work published.
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