Jari Arkko | 21 Jun 2006 22:41

IPOIB WG closing down

Folks,

IPOIB has completed what I consider its main work items. There are
some additional work items (MIBs) in the milestone plan, but after
reviewing the status and activity in the group, and discussing with
the chairs, we have concluded that its best to close the working
group rather than to try to complete the remaining items.

The group will be closed before Montreal. The mailing list will
remain, and may be needed, for instance, if there are AUTH48
issues in the last document that you have in the RFC Editor's
queue (currently pending IANA actions to complete).

Jari Arkko
Hal Rosenstock | 22 Jun 2006 11:06
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Hi,

Is there a way that any additional IPoIB MIB standardization at the IETF
occur if this is done ? I thought there was sufficient interest in at least
the SM MIB to complete that work.

Also, what is the status of IPoIB-CM ? Will this be moving forward within
the IETF process towards RFC ?

Thanks.

-- Hal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jari Arkko" <jari.arkko <at> piuha.net>
To: <ipoverib <at> ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 4:41 PM
Subject: [Ipoverib] IPOIB WG closing down

> Folks,
>
> IPOIB has completed what I consider its main work items. There are
> some additional work items (MIBs) in the milestone plan, but after
> reviewing the status and activity in the group, and discussing with
> the chairs, we have concluded that its best to close the working
> group rather than to try to complete the remaining items.
>
> The group will be closed before Montreal. The mailing list will
> remain, and may be needed, for instance, if there are AUTH48
> issues in the last document that you have in the RFC Editor's
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Jari Arkko | 22 Jun 2006 22:21

Re: IPOIB WG closing down

Hi Hal,

>Is there a way that any additional IPoIB MIB standardization at the IETF
>occur if this is done ? I thought there was sufficient interest in at least
>the SM MIB to complete that work.
>  
>
Well, as far as I understand all the MIB documents are currently
expired, and we are about four years behind the deadlines listed
in the charter.

It would be great of course if there was a pocket of energy somewhere
to complete the MIBs. Is there? In any case, even after WGs close the
ADs sometimes shepherd particular documents through the IESG.
I'd be willing to do that for an IB-related MIB, if someone completed
one.

>Also, what is the status of IPoIB-CM ? Will this be moving forward within
>the IETF process towards RFC ?
>  
>
It is approved, and currently in the RFC Editor's queue. Closing the group
down does not affect this document's progress towards an RFC.

--Jari
Hal Rosenstock | 23 Jun 2006 01:03
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Hi Jari,

Jari Arkko wrote:
> Hi Hal,
>
>> Is there a way that any additional IPoIB MIB standardization at the
>> IETF occur if this is done ? I thought there was sufficient interest
>> in at least the SM MIB to complete that work.
>>
>>
> Well, as far as I understand all the MIB documents are currently
> expired, and we are about four years behind the deadlines listed
> in the charter.
>
> It would be great of course if there was a pocket of energy somewhere
> to complete the MIBs. Is there?

I had made a start at dusting off the SM MIB. I believe completing this work
is important.
I also think there were others who expressed an interest in this particular
MIB.

> In any case, even after WGs close the
> ADs sometimes shepherd particular documents through the IESG.
> I'd be willing to do that for an IB-related MIB, if someone completed
> one.

That would be great. What would the process be ? How would comments be
solicited ?

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Jari Arkko | 3 Jul 2006 21:07

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Hal Rosenstock wrote:

>I had made a start at dusting off the SM MIB.
>
Great!

>>In any case, even after WGs close the
>>ADs sometimes shepherd particular documents through the IESG.
>>I'd be willing to do that for an IB-related MIB, if someone completed
>>one.
>>    
>>
>
>That would be great. What would the process be ? How would comments be
>solicited ?
>  
>
First you have to get your MIB technical and documentation work
completed. This probably means some hard work on your part, but
feel free to get others to help you, and use this mailing list to solicit
comments and reviews. I would suggest attempting to complete
one document first, and then seeing if there is interest for doing
some of the other ones.

At the time that you think you are ready, contact me and I will organize
a MIB doctor review, do my own AD review, and if both of these come
back as positive we are ready to go IETF Last Call and IESG review. The
IETF Last Call notice is posted to the IETF announce list and but can
copy it here just in case people missed it.

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Hal Rosenstock | 4 Jul 2006 15:15
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Hi Jari,

Jari Arkko wrote:
> Hal Rosenstock wrote:
>
>> I had made a start at dusting off the SM MIB.
>>
> Great!
>
>>> In any case, even after WGs close the
>>> ADs sometimes shepherd particular documents through the IESG.
>>> I'd be willing to do that for an IB-related MIB, if someone
>>> completed one.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That would be great. What would the process be ? How would comments
>> be solicited ?
>>
>>
> First you have to get your MIB technical and documentation work
> completed. This probably means some hard work on your part, but
> feel free to get others to help you, and use this mailing list to
> solicit comments and reviews. I would suggest attempting to complete
> one document first, and then seeing if there is interest for doing
> some of the other ones.

I've revised the TC and the IB interface MIBs and submitted them to the
editor
per recommendation from Bill. I am currently working on the SM MIB but it is
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Jari Arkko | 4 Jul 2006 19:36

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Hal Rosenstock wrote:

>I've revised the TC and the IB interface MIBs and submitted them to the
>editor
>per recommendation from Bill.
>
Great!

>I am currently working on the SM MIB but it is
>a much
>larger effort. I hope to have a version ready in the not too distant future.
>
>We can see if there is interest in any of the other ones which also expired.
>  
>
Ok.

--Jari
Eitan Zahavi | 23 Jun 2006 10:39
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Hi Jari, Hal,

I will also be interested in working on the SM MIB.

Eitan Zahavi
Senior Engineering Director, Software Architect
Mellanox Technologies LTD
Tel:+972-4-9097208
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Rosenstock [mailto:hnrose <at> earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:03 AM
> To: Jari Arkko
> Cc: ipoverib <at> ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Ipoverib] IPOIB WG closing down
> 
> Hi Jari,
> 
> Jari Arkko wrote:
> > Hi Hal,
> >
> >> Is there a way that any additional IPoIB MIB standardization at the
> >> IETF occur if this is done ? I thought there was sufficient
interest
> >> in at least the SM MIB to complete that work.
> >>
> >>
> > Well, as far as I understand all the MIB documents are currently
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Thomas Narten | 24 Jun 2006 12:47
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> I will also be interested in working on the SM MIB.

This is directed at this mailing list in general:

Rather than say "I'm interested in working on this", could folk please
Just Do It?

Talk is cheap, and lots of people always say something is important
and should get done. But it only gets done if people put in the time,
and in this WG, people haven't put in the cycles (on the MIB work in
particular).

Thomas
Vivek Kashyap | 22 Jun 2006 16:43
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Hi Hal,

The IPoIB-CM draft is in the RFC-editor queue already. See Jari's mail:

> The group will be closed before Montreal. The mailing list will
> remain, and may be needed, for instance, if there are AUTH48
> issues in the last document that you have in the RFC Editor's
> queue (currently pending IANA actions to complete).

thanks,
Vivek
--
Vivek Kashyap
Linux Technology Center, IBM
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To: "Jari Arkko" <jari.arkko <at> piuha.net>, <ipoverib <at> ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ipoverib] IPOIB WG closing down


Hi,

Is there a way that any additional IPoIB MIB standardization at the IETF
occur if this is done ? I thought there was sufficient interest in at least
the SM MIB to complete that work.

Also, what is the status of IPoIB-CM ? Will this be moving forward within
the IETF process towards RFC ?

Thanks.

-- Hal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jari Arkko" <jari.arkko <at> piuha.net>
To: <ipoverib <at> ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 4:41 PM
Subject: [Ipoverib] IPOIB WG closing down


> Folks,
>
> IPOIB has completed what I consider its main work items. There are
> some additional work items (MIBs) in the milestone plan, but after
> reviewing the status and activity in the group, and discussing with
> the chairs, we have concluded that its best to close the working
> group rather than to try to complete the remaining items.
>
> The group will be closed before Montreal. The mailing list will
> remain, and may be needed, for instance, if there are AUTH48
> issues in the last document that you have in the RFC Editor's
> queue (currently pending IANA actions to complete).
>
> Jari Arkko
>
>
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