Doug Ewell | 5 Sep 2004 09:50
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Re: revision of ISO 3166

Markus Kuhn <Markus dot Kuhn at cl dot cam dot ac dot uk> wrote:

> Section 5.2:
>
>   "The alpha-2 code uses combinations, in upper case, of two letters
>   of the 26-character Roman alphabet (ignoring diacritic signs) from
>   the range AA to ZZ."
>
> What ISO/CD 3166-1 calls the "Roman alphabet" is referred to in ISO
> 10646 as the "Latin script". Looks like the terminology ought to be
> sorted out here between the country code and the coded character set
> committees.

What ISO 10646 calls the "Latin script" comprises more than a thousand
letters.  Perhaps the 26-letter thing that is being referred to here
should be called "the modern English alphabet."  That's what it is,
really.

> [Side rant: I've never seen any application of the ISO 3166-1 alpha-3
> code.

I thought it was used on passports, which brought about the request to
change Romania's alpha-3 code from ROM to ROU, because Romanian citizens
supposedly didn't want their passports to identify them as Rom.
Supposedly.

> The International Olympic Committee (IOC) maintains another
> alpha-3 country code, which differs substantially from ISO 3166-1 and
> uses in some cases the same 3-letter code (e.g., ANT) for another
> country [http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/codes/country.htm]. Since
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Michael Everson | 5 Sep 2004 10:02
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Re: revision of ISO 3166

At 00:50 -0700 2004-09-05, Doug Ewell wrote:

>What ISO 10646 calls the "Latin script" comprises more than a thousand
>letters.  Perhaps the 26-letter thing that is being referred to here
>should be called "the modern English alphabet."  That's what it is,
>really.

The modern English alphabet is not limited to 26 
letters. Façade, naïve, and other words are all 
listed as the favoured spelling in many 
dictionaries.
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Doug Ewell | 5 Sep 2004 10:25
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Re: revision of ISO 3166

Michael Everson <everson at evertype dot com> wrote:

> The modern English alphabet is not limited to 26
> letters. Façade, naïve, and other words are all
> listed as the favoured spelling in many
> dictionaries.

Fair enough.  But there really needs to be an agreed-upon name for the
set of 26 letters from U+0041 through U+005A (plus lowercase
counterparts), which is so commonly encountered in computer
applications.

- "Latin script" isn't right; that comprises hundreds and hundreds of
letters.

- "Roman alphabet" isn't right; the Romans didn't use J or U or W.
(Please, don't anyone bother correcting this short list.  You get the
idea.)

- "English alphabet" isn't right either, as Michael points out.

So what is it?  The ASCII alphabet?  The Basic Latin alphabet?

-Doug Ewell
 Fullerton, California
 http://users.adelphia.net/~dewell/
Michael Everson | 5 Sep 2004 10:28
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Re: revision of ISO 3166

At 01:25 -0700 2004-09-05, Doug Ewell wrote:
>Michael Everson <everson at evertype dot com> wrote:
>
>>  The modern English alphabet is not limited to 26
>>  letters. Façade, naïve, and other words are all
>>  listed as the favoured spelling in many
>>  dictionaries.
>
>Fair enough.  But there really needs to be an agreed-upon name for the
>set of 26 letters from U+0041 through U+005A (plus lowercase
>counterparts), which is so commonly encountered in computer
>applications.

The Latin letters A through Z.
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