James Kempf | 3 Sep 2004 22:49

Candidate 2 for Draft 8 for CARD

I've edited draft-08 for CARD inserting a few suggested changes by Marco and
Ajoy. Candidate 2 is available at:

http://www.geocities.com/kempf42/draft-ietf-seamoby-card-protocol-08-cand2.txt

Please take a look. If I don't hear anything from anyone by next Fri., Sept.
10, I will send the draft to the IESG.

            jak
Rajeev Koodli | 4 Sep 2004 01:14
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Re: Candidate 2 for Draft 8 for CARD


Hi Jim,

I was going over the CARD protocol, mainly with the piggybacking of
CARD Options using the FMIPv6 proxy messages. For piggybacking
to work, the Type value for CARD Request and CARD Reply Must Not
collide with the "Option-Type" assignments in FMIPv6. Currently, there
are only 3 values assigned in FMIPv6.
The "Seamoby IANA Allocations" draft leaves CARD Request and Reply
with TBD9 and TBD10. I think we should request them to assign
9, 10 or some higher number like that. We do not need to co-ordinate the
Sub-options assignments.

Also, why not send a RtSolPr with the CARD Request Option and
Sub-options and see if the router replies, instead of using a probing
mechanism to discover "piggybacking". I know this is too late, but
a thought nevertheless.

Regards,

-Rajeev

James Kempf wrote:

> I've edited draft-08 for CARD inserting a few suggested changes by Marco and
> Ajoy. Candidate 2 is available at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/kempf42/draft-ietf-seamoby-card-protocol-08-cand2.txt
>
> Please take a look. If I don't hear anything from anyone by next Fri., Sept.
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James Kempf | 7 Sep 2004 19:30

Re: Candidate 2 for Draft 8 for CARD

Hi Rajeev,

> I was going over the CARD protocol, mainly with the piggybacking of
> CARD Options using the FMIPv6 proxy messages. For piggybacking
> to work, the Type value for CARD Request and CARD Reply Must Not
> collide with the "Option-Type" assignments in FMIPv6. Currently, there
> are only 3 values assigned in FMIPv6.
> The "Seamoby IANA Allocations" draft leaves CARD Request and Reply
> with TBD9 and TBD10. I think we should request them to assign
> 9, 10 or some higher number like that. We do not need to co-ordinate the
> Sub-options assignments.
>

Since the CARD ICMP options and the FMIP options are being assigned out of
the same ICMP option numbering space, there should be no need to request any
particular assignment from IANA. They will co-ordinate such that there is no
clash between the two. Off the top of my head, I can't think why any
particular numbers for CARD should be preferred to any others, but if
there's something I'm missing, we can send a special request to IANA for
particular numbers.

> Also, why not send a RtSolPr with the CARD Request Option and
> Sub-options and see if the router replies, instead of using a probing
> mechanism to discover "piggybacking". I know this is too late, but
> a thought nevertheless.
>

I'd prefer not to change the draft at this point. As of this weekend, we
have agreement from Alex Zinn to remove his Discuss and Allison is ready to
send it to the draft to the RFC Editor for publication as soon as we submit
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Rajeev Koodli | 8 Sep 2004 01:59
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Re: Candidate 2 for Draft 8 for CARD

James Kempf wrote:

>
> Since the CARD ICMP options and the FMIP options are being assigned out of
> the same ICMP option numbering space, there should be no need to request any
> particular assignment from IANA. They will co-ordinate such that there is no
> clash between the two. Off the top of my head, I can't think why any
> particular numbers for CARD should be preferred to any others, but if
> there's something I'm missing, we can send a special request to IANA for
> particular numbers.
>

I was not aware that IANA will take care of this. FMIPv6 defines a registry for

the options. I just want to make sure that piggybacking, fwiw, is still
possible.

-Rajeev

>
> > Also, why not send a RtSolPr with the CARD Request Option and
> > Sub-options and see if the router replies, instead of using a probing
> > mechanism to discover "piggybacking". I know this is too late, but
> > a thought nevertheless.
> >
>
> I'd prefer not to change the draft at this point. As of this weekend, we
> have agreement from Alex Zinn to remove his Discuss and Allison is ready to
> send it to the draft to the RFC Editor for publication as soon as we submit
> version 8.
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Marco Liebsch | 6 Sep 2004 11:52
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Re: Candidate 2 for Draft 8 for CARD

Hi Rajeev,

Rajeev Koodli wrote:

>Hi Jim,
>
>I was going over the CARD protocol, mainly with the piggybacking of
>CARD Options using the FMIPv6 proxy messages. For piggybacking
>to work, the Type value for CARD Request and CARD Reply Must Not
>collide with the "Option-Type" assignments in FMIPv6. Currently, there
>are only 3 values assigned in FMIPv6.
>The "Seamoby IANA Allocations" draft leaves CARD Request and Reply
>with TBD9 and TBD10. I think we should request them to assign
>9, 10 or some higher number like that. We do not need to co-ordinate the
>Sub-options assignments.
>  
>
I agree. We had this requirement in an earlier version of the CARD draft 
as part of the
IANA considerations section. Since these have been shortened for CTP and 
CARD and
incorporated into the consolidated Seamoby IANA allocations document, we 
should of
course keep mentioning this to avoid conflicts.

>Also, why not send a RtSolPr with the CARD Request Option and
>Sub-options and see if the router replies, instead of using a probing
>mechanism to discover "piggybacking". I know this is too late, but
>a thought nevertheless.
>
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