Secure Shell (secsh)

denis bider (Bitvise | 8 Nov 2011 04:59

Re: draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-02 for IETF 82 in Taipei ?

Thank you for bringing this up.

It would be nice if someone did pick it up, to make it final.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark D. Baushke" <mdb <at> juniper.net>
To: <ietf-ssh <at> NetBSD.org>
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 17:02
Subject: draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-02 for IETF 82 in Taipei ?

Is anyone going to present the draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-02 (-03?)
to the IETF 82 in Taipei Taiwa Nov 13-18 as a standards or informational
track RFC?

Given multiple implementations (e.g., OpenSSH 5.9, TTSH 2.58,
WinSSHD) supporting SSH2 MAC algorithms: hmac-sha2-256,
hmac-sha2-256-96, hmac-sha2-512, hmac-sha2-512-96 exist, it would seem
at least an informational RFC is desirable.

-- Mark

headers

Mark D. Baushke | 8 Nov 2011 05:43

Re: draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-02 for IETF 82 in Taipei ?

Hi Denis,

My understanding is that it is possible to do this all via e-mail rather
than f2f at the IETF 82 meeting...

Reading http://www.ietf.org/tao.html ...

seems to indicate that petitioning the Security Area Advisory Group
(SAAG) could be asked to look at the ietf-ssh mail archives and bring it
up for consideration/arguments on the IETF 82 agenda.

I think you need to re-issue your draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-02 draft
as draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-03 to have one which is not expired
send a notcie to both ietf-ssh <at> NetBSD.org and saag <at> ietf.org with a
subject like:

  draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-03 submission for Draft Standard

A cover email letter pointing at multiple interoperable implementations
means that folks get to argue about the names or the spec a bit, but I
think it is ready to go as-is...

	-- Mark

 ------- original message -------
From: "denis bider \(Bitvise\)" <ietf-ssh2 <at> denisbider.com>
To: <ietf-ssh <at> NetBSD.org>, "Mark D. Baushke" <mdb <at> juniper.net>
Subject: Re: draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-02 for IETF 82 in Taipei ?
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:59:04 -0600
X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197

(Continue reading)

headers

t.petch | 8 Nov 2011 11:50

Re: draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-02 for IETF 82 in Taipei ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark D. Baushke" <mdb <at> juniper.net>
To: "denis bider (Bitvise)" <ietf-ssh2 <at> denisbider.com>
Cc: <ietf-ssh <at> NetBSD.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:43 AM

> Hi Denis,

> My understanding is that it is possible to do this all via e-mail rather
> than f2f at the IETF 82 meeting...
>
> Reading http://www.ietf.org/tao.html ...
>
> seems to indicate that petitioning the Security Area Advisory Group
> (SAAG) could be asked to look at the ietf-ssh mail archives and bring it
> up for consideration/arguments on the IETF 82 agenda.
>
> I think you need to re-issue your draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-02 draft
> as draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-03 to have one which is not expired
> send a notcie to both ietf-ssh <at> NetBSD.org and saag <at> ietf.org with a
> subject like:
>
>   draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-03 submission for Draft Standard

Errr ... no more

RFC6410 abolished Draft Standard, we now have Proposed Standard and Internet
Standard.

You still need the active support of an AD to push things through (not that

(Continue reading)