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Alexa Morris | 2 Oct 07:25

Re: Mailing List Filters

Lars,

It's very simple for us to note your email address as an exception to this
rule, and we have done so now. In fact, because we realized that this might
be an issue for some community members, we created a form for people to let
us know if they had difficulty sending email, see here:
http://www.ietf.org/contactform.html (this is accessible from the
Secretariat contact area of the website)

Hopefully your problem should be resolved, but please let me know if you
experience any further difficulties.

Regards,
Alexa

On 10/1/08 1:28 PM, "Lars Eggert" <lars.eggert <at> nokia.com> wrote:

> On 2008-6-5, at 18:03, ext Alexa Morris wrote:
>> If you are curious to know what spam rules we are reinstating on Monday,
>> they are:
> ...
>> Rule B. This rule does a reverse lookup on the client's IP address, and
>> makes sure that we can identify it as being IN-REV'ed by someone.
> 
> FYI, this rule B has just bit me, because I don't have access to the
> reverse DNS zone of my IPv6 block, and I turned on IPv6 for sendmail.
> Is there some way around this?
> 
> (CC'ing the tools folks, because I think someone has hit the same
> issue recently.)

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Stephane Bortzmeyer | 2 Oct 10:43

Re: Mailing List Filters

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:25:07PM -0700,
 Alexa Morris <amorris <at> amsl.com> wrote 
 a message of 131 lines which said:

> It's very simple for us to note your email address as an exception to this
> rule, and we have done so now.

Great for Lars but this is not the point. The point is that IETF mail
servers are blocking SMTP servers on a very bad basis, with a test
that most IETFers regard as meaningless and which is not sanctioned by
any RFC.

See
<http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dnsop-reverse-mapping-considerations> 
for more information.

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Alexa Morris | 3 Oct 18:18

Re: Mailing List Filters

Stephane,

Several months ago we presented the IETF leadership with various options for
how to configure the mail server settings in order to most effectively
minimize the amount of spam that moderators had to deal with, while still
being as flexible as possible for the community. We then implemented the
option that was selected. However, it's extremely difficult, if not
impossible, to achieve a balance that pleases everyone.

That said, we are always happy to make changes to the server configurations
if directed to do so by the leadership.

Alexa

On 10/2/08 1:43 AM, "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer <at> nic.fr> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:25:07PM -0700,
>  Alexa Morris <amorris <at> amsl.com> wrote
>  a message of 131 lines which said:
> 
>> It's very simple for us to note your email address as an exception to this
>> rule, and we have done so now.
> 
> Great for Lars but this is not the point. The point is that IETF mail
> servers are blocking SMTP servers on a very bad basis, with a test
> that most IETFers regard as meaningless and which is not sanctioned by
> any RFC.
> 
> See
> <http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dnsop-reverse-mapping-considerations>

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Pekka Savola | 19 Dec 13:04

Re: Mailing List Filters

FWIW, I got bit by this as well, and got added to the exception list, 
but because this isn't a generic solution, this should really be fixed 
for real.

In my case, I *do* have equivalent IPv6 AAAA and PTR records, but 
maybe the problem is that the hostname advertised in SMTP EHLO/HELO 
exchange does not match the one in reverse DNS.

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, Alexa Morris wrote:
> Several months ago we presented the IETF leadership with various options for
> how to configure the mail server settings in order to most effectively
> minimize the amount of spam that moderators had to deal with, while still
> being as flexible as possible for the community. We then implemented the
> option that was selected. However, it's extremely difficult, if not
> impossible, to achieve a balance that pleases everyone.
>
> That said, we are always happy to make changes to the server configurations
> if directed to do so by the leadership.
>
> Alexa
>
> On 10/2/08 1:43 AM, "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer <at> nic.fr> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:25:07PM -0700,
>>  Alexa Morris <amorris <at> amsl.com> wrote
>>  a message of 131 lines which said:
>>
>>> It's very simple for us to note your email address as an exception to this
>>> rule, and we have done so now.
>>

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