Ian Batten | 31 May 2012 17:25

Data collection in government

Does any know what the source is for the logged copies of all the text messages between Jeremy Hunt and
assorted members of his circle?  Is the government logging all text messages from ministers, Spads and so on?

ian

Peter Tomlinson | 31 May 2012 18:45
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Re: Data collection in government

In railway circles, a SPAD is a Signal Passed At Danger.

Peter

On 31/05/2012 16:25, Ian Batten wrote:
> Does any know what the source is for the logged copies of all the text messages between Jeremy Hunt and
assorted members of his circle?  Is the government logging all text messages from ministers, Spads and so on?
>
> ian

Peter Mitchell | 31 May 2012 17:41

Re: Data collection in government

Ian Batten wrote:
> Does any know what the source is for the logged copies of all the
> text messages between Jeremy Hunt and assorted members of his circle?
> Is the government logging all text messages from ministers, Spads and
> so on?

Judging by reports of (unrelated) trials, all SMS messages seem to be retained for long enough to be
retrievable by the authorities. I presume they are kept by the phone company and disclosed on production
of a court order. 

Brian Morrison | 31 May 2012 19:51
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Re: Data collection in government

On Thu, 31 May 2012 16:25:37 +0100
Ian Batten <igb@...> wrote:

> Does any know what the source is for the logged copies of all the
> text messages between Jeremy Hunt and assorted members of his
> circle?  Is the government logging all text messages from ministers,
> Spads and so on?

Presumably they are logged by the CSP, in this case the mobile network
providing JH with his mobile services. Pretty sure all UK networks
store and record a myriad of data about each SIM's activities.

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Brian Morrison

Tony Naggs | 1 Jun 2012 12:39

Re: Data collection in government

There are companies offering tools & services for managing corporate mobile phones, logging such things as phone calls & text messages.

These records can then be used as input for billing (e.g. for technical, legal or medical advice) or retained for compliance purposes, e.g. logging a stock trader's contacts with clients.


On 31 May 2012 16:25, Ian Batten <igb <at> batten.eu.org> wrote:
Does any know what the source is for the logged copies of all the text messages between Jeremy Hunt and assorted members of his circle?  Is the government logging all text messages from ministers, Spads and so on?

ian



John Wilson | 1 Jun 2012 18:44
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Apparently the texts were still on Hunt's phone
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/01/jeremy-hunt-texts-leveson

John Wilson

Chris Edwards | 6 Jun 2012 17:32

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On Thu, 31 May 2012, Ian Batten wrote:

> Does any know what the source is for the logged copies of all the text 
> messages between Jeremy Hunt and assorted members of his circle? 

Sort-of related:

 http://amberhawk.typepad.com/amberhawk/2012/06/do-all-conservative-ministers-use-personal-emails-and-texts-to-avoid-foia.html


Gmane