Steve McIntyre | 30 Sep 01:04
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Bits from the DPL

Hey folks,

At the risk of sounding like a broken record here, apologies for
taking so long to write this. It's been a few too many weeks since I
wrote my last summary. In the last couple of months, I was ill for 3
weeks (as you may have seen from my blog post[1]) and otherwise very
busy. I've been struggling to catch up with everything, but I think
I'm just about there.

So, what's up?

Debconf!
--------
Debconf 8 [2] has been and gone. We had an excellent time in Mar del
Plata, with the usual mix of great technical talks and lots of
socialising. The local orga team put in a huge amount of work to make
the conference happen, and they did astoundingly well. I'm sure there
are places where they'd disagree (*grin*), but as far as I and other
attendees could see everything ran smoothly. Woo!

Due to the typically long travel distance to Argentina (and,
therefore, the high cost of travel), unfortunately many of our
developers could not make the trip this year. However, the video team
did an amazing job this year [3] - a combination of live streams of
all the talks plus volunteers forwarding questions from IRC meant that
people could stay involved despite the distance.

For those of us that did make it down to Argentina, it was great to be
able to meet up with friends old and new, and to have some very useful
technical discussions. As ever, people came away re-invigorated and
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Praveen A | 30 Sep 03:36

Fwd: Bits from the DPL

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Steve McIntyre <leader <at> debian.org>
Date: 2008/9/29
Subject: Bits from the DPL
To: debian-devel-announce <at> lists.debian.org

Hey folks,

At the risk of sounding like a broken record here, apologies for
taking so long to write this. It's been a few too many weeks since I
wrote my last summary. In the last couple of months, I was ill for 3
weeks (as you may have seen from my blog post[1]) and otherwise very
busy. I've been struggling to catch up with everything, but I think
I'm just about there.

So, what's up?

Debconf!
--------
Debconf 8 [2] has been and gone. We had an excellent time in Mar del
Plata, with the usual mix of great technical talks and lots of
socialising. The local orga team put in a huge amount of work to make
the conference happen, and they did astoundingly well. I'm sure there
are places where they'd disagree (*grin*), but as far as I and other
attendees could see everything ran smoothly. Woo!

Due to the typically long travel distance to Argentina (and,
therefore, the high cost of travel), unfortunately many of our
developers could not make the trip this year. However, the video team
did an amazing job this year [3] - a combination of live streams of
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Keith Edmunds | 4 Oct 13:38

Re: Bits from the DPL

Hi Steve

> the more installation and upgrade testing we can do now, the
> better.

I'm really sorry to trouble you directly as I'm sure you have better
things to do than reply to mails such as this; however, I'd like to help
test the Etch -> Lenny upgrade, but I can't find the Lenny release notes
(particularly the upgrade part) anywhere. I've tried Google, I've tried
the debian.org site.

Could you tell me where they are and, possibly, make it a little easier
for others to find them (maybe put a link on the Lenny .iso download page)?

Thanks,
Keith

The Fungi | 4 Oct 15:09

Re: Bits from the DPL

On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 12:38:35PM +0100, Keith Edmunds wrote:
[...]
> I can't find the Lenny release notes (particularly the upgrade
> part) anywhere. [...] Could you tell me where they are
[...]

For now, it looks like you can at least browse DocBook sources for
it on svn.debian.org:

http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/ddp/manuals/branches/release-notes/lenny/en/

I have no idea how complete it is yet (nor how complete the 21 other
translations there are, if you weren't seeking an English-language
copy).

For the record, I located this from reading the "New In Lenny" wiki:

http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny

Hope that helps!
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Charles Plessy | 4 Oct 17:06
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Re: Bits from the DPL

Le Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 12:38:35PM +0100, Keith Edmunds a écrit :
> 
> I'm really sorry to trouble you directly as I'm sure you have better
> things to do than reply to mails such as this; however, I'd like to help
> test the Etch -> Lenny upgrade, but I can't find the Lenny release notes
> (particularly the upgrade part) anywhere. I've tried Google, I've tried
> the debian.org site.

Dear Keith,

Lenny is not yet the stable release of Debian. Everything you are
looking for will be available when Lenny will replace Etch.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,

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Julien Cristau | 4 Oct 17:28
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Re: Bits from the DPL

On Sun, Oct  5, 2008 at 00:06:19 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:

> Lenny is not yet the stable release of Debian. Everything you are
> looking for will be available when Lenny will replace Etch.
> 
It'll be too late for upgrade testing then…  People doing that need
preliminary release notes now.

Cheers,
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Charles Plessy | 5 Oct 01:29
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Release notes

Sorry Keith and all others for the noise, I'll try to not read my mails
when I am tired next time.

The release notes have a pseudo-packages. You can browse some of its
issues on our bug tracking system, or contact directly its maintainer
for your very good question. Lastly, it seems that its sources are
availables on cvs.debian.org, so you can monitor the changes there as
well (if it is the correct repository).

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=release-notes
http://lists.debian.org/debian-doc/
http://cvs.debian.org/ddp/manuals.sgml/release-notes/?root=debian-doc

Have a nice day, and thank you very much for your help,

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Raphael Hertzog | 5 Oct 15:48
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Re: Release notes

On Sun, 05 Oct 2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
> http://cvs.debian.org/ddp/manuals.sgml/release-notes/?root=debian-doc

This link is wrong. DDP uses SVN nowadays.

Cheers,
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Cyril Brulebois | 5 Oct 15:53
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Re: Release notes

Raphael Hertzog <hertzog <at> debian.org> (05/10/2008):
> > http://cvs.debian.org/ddp/manuals.sgml/release-notes/?root=debian-doc
> 
> This link is wrong. DDP uses SVN nowadays.

Question is: why is that still available? I assume CVS to SVN conversion
kept history. And if it didn't, that site might get a BFW on top and on
bottom to warn that it doesn't hold the current trunk, don't you think?

Mraw,
KiBi.
Peter Palfrader | 6 Oct 12:47
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Re: Release notes

On Sun, 05 Oct 2008, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

> Raphael Hertzog <hertzog <at> debian.org> (05/10/2008):
> > > http://cvs.debian.org/ddp/manuals.sgml/release-notes/?root=debian-doc
> > 
> > This link is wrong. DDP uses SVN nowadays.
> 
> Question is: why is that still available?

Probably because nobody bothers to tell DSA when services are no longer
required.
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Raphael Hertzog | 7 Oct 09:34
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Re: Release notes

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> 
> > Raphael Hertzog <hertzog <at> debian.org> (05/10/2008):
> > > > http://cvs.debian.org/ddp/manuals.sgml/release-notes/?root=debian-doc
> > > 
> > > This link is wrong. DDP uses SVN nowadays.
> > 
> > Question is: why is that still available?
> 
> Probably because nobody bothers to tell DSA when services are no longer
> required.

There are still 2 users of cvs.debian.org (webwml, dak/srcdep), otherwise
I would have requested it to go away.

https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=146

But you can disable all the other modules in the web interface at least
and remove write rights in all other repositories.

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Peter Palfrader | 7 Oct 13:40
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Re: Release notes

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> > > Question is: why is that still available?
> > Probably because nobody bothers to tell DSA when services are no longer
> > required.
> 
> There are still 2 users of cvs.debian.org (webwml, dak/srcdep), otherwise
> I would have requested it to go away.
> 
> https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=146
> 
> But you can disable all the other modules in the web interface at least
> and remove write rights in all other repositories.

I need information where debbugs, debian-openoffice, debian-doc, deity,
and tetex moved to, similar to what is available from the READMEs in
/srv/cvs.debian.org/cvs/qa.  Can you provide that?
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Don Armstrong | 7 Oct 16:53
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Re: Release notes

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> I need information where debbugs,

http://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/

> moved to, similar to what is available from the READMEs in
> /srv/cvs.debian.org/cvs/qa. Can you provide that?

Sorry for not telling anyone about that.

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Raphael Hertzog | 8 Oct 10:08
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Re: Release notes

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> I need information where 
> debbugs

Don responded, it moved to bzr: http://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Debbugs

> debian-openoffice

$ apt-cache showsrc openoffice.org | grep Vcs
Vcs-Bzr: http://bzr.debian.org/pkg-openoffice/packages/openofficeorg/2.4.1/unstable
Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.gnome.org/svn/ooo-build/branches/debian-2-4-1

> debian-doc

Badly named webpage (http://www.debian.org/doc/cvs) is up-to-date and
gives: svn://svn.debian.org/ddp/manuals/trunk
http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/ddp/

> deity,

$ apt-cache showsrc apt | grep Vcs
Vcs-Bzr: http://bzr.debian.org/apt/debian-sid/

> and tetex 

tetex is gone replaced by texlive:
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/TeXTaskForce

They don't use Vcs-* fields apparently but they use svn:
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Peter Palfrader | 25 Oct 16:14
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obsolete CVS repositories (was: Release notes)

(Re obsolete cvs repositories on gluck aka cvs.d.o)
(if you got BCCed, congratulations, you are in one of the affected cvs groups.)

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

[debbugs]
> Don responded, it moved to bzr: http://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/
> http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Debbugs
moved.

> > debian-openoffice
> 
> $ apt-cache showsrc openoffice.org | grep Vcs
> Vcs-Bzr: http://bzr.debian.org/pkg-openoffice/packages/openofficeorg/2.4.1/unstable
> Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.gnome.org/svn/ooo-build/branches/debian-2-4-1

Moved to -obsolete.

> > debian-doc
> 
> Badly named webpage (http://www.debian.org/doc/cvs) is up-to-date and
> gives: svn://svn.debian.org/ddp/manuals/trunk
> http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/ddp/

Done.

> > deity,
> 
> $ apt-cache showsrc apt | grep Vcs
> Vcs-Bzr: http://bzr.debian.org/apt/debian-sid/
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Guillem Jover | 26 Oct 02:29
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Re: obsolete CVS repositories (was: Release notes)

Hi,

Could you also update dak's README to point to:

  <http://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git>

instead of the obsolete bzr repo?

thanks,
guillem

Peter Palfrader | 26 Oct 10:27
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Re: obsolete CVS repositories (was: Release notes)

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Guillem Jover wrote:

> Could you also update dak's README to point to:
> 
>   <http://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git>
> 
> instead of the obsolete bzr repo?
> 
Last time I asked it was still in use for the arch specific package
list.  I could probably add a README, but moving it to obsolete and
making it a-w not so much.

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Guillem Jover | 26 Oct 11:41
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Re: obsolete CVS repositories (was: Release notes)

On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 10:27:20 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Guillem Jover wrote:
> 
> > Could you also update dak's README to point to:
> > 
> >   <http://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git>
> > 
> > instead of the obsolete bzr repo?

> Last time I asked it was still in use for the arch specific package
> list.  I could probably add a README, but moving it to obsolete and
> making it a-w not so much.

Right, but there's already a README file stating exactly that, except
that it points to the obsolete bzr repo instead of the git one.

regards,
guillem

Peter Palfrader | 26 Oct 11:48
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Re: obsolete CVS repositories (was: Release notes)

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Guillem Jover wrote:

> On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 10:27:20 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > 
> > > Could you also update dak's README to point to:
> > > 
> > >   <http://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git>
> > > 
> > > instead of the obsolete bzr repo?
> 
> > Last time I asked it was still in use for the arch specific package
> > list.  I could probably add a README, but moving it to obsolete and
> > making it a-w not so much.
> 
> Right, but there's already a README file stating exactly that, except
> that it points to the obsolete bzr repo instead of the git one.

Yup, saw that and in fact updated it before you replied :)

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