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Didier Raboud | 5 Aug 2012 15:37
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Bug#683928: Please include http.debian.net as Type: GeoDNS (?) in Mirrors.masterlist

Package: mirrors
Severity: normal
Tags: d-i

Hi dear Debian Mirrors Team,

I would like you to consider including http.debian.net as "GeoDNS"
mirror in Mirrors.masterlist. This would allow getting http.debian.net
selected as default mirror in debian-installer (choose-mirror).

The entry would probably be:

  Site: http.debian.net
  Type: GeoDNS
  Archive-architecture: amd64 armel armhf hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel
powerpc s390 s390x sparc
  Airchive-http: /debian/
  Backports-http: /debian-backports/
  Old-http: /debian-archive/
  Archive-upstream: ftp-master.debian.org
  IPv6: yes
  Maintainer: Raphael Geissert <rgeissert <at> debian.org>
  Comment: HTTP redirector that uses the geo and network location of the
   user and the mirrors, the architecture of the requested files, IP
   address family, the availability and freshness of the mirrors, and a
   few other things. Details: http://http.debian.net

The list of open questions is at least:

a) Type: GeoDNS - Does it really make sense ?
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Cyril Brulebois | 5 Aug 2012 15:57
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Bug#683928: Please include http.debian.net as Type: GeoDNS (?) in Mirrors.masterlist

Didier Raboud <odyx <at> debian.org> (05/08/2012):
> The list of open questions is at least:
> 
> a) Type: GeoDNS - Does it really make sense ?
> b) Impact of this change on choose-mirror ? Does it really make
>    http.debian.net appear first ?
> c) Impact of this change on http.debian.net ? (risk of creating HTTP
>    redirection loops ?)
> d) Consensus (within the mirrors team, within -boot) that http.d.n is
>    superior to cdn.d.n ?
> e) status of the integration of http.d.n to http.d.o ?

e) looks like a particularly interesting question to me.

Mraw,
KiBi.
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Joey Hess | 5 Aug 2012 17:50
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Bug#683928: Please include http.debian.net as Type: GeoDNS (?) in Mirrors.masterlist

Didier Raboud wrote:
> b) Impact of this change on choose-mirror ? Does it really make
>    http.debian.net appear first ?

No; choose-mirror lists either push-primary mirrors in a country,
or for countries with none, leaf mirrors in the country, before
geodns mirrors.

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Didier 'OdyX' Raboud | 5 Aug 2012 18:19
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Bug#683928: Please include http.debian.net as Type: GeoDNS (?) in Mirrors.masterlist

Le dimanche, 5 août 2012 17.50:42, Joey Hess a écrit :
> Didier Raboud wrote:
> > b) Impact of this change on choose-mirror ? Does it really make
> > 
> >    http.debian.net appear first ?
> 
> No; choose-mirror lists either push-primary mirrors in a country,
> or for countries with none, leaf mirrors in the country, before
> geodns mirrors.

I noticed that from choose-mirror history. Then I assume it would be possible 
to implement a new "Type: Redirector" that would get sorted first, right?

Cheers,

OdyX
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Christian PERRIER | 5 Aug 2012 18:26
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Bug#683928: Please include http.debian.net as Type: GeoDNS (?) in Mirrors.masterlist

Quoting Didier Raboud (odyx <at> debian.org):

> a) Type: GeoDNS - Does it really make sense ?
> b) Impact of this change on choose-mirror ? Does it really make
>    http.debian.net appear first ?

IIRC, it should but it first needs Mirrors.masterlist to be changed.
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Raphael Geissert | 6 Aug 2012 22:16
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Bug#683928: Please include http.debian.net as Type: GeoDNS (?) in Mirrors.masterlist

Hi,

On Sunday 05 August 2012 08:37:46 Didier Raboud wrote:
> a) Type: GeoDNS - Does it really make sense ?

AFAIK this type is hardcoded in several places.

> c) Impact of this change on http.debian.net ? (risk of creating HTTP
>    redirection loops ?)

There's no risk, because: 1) GeoDNS entries are ignored by http.d.n, and 2) 
it would fail to obtain the site trace (no mirror has a 
project/trace/http.debian.net) and as such it would not be enabled.

> e) status of the integration of http.d.n to http.d.o ?

At least one member of the DSA team mentioned that switching away from 
mod_perl would make it easier to move it to DSA hw. Nothing has been 
discussed about moving it to d.o, however.

Cheers,
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