Hello. Checkout this website, it looks like they steal Debian logotype. http://www.pure-organic-baby-food.co.uk/
su, 2008-10-26 kello 09:24 +0200, Kadath kirjoitti: > Hello. > > Checkout this website, it looks like they steal Debian logotype. > http://www.pure-organic-baby-food.co.uk/ It's not an exact copy of the Debian logo, and Debian does not have a monopoly on swirls. Thus, I think it is not a problem.
Lars Wirzenius <liw <at> liw.fi> writes: > su, 2008-10-26 kello 09:24 +0200, Kadath kirjoitti: > > Checkout this website, it looks like they steal Debian logotype. > > http://www.pure-organic-baby-food.co.uk/ > > It's not an exact copy of the Debian logo I agree that it doesn't look like a derivative work as understood by copyright law. So, I would rule out concerns of copyright violation. > and Debian does not have a monopoly on swirls. Thus, I think it is > not a problem. For this, though, the relevant field is not copyright; it's trademark. Debian does, IIRC, have a trademark monopoly on the Debian logos; but I can't find reference to that, so I may be wrong. I'll continue on the assumption that they *are* trademarks held by SPI. A trademark is infringed when: * a “confusingly similar” mark is used, * in relation to products/services similar to those covered by the trademark. To my eye, the mark is certainly very similar to the Debian “open use” logo, and confusingly so. However, the products don't seem to have anything to do with (what I imagine to be) those covered by the Debian(Continue reading)
"BF" == Ben Finney <ben+debian <at> benfinney.id.au>
BF> For this, though, the relevant field is not copyright; it's
BF> trademark.
BF> Debian does, IIRC, have a trademark monopoly on the Debian
BF> logos; but I can't find reference to that, so I may be
BF> wrong. I'll continue on the assumption that they *are*
BF> trademarks held by SPI.
No, we don't.
We have a trademark on the word ``Debian''. We do not have a trademark
on the swirl logo or any other logotype.
Claire
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 04:46:08PM -0700, C.M. Connelly wrote: > "BF" == Ben Finney <ben+debian <at> benfinney.id.au> > > BF> For this, though, the relevant field is not copyright; it's > BF> trademark. > > BF> Debian does, IIRC, have a trademark monopoly on the Debian > BF> logos; but I can't find reference to that, so I may be > BF> wrong. I'll continue on the assumption that they *are* > BF> trademarks held by SPI. > > No, we don't. > > We have a trademark on the word ``Debian''. We do not have a trademark > on the swirl logo or any other logotype. > Just for avoidance of doubt, we have the word 'Debian' as a *registered* trademark, but not the logos. We do hold unregistered trademark on these. Neil -- -- <jmtd> irssiproxy appears to be crack cut with washing up powder
Hello Richard, Richard Meredith wrote: >We have sent an email into Debian and kandath earlier today as I'm >unsure how to reply to Kandath's initial post on the matter, hopefully >the mailing list will can post our comments on our behalf. Your message has indeed reached the list. >We take copyright very seriously at Twist Systems, so have thoroughly gone >through >all of the original inspirational files for this project to make sure that >no theft >has occurred. What is evident is our clients logo development was never >influenced >Fully or Partly by the Debian logo, this is the first time we have been >made aware >of it's existence. This is not surprising. Others have also created similar logos in the past completely independently. at least one such independeantly developed logo was nearly identical to the Debian logo. It happens. >We have all of the original files that were used to develop the logo's >creation if they >were ever needed to be called upon for clarification. That is a good thing to have. In this case there is almostly certainly no need to provide any further evidence. The Logo is definately not an exact duplicate, and it is being used for a very different market. As long as your client does not try to enter the computer or computer software markets, there is no real chance of customer confusion. I find it very unlikely that Pure Organic Baby Food Limited will be switching from the baby food market to the computer or software markets in the near future, so there is no issue. Joe Smith
Hello Richard,
Richard Meredith wrote:We have sent an email into Debian and kandath earlier today as I'm
unsure how to reply to Kandath's initial post on the matter, hopefully
the mailing list will can post our comments on our behalf.
Your message has indeed reached the list.
We take copyright very seriously at Twist Systems, so have thoroughly gone through
all of the original inspirational files for this project to make sure that no theft
has occurred. What is evident is our clients logo development was never influenced
Fully or Partly by the Debian logo, this is the first time we have been made aware
of it's existence.
This is not surprising. Others have also created similar logos in the past completely independently.
at least one such independeantly developed logo was nearly identical to the Debian logo. It happens.
We have all of the original files that were used to develop the logo's creation if they
were ever needed to be called upon for clarification.
That is a good thing to have. In this case there is almostly certainly no need to provide
any further evidence. The Logo is definately not an exact duplicate, and it is being used
for a very different market. As long as your client does not try to enter the computer or
computer software markets, there is no real chance of customer confusion. I find it very
unlikely that Pure Organic Baby Food Limited will be switching from the baby food market
to the computer or software markets in the near future, so there is no issue.
Joe Smith
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