can you please remove my post from 2001? Thank you, Ondrej Krehel http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2001/02/msg00149.html
[Original poster BCC'ed] Le Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 11:10:29AM -0400, Ondro a écrit : > can you please remove my post from 2001? Dear Ondro, It is our policy to not remove messages after they have been willingfully posted by their authors. The message you point, which was not sent by you, is acceptable according to our code of conduct and will not be removed either. I hope that you understand our choice. Removal would anyway be uneffective as independant third parties have their own archives of our mailing lists. Lastly, although this advice comes too late, to avoid increasing the page rank of your archived message in search engines you can refer to it through its message ID. Best regards, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST <at> lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster <at> lists.debian.org
Le Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 10:05:52AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > Lastly, although this advice comes too late, to avoid increasing the page rank > of your archived message in search engines you can refer to it through its > message ID. Hi all, following our previous disucssion about post removals, if a FAQ is written (I can help, but where should we put it?), I suggest to add the above recommendation. In the case I answered I suppose that the reason for removal request was that this discussion appears very high in a Google search made on the name of the poster. Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-REQUEST <at> lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster <at> lists.debian.org
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 10:10:38AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > following our previous disucssion about post removals, if a FAQ is written (I > can help, but where should we put it?), I suggest to add the above > recommendation. In the case I answered I suppose that the reason for removal > request was that this discussion appears very high in a Google search made on > the name of the poster. I would put it under MailingLists and have a link to it off the lists.d.o page. Also, I think an example of what you mean by the message ID would be handy, so everyone knows what you mean. e.g. You will find the Message ID for your email in the list archives. For example, if your email was http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2008/msg00004.html you can see by looking at the lines below the title of the email but above the general body that its message id is <20081023220125.GA10384 <at> schmehl.info> That way everyone knows its "that thing" and not some other thing. Choosing are relatively innocent email like from from Debian announce is a good idea too. - Craig -- -- Craig Small GnuPG:1C1B D893 1418 2AF4 45EE 95CB C76C E5AC 12CA DFA5 http://www.enc.com.au/ csmall at : enc.com.au http://www.debian.org/ Debian GNU/Linux, software should be Free(Continue reading)
Le Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 01:35:15PM +1100, Craig Small a écrit : > I would put it under MailingLists and have a link to it off the > lists.d.o page. Hi all, How about this? <toc-add-entry name="removal">Requests for removal of messages in our archive</toc-add-entry> <p>It is our policy to not remove messages after they have been willfully posted by their authors. Please note that by sending a request on our public mailing lists you might increase the attention of spammers and search engines on the addresses and contents you request for deletion. We recommend to refer messages by their <q>Message-id</q>, which is displayed between the message and its title in our archives. For instance, the message ID of the email announcing the <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2007/msg00002.html>"release of Etch</a> is <q>20070408131536.GE2859 <at> schmehl.info</q>. Our archive can be <a href="http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/">searched by Message-ID</a>.</p> <p>When answering publicly to a request for removal that did not follow this advice, you can also minimize the inconvenience for the requester by avoiding to quote URLs and use Message-IDs instead. In addition, you can reduce the occurrence of the requester's email address in our archive by using the blind carbon-copy (BCC) function in you mailer, and noticing the other list members by a small header like <q>[John Doe was BCC'd]</q>.</p> Have a nice day,(Continue reading)
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 03:10:29PM +0000, Ondro wrote: > can you please remove my post from 2001? > > Thank you, > > Ondrej Krehel > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2001/02/msg00149.html Try to make it be removed from there first: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-laptop <at> lists.debian.org/msg26375.html -- -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O madcoder <at> debian.org OOO http://www.madism.org
Le Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 05:43:18PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : > On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 03:10:29PM +0000, Ondro wrote: > > can you please remove my post from 2001? > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2001/02/msgxxxxx.html > > Try to make it be removed from there first: > http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-laptop <at> lists.debian.org/msgxxxxx.html Hi Pierre, Does that mean that the listmasters will really remove his posts if he manages to do what you told him? If not, we should better not make advices that sound like promises. Also I would like to recommend to not increase the page rank of messages requested for removal by not quoting their full web address… Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST <at> lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster <at> lists.debian.org
Hallo! Du (Charles Plessy) hast geschrieben: >Does that mean that the listmasters will really remove his posts if he manages >to do what you told him? If not, we should better not make advices that sound >like promises. > >Also I would like to recommend to not increase the page rank of messages >requested for removal by not quoting their full web address??? this is what we send to such requests: --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Debian-Listarchives-Policy is to NOT remove or alter any postings if they are published. Even if we would, it wouldn't help, as our lists are archived elsewhere, so once an email has been accepted it is out in the wild with its entire content and addresses and theres no way to get it back. The one exception to this rule is, when the posting is clearly spam. In that case press the 'Report as spam' button at the top of the page to nominate the posting for reviewing. Please see http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#disclaimer, http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/disclaimer and http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam for more information cord <at> liszt:~$ cat debian-listarchives The Debian-Listarchives-Policy is to NOT remove or alter any postings if they are published.(Continue reading)
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