Gordon Haverland | 7 Nov 20:07
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KDE 4.x in Debian

Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
traversing unstable/testing/stable?

Thanks.
Gord

Sune Vuorela | 7 Nov 22:17

Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <ghaverla <at> materialisations.com> wrote:
> Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
> on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
> traversing unstable/testing/stable?

unstable: within a week after lenny release
testing: probably a month later
stable: at squeeze release

/Sune
 - who currently have the highest odds of being the one to upload kde4
   to unstable

Adeodato Simó | 8 Nov 11:05

Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

* Sune Vuorela [Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:17:40 +0000]:

> On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <ghaverla <at> materialisations.com> wrote:
> > Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
> > on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
> > traversing unstable/testing/stable?

> unstable: within a week after lenny release

Hopefully it's possible to coordinate with the release team on this. In
principle I don't there there'll be any problems, since it's a pretty
much self-contained set of packages and the new libraries come from a
different source package, but well, I'm guessing you'd like for it to
migrate all at once, so coordination would be nice.

Cheers,

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Sune Vuorela | 8 Nov 11:49

Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

On 2008-11-08, Adeodato Sim?? <dato <at> net.com.org.es> wrote:
> * Sune Vuorela [Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:17:40 +0000]:
>
>> On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <ghaverla <at> materialisations.com> wrote:
>> > Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
>> > on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
>> > traversing unstable/testing/stable?
>
>> unstable: within a week after lenny release
>
> Hopefully it's possible to coordinate with the release team on this. In

Of course. 

But with the big backlog of mails needing processing in -release, I
thought I would wait a bit with taking release team time for
coordination.

If release team members feel like discussing it now, I'm open for that.

/Sune

Adeodato Simó | 8 Nov 11:52

Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

* Sune Vuorela [Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:49:23 +0000]:

> On 2008-11-08, Adeodato Sim?? <dato <at> net.com.org.es> wrote:
> > * Sune Vuorela [Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:17:40 +0000]:

> >> On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <ghaverla <at> materialisations.com> wrote:
> >> > Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
> >> > on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
> >> > traversing unstable/testing/stable?

> >> unstable: within a week after lenny release

> > Hopefully it's possible to coordinate with the release team on this. In

> Of course. 

Great.

> But with the big backlog of mails needing processing in -release, I
> thought I would wait a bit with taking release team time for
> coordination.

> If release team members feel like discussing it now, I'm open for that.

Oh no, of course coordinating with the release team /after/ the release
of Lenny.

Thanks,

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Chris Bannister | 9 Nov 16:58
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Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 09:17:40PM +0000, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <ghaverla <at> materialisations.com> wrote:
> > Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
> > on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
> > traversing unstable/testing/stable?
> 
> unstable: within a week after lenny release
> testing: probably a month later

Not 10 days? 

> stable: at squeeze release

Of course!, (maybe backports?) although maybe KDE 6.x :)

> /Sune
>  - who currently have the highest odds of being the one to upload kde4
>    to unstable

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Bernd Zeimetz | 18 Nov 23:54
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Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 09:17:40PM +0000, Sune Vuorela wrote:
>> On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <ghaverla <at> materialisations.com> wrote:
>>> Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
>>> on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
>>> traversing unstable/testing/stable?
>> unstable: within a week after lenny release
>> testing: probably a month later
> 
> Not 10 days? 

Do you really think it won't have RC bugs? :P :P

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Chris Bannister | 21 Nov 14:48
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Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:54:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 09:17:40PM +0000, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> >> On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <ghaverla <at> materialisations.com> wrote:
> >>> Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
> >>> on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
> >>> traversing unstable/testing/stable?
> >> unstable: within a week after lenny release
> >> testing: probably a month later
> > 
> > Not 10 days? 
> 
> Do you really think it won't have RC bugs? :P :P

Sorry, I was misunderstanding "packages migrate in 10 days" and
"testing".  Probably thinking packages migrate in 10 days for testing
unless a newer version appears in unstable in that time, where that new
version would migrate in 10 days instead etc.

I see now there is more tighter control and "testing" is a wee bit of
a misnomer.

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Jonas Smedegaard | 21 Nov 16:09
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Re: KDE 4.x in Debian


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 02:48:24AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:54:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Chris Bannister wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 09:17:40PM +0000, Sune Vuorela wrote:
>> >> On 2008-11-07, Gordon Haverland <ghaverla <at> materialisations.com> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official 
>> >>> comment on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, 
>> >>> and traversing unstable/testing/stable?
>> >> unstable: within a week after lenny release testing: probably a 
>> >> month later
>> > 
>> > Not 10 days?
>> 
>> Do you really think it won't have RC bugs? :P :P
>
>Sorry, I was misunderstanding "packages migrate in 10 days" and 
>"testing".  Probably thinking packages migrate in 10 days for testing 
>unless a newer version appears in unstable in that time, where that new 
>version would migrate in 10 days instead etc.
>
>I see now there is more tighter control and "testing" is a wee bit of a 
>misnomer.

The label "testing" does not refer to the testing of each package (this 
should ideally be done _before_ upload to Debian!), but to the whole 
_pool_ of packages and their relationships: The testing of next release 
of the distribution.

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Filipus Klutiero | 9 Nov 03:53

Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Can someone make a reasonable approximation to an official comment 
> on the timeline for KDE 4.x getting beyond experimental, and 
> traversing unstable/testing/stable?
>   
Ask on debian-kde... if no one already did.

Gordon Haverland | 9 Nov 19:29
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Re: KDE 4.x in Debian

I had been looking in many places for information on this, and it 
seemed writing Debian-Project was the best.  Thank you for the 
answer.

Gord


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