Norbert Preining | 6 Aug 2012 10:32
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uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

おふら様

こんにちは。Debian TeX Maint Teamのプライニング ノルベルトです。

I would kindly ask your opinion on the following two changes in the
packages pgf and latex-beamer you are maintaining:

For pgf: 
	do not compress pgf documentation so that it works properly with
	texdoc

For beamer:
	- do not compress beameruserguide.pdf
	-  add a symlink from below /usr/share/texmf/doc/latex/beamer to
	   /usr/share/doc/latex-beamer/beameruserguide.pdf to make sure
	   it is found by texdoc (Closes: #357032)

Both target one and only one thing, that users on Debian can use
	texdoc beamer
	texdoc pgf
as advertised and often recommended to find the right documentation.

There are several issues here: One is that compressed documentation
is still not perfectly supported. This is a problem on the Debian 
side since the viewer normally used (xdg-open) is non-blocking
which makes the documentation immediately disappear (the uncompressed
temp file).

The other item is that texdoc does not search outside of the texmf 
hierarchy, so we have to link the beamer users guide also into the
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Norbert Preining | 11 Dec 2012 04:40
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Re: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

Dear Ohura-san

some time ago I asked about uncrompessing docs, see below email.

In fact, in preparation for post-wheezy, I would like to ask
for updates of the latex-beamer class, too. It has seen already a lot
of revisions and we will release wheezy with a quite outdated
version. 3.10 was released in 2010, and since then quite some
things have been fixed.

I have already prepared locally a git repository ready for 
git-buildpackage that imports the last Debian release, plus 
packages the new 3.24 release.

Please let me know what you think about this package and your future
plans, and if I can be of any help, don't hesitate to ask. I would
also be glad if we take over latex-beamer into the Debian TeX group
and continue maintaining it together.

All the best

Norbert

On Mo, 06 Aug 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> I would kindly ask your opinion on the following two changes in the
> packages pgf and latex-beamer you are maintaining:
> 
> For pgf: 
> 	do not compress pgf documentation so that it works properly with
> 	texdoc
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OHURA Makoto | 17 Dec 2012 08:23
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Re: Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

  Hi, Norbert-san.

  Sorry for the delay in replying.

  I'll upload new upstream release of latex-beamer package in a few
days, probably this Tuesday or Wednesday.

  I have the will to maintain this package even now, but I don't have
enough time.  So possibly I will hand over this to Debian TeX group in
the future.

  Thanks.

At Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:40:43 +0900,
Norbert Preining wrote:
>
> Dear Ohura-san
>
> some time ago I asked about uncrompessing docs, see below email.
>
> In fact, in preparation for post-wheezy, I would like to ask
> for updates of the latex-beamer class, too. It has seen already a lot
> of revisions and we will release wheezy with a quite outdated
> version. 3.10 was released in 2010, and since then quite some
> things have been fixed.
>
> I have already prepared locally a git repository ready for
> git-buildpackage that imports the last Debian release, plus
> packages the new 3.24 release.
>
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Norbert Preining | 17 Dec 2012 13:31
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Re: Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

Ohura-san,

konbanha.

>   I'll upload new upstream release of latex-beamer package in a few
> days, probably this Tuesday or Wednesday.

If this goes to experimental I would like to ask you to:
* wait until I have uploaded tex-common 4.0 to experimental
* depend on tex-common >= 4
* install documentation that should be found with texdoc into
  /usr/share/texmf/doc/... (which will NOT(!!!) be a symlink anymore!!!)
* install Debian related docs (NEWS, Changelog etc) to the usual place
  /usr/share/doc/$package

tex-common 4 will go the way to drop
	/usr/share/texmf/doc -> /usr/share/doc/texmf
link, and in the end packages should *not* install in 
/usr/share/doc/texmf anymore 
(sorry, that was never a good idea, but well, things happen and remain
for long time sometimes ;-)

>   I have the will to maintain this package even now, but I don't have
> enough time.  So possibly I will hand over this to Debian TeX group in
> the future.

As said, if you prefer we can:
* add you to the Debian TeX group (if you are not already in there)
* add a git repository
* and work together
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Norbert Preining | 19 Dec 2012 04:00
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Re: Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

On Mo, 17 Dez 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> If this goes to experimental I would like to ask you to:
> * wait until I have uploaded tex-common 4.0 to experimental

This is done now ...

> * depend on tex-common >= 4
> * install documentation that should be found with texdoc into
>   /usr/share/texmf/doc/... (which will NOT(!!!) be a symlink anymore!!!)
> * install Debian related docs (NEWS, Changelog etc) to the usual place
>   /usr/share/doc/$package
> 
> tex-common 4 will go the way to drop
> 	/usr/share/texmf/doc -> /usr/share/doc/texmf
> link, and in the end packages should *not* install in 
> /usr/share/doc/texmf anymore 
> (sorry, that was never a good idea, but well, things happen and remain
> for long time sometimes ;-)

Best wishes

Norbert
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Norbert Preining | 19 Dec 2012 05:20
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Re: Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

Hi, sorry for the many emails.

once more me,

On Mi, 19 Dez 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Mo, 17 Dez 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > If this goes to experimental I would like to ask you to:
> > * wait until I have uploaded tex-common 4.0 to experimental
> 
> This is done now ...

And one more, 4.01 is uploaded to experimental, too.

With 4.01 and using dh_installtex the only thing that is necessary
is
	- Build-depend on tex-common >= 4.01
	- move the files to /usr/share/texmf/doc
dh_installtex *automatically* adds the dependency >= 4 if that
dir is present, and otherwise keeps it at >= 3.

> > * depend on tex-common >= 4

Not needed anymore, only Build-depend on tex-common >= 4.01 (or >=4 since
4.00 is disappearing)

> > * install documentation that should be found with texdoc into
> >   /usr/share/texmf/doc/... (which will NOT(!!!) be a symlink anymore!!!)

Yes.

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Norbert Preining | 19 Dec 2012 05:20
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Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

Hi, sorry for the many emails.

once more me,

On Mi, 19 Dez 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Mo, 17 Dez 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > If this goes to experimental I would like to ask you to:
> > * wait until I have uploaded tex-common 4.0 to experimental
> 
> This is done now ...

And one more, 4.01 is uploaded to experimental, too.

With 4.01 and using dh_installtex the only thing that is necessary
is
	- Build-depend on tex-common >= 4.01
	- move the files to /usr/share/texmf/doc
dh_installtex *automatically* adds the dependency >= 4 if that
dir is present, and otherwise keeps it at >= 3.

> > * depend on tex-common >= 4

Not needed anymore, only Build-depend on tex-common >= 4.01 (or >=4 since
4.00 is disappearing)

> > * install documentation that should be found with texdoc into
> >   /usr/share/texmf/doc/... (which will NOT(!!!) be a symlink anymore!!!)

Yes.

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Norbert Preining | 19 Dec 2012 04:00
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Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

On Mo, 17 Dez 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> If this goes to experimental I would like to ask you to:
> * wait until I have uploaded tex-common 4.0 to experimental

This is done now ...

> * depend on tex-common >= 4
> * install documentation that should be found with texdoc into
>   /usr/share/texmf/doc/... (which will NOT(!!!) be a symlink anymore!!!)
> * install Debian related docs (NEWS, Changelog etc) to the usual place
>   /usr/share/doc/$package
> 
> tex-common 4 will go the way to drop
> 	/usr/share/texmf/doc -> /usr/share/doc/texmf
> link, and in the end packages should *not* install in 
> /usr/share/doc/texmf anymore 
> (sorry, that was never a good idea, but well, things happen and remain
> for long time sometimes ;-)

Best wishes

Norbert
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Norbert Preining            preining <at> {jaist.ac.jp, logic.at, debian.org}
JAIST, Japan                                 TeX Live & Debian Developer
DSA: 0x09C5B094   fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76  A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094
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FOINDLE (vb.)
To queue-jump very discreetly by working one's way up the line without
being spotted doing so.
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Norbert Preining | 17 Dec 2012 13:31
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Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

Ohura-san,

konbanha.

>   I'll upload new upstream release of latex-beamer package in a few
> days, probably this Tuesday or Wednesday.

If this goes to experimental I would like to ask you to:
* wait until I have uploaded tex-common 4.0 to experimental
* depend on tex-common >= 4
* install documentation that should be found with texdoc into
  /usr/share/texmf/doc/... (which will NOT(!!!) be a symlink anymore!!!)
* install Debian related docs (NEWS, Changelog etc) to the usual place
  /usr/share/doc/$package

tex-common 4 will go the way to drop
	/usr/share/texmf/doc -> /usr/share/doc/texmf
link, and in the end packages should *not* install in 
/usr/share/doc/texmf anymore 
(sorry, that was never a good idea, but well, things happen and remain
for long time sometimes ;-)

>   I have the will to maintain this package even now, but I don't have
> enough time.  So possibly I will hand over this to Debian TeX group in
> the future.

As said, if you prefer we can:
* add you to the Debian TeX group (if you are not already in there)
* add a git repository
* and work together
(Continue reading)

OHURA Makoto | 17 Dec 2012 08:23
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Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

  Hi, Norbert-san.

  Sorry for the delay in replying.

  I'll upload new upstream release of latex-beamer package in a few
days, probably this Tuesday or Wednesday.

  I have the will to maintain this package even now, but I don't have
enough time.  So possibly I will hand over this to Debian TeX group in
the future.

  Thanks.

At Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:40:43 +0900,
Norbert Preining wrote:
>
> Dear Ohura-san
>
> some time ago I asked about uncrompessing docs, see below email.
>
> In fact, in preparation for post-wheezy, I would like to ask
> for updates of the latex-beamer class, too. It has seen already a lot
> of revisions and we will release wheezy with a quite outdated
> version. 3.10 was released in 2010, and since then quite some
> things have been fixed.
>
> I have already prepared locally a git repository ready for
> git-buildpackage that imports the last Debian release, plus
> packages the new 3.24 release.
>
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Norbert Preining | 11 Dec 2012 04:40
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Bug#357032: uncompressed documentation for pgf and beamer

Dear Ohura-san

some time ago I asked about uncrompessing docs, see below email.

In fact, in preparation for post-wheezy, I would like to ask
for updates of the latex-beamer class, too. It has seen already a lot
of revisions and we will release wheezy with a quite outdated
version. 3.10 was released in 2010, and since then quite some
things have been fixed.

I have already prepared locally a git repository ready for 
git-buildpackage that imports the last Debian release, plus 
packages the new 3.24 release.

Please let me know what you think about this package and your future
plans, and if I can be of any help, don't hesitate to ask. I would
also be glad if we take over latex-beamer into the Debian TeX group
and continue maintaining it together.

All the best

Norbert

On Mo, 06 Aug 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
> I would kindly ask your opinion on the following two changes in the
> packages pgf and latex-beamer you are maintaining:
> 
> For pgf: 
> 	do not compress pgf documentation so that it works properly with
> 	texdoc
(Continue reading)


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