Discussing Chinese localization issues, mainly translating Debian docs and programs to Chinese. ()

Andrew Lee | 7 Jul 2012 23:46

Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Dear debian-l10n-chinese and debian-chinese-big5 lists,

Wheezy has been frozen and to be release soon. I would like to let all
of you know that chinese-t-desktop in tasksel may be able to have an
update for wheezy. Please feel free to give suggestions.

The task-chinese-t-desktop currently looks like this:

Recommends:
        scim-chewing,
        im-switch,
        scim-tables-zh,
        xfonts-wqy,
# Uncomment once gcin 1.3.3 is available.
#gcin
        stardict,
        ttf-arphic-ukai,
#xfonts-efont-unicode           # seems inessential.
        ttf-arphic-uming,
#xfonts-intl-chinese            # seems inessential.
#unifont                        # seems inessential.
# seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.
        ttf-wqy-zenhei,
        libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
        libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
        iceweasel-l10n-zh-tw,
        paps,
# poppler-data which is non-free is needed to display
# Chinese on poppler applications.
        poppler-data

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Yao Wei (魏銘廷 | 11 Jul 2012 04:28

Re: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Some recommendations on input method:

SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
started again by another people.)
Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:

ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

and some table-based input methods and so on...

im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
(文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

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Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars | 11 Jul 2012 06:26

Re: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

I second Yao Wei's opinion.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Yao Wei (魏銘廷) <mwei <at> lxde.org> wrote:

Some recommendations on input method:

SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
started again by another people.)
Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:

ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

and some table-based input methods and so on...

im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
(文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

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Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars | 11 Jul 2012 06:26

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

I second Yao Wei's opinion.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Yao Wei (魏銘廷) <mwei <at> lxde.org> wrote:

Some recommendations on input method:

SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
started again by another people.)
Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:

ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

and some table-based input methods and so on...

im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
(文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

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Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars | 11 Jul 2012 06:26

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

I second Yao Wei's opinion.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Yao Wei (魏銘廷) <mwei <at> lxde.org> wrote:

Some recommendations on input method:

SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
started again by another people.)
Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:

ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

and some table-based input methods and so on...

im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
(文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

--
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Andrew Lee | 12 Jul 2012 23:37

Re: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Dear Yao, FourDollars and all Traditional Chinese users,

2012/7/11 Yao Wei (魏銘廷) <mwei@...>:
> Some recommendations on input method:
>
> SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
> started again by another people.)

Thanks to confirm. The upstream is not dead.

> Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
> by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:
>
> ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
> fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

The problem is not just be able to typing Chinese here. The tasksel
designs for normal users
who doesn't know how to install packages in debian.

So it would be nice to have an overview from nontechnical users' point
of view. which input
method are mostly user friendly and attractive for even non-debian users?

Everyone I've polled who has installed ibus for nontechnical users has
had to switch out ibus
due to its non-staleness and non-user-friendliness. Technical users
who want ibus or
whatever will have no difficulty installing it.

> and some table-based input methods and so on...

Which table do you mean here?

> im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
> deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

Done.

> And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
> (文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
> ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

The comment says "seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese."
Can you please confirm which fonts are needed for display Chinese in openjdk?

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Andrew Lee | 12 Jul 2012 23:37

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Dear Yao, FourDollars and all Traditional Chinese users,

2012/7/11 Yao Wei (魏銘廷) <mwei <at> lxde.org>:
> Some recommendations on input method:
>
> SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
> started again by another people.)

Thanks to confirm. The upstream is not dead.

> Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
> by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:
>
> ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
> fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

The problem is not just be able to typing Chinese here. The tasksel
designs for normal users
who doesn't know how to install packages in debian.

So it would be nice to have an overview from nontechnical users' point
of view. which input
method are mostly user friendly and attractive for even non-debian users?

Everyone I've polled who has installed ibus for nontechnical users has
had to switch out ibus
due to its non-staleness and non-user-friendliness. Technical users
who want ibus or
whatever will have no difficulty installing it.

> and some table-based input methods and so on...

Which table do you mean here?

> im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
> deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

Done.

> And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
> (文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
> ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

The comment says "seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese."
Can you please confirm which fonts are needed for display Chinese in openjdk?

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Andrew Lee | 12 Jul 2012 23:37

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Dear Yao, FourDollars and all Traditional Chinese users,

2012/7/11 Yao Wei (魏銘廷) <mwei <at> lxde.org>:
> Some recommendations on input method:
>
> SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
> started again by another people.)

Thanks to confirm. The upstream is not dead.

> Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
> by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:
>
> ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
> fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

The problem is not just be able to typing Chinese here. The tasksel
designs for normal users
who doesn't know how to install packages in debian.

So it would be nice to have an overview from nontechnical users' point
of view. which input
method are mostly user friendly and attractive for even non-debian users?

Everyone I've polled who has installed ibus for nontechnical users has
had to switch out ibus
due to its non-staleness and non-user-friendliness. Technical users
who want ibus or
whatever will have no difficulty installing it.

> and some table-based input methods and so on...

Which table do you mean here?

> im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
> deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

Done.

> And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
> (文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
> ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

The comment says "seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese."
Can you please confirm which fonts are needed for display Chinese in openjdk?

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Yao Wei | 11 Jul 2012 04:28

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Some recommendations on input method:

SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
started again by another people.)
Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:

ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

and some table-based input methods and so on...

im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
(文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

--

-- 
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Yao Wei | 11 Jul 2012 04:28

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Some recommendations on input method:

SCIM somehow stopped their maintenance. (But seems their maintenance
started again by another people.)
Anyway, I would hope using IBus as a default recommendation, followed
by some common input methods that can type Chinese. Such as:

ibus-chewing | gcin-chewing | hime-chewing | fcitx-chewing |
fcitx-libpinyin | scim-chewing

and some table-based input methods and so on...

im-switch needs to update to im-config too, because im-switch is
deprecated and IME maintainers now recommend using im-config.

And, as my personal (and many users') favorite, Wen Quan Yi Micro Hei
(文泉驛微米黑) seems like a good system typeface, so I would recommend:
ttf-wqy-microhei | ttf-wqy-zenhei

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-- 
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Christian PERRIER | 14 Jul 2012 02:39

Re: Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Quoting Andrew Lee (ajqlee@...):
> Dear debian-l10n-chinese and debian-chinese-big5 lists,
> 
> Wheezy has been frozen and to be release soon. I would like to let all
> of you know that chinese-t-desktop in tasksel may be able to have an
> update for wheezy. Please feel free to give suggestions.
> 
> The task-chinese-t-desktop currently looks like this:

Some changes have been proposed by Aron Xu wrt input methods. The
proposal was made for *all* tasks that use input methods, which of
course includes chinese-t-desktop.

The current task now looks like this:

Package: task-chinese-t-desktop
Architecture: all
Description: Traditional Chinese desktop
 This task localises the desktop in Traditional Chinese.
Depends: ${misc:Depends},
Recommends:
	ibus-chewing,
	ibus-gtk,
	ibus-gtk3,
	im-config,
	xfonts-wqy,
	ttf-arphic-ukai,
#xfonts-efont-unicode		# seems inessential.
	ttf-arphic-uming,
#xfonts-intl-chinese		# seems inessential.
#unifont			# seems inessential.
# seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.
	fonts-droid,
	ttf-wqy-microhei,
	ttf-wqy-zenhei,
	libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
	libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
	iceweasel-l10n-zh-tw,
# poppler-data which is non-free is needed to display
# Chinese on poppler applications.
	poppler-data

So, if you want to propose other changes, please use this as a
reference.

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Per Olofsson | 14 Jul 2012 13:02

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

2012-07-14 02:39, Christian PERRIER skrev:
> # poppler-data which is non-free is needed to display
> # Chinese on poppler applications.
> 	poppler-data

poppler-data is no longer non-free so you can remove the comment.

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Per Olofsson | 14 Jul 2012 13:06

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

2012-07-14 13:02, Per Olofsson skrev:
> 2012-07-14 02:39, Christian PERRIER skrev:
>> # poppler-data which is non-free is needed to display
>> # Chinese on poppler applications.
>> 	poppler-data
> 
> poppler-data is no longer non-free so you can remove the comment.
> 

Actually, poppler-data is recommended by libpoppler19 so it should be
possible to remove it from the task.

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Per Olofsson | 14 Jul 2012 13:06

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

2012-07-14 13:02, Per Olofsson skrev:
> 2012-07-14 02:39, Christian PERRIER skrev:
>> # poppler-data which is non-free is needed to display
>> # Chinese on poppler applications.
>> 	poppler-data
> 
> poppler-data is no longer non-free so you can remove the comment.
> 

Actually, poppler-data is recommended by libpoppler19 so it should be
possible to remove it from the task.

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Per Olofsson | 14 Jul 2012 13:02

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

2012-07-14 02:39, Christian PERRIER skrev:
> # poppler-data which is non-free is needed to display
> # Chinese on poppler applications.
> 	poppler-data

poppler-data is no longer non-free so you can remove the comment.

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-- 
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Andrew Lee | 14 Jul 2012 19:00

Re: Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle@...>:
>         ibus-chewing,

I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
that I(Traditional user) expected.

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Christian PERRIER | 14 Jul 2012 19:04

Re: Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Quoting Andrew Lee (ajqlee@...):
> 2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle@...>:
> >         ibus-chewing,
> 
> I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
> that I(Traditional user) expected.

Well, as I just said "live", there is still time to correct things..

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Christian PERRIER | 14 Jul 2012 19:04

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Quoting Andrew Lee (ajqlee <at> debian.org):
> 2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle <at> debian.org>:
> >         ibus-chewing,
> 
> I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
> that I(Traditional user) expected.

Well, as I just said "live", there is still time to correct things..

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Christian PERRIER | 14 Jul 2012 19:04

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Quoting Andrew Lee (ajqlee <at> debian.org):
> 2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle <at> debian.org>:
> >         ibus-chewing,
> 
> I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
> that I(Traditional user) expected.

Well, as I just said "live", there is still time to correct things..

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Aron Xu | 14 Jul 2012 19:20

Re: Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Andrew,

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Andrew Lee <ajqlee@...> wrote:
> 2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle@...>:
>>         ibus-chewing,
>
> I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
> that I(Traditional user) expected.

I'm aware of the ongoing discussion about the default input method
selection of chinese-t task, and I just did a minor change to the old
one by installing im-config and IM Modules by default. I know that
gcin is again included in Debian but it's a bit hard for me to judge
which one best fits the average needs... Please change it as you wish,
:)

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Andrew Lee | 14 Jul 2012 19:53

Re: Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

2012/7/15 Aron Xu <happyaron.xu@...>:
> gcin is again included in Debian but it's a bit hard for me to judge
> which one best fits the average needs... Please change it as you wish,

Thanks Aron. I switched it back to scim for now.

I have no difficultly to switch to anyone my own. I just consider of what we
can fit the most non-tech users' expectation.

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Aron Xu | 14 Jul 2012 20:02

Re: Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi,

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Andrew Lee <ajqlee@...> wrote:
> 2012/7/15 Aron Xu <happyaron.xu@...>:
>> gcin is again included in Debian but it's a bit hard for me to judge
>> which one best fits the average needs... Please change it as you wish,
>
> Thanks Aron. I switched it back to scim for now.
>
> I have no difficultly to switch to anyone my own. I just consider of what we
> can fit the most non-tech users' expectation.
>
> --
> -Andrew

There are a group of people working on SCIM right now, there is one DD
(who helped a looooooooooot on improving the packaging quality), but
scim is not complete in Wheezy and the quality still needs a lot of
improvements... So I suggest to pick from GCIN/HIME, IBus and Fcitx.

GCIN/HIME: developed by zh-hant developer, but the framework itself is
a bit lagged behind comparing with IBus and Fcitx.

IBus: de facto input method framework, with chewing and bopomofo,
cangjie (and more tables) for zh-hant users, but was reported to be
not very good in some details. This is the default in Ubuntu, which
I've chosen to be safe in my modifications.

Fcitx: it gets a complete redesign and is still fast moving, with
fcitx-chewing, fcitx-libpinyin (libpinyin has a very good Zhuyin
implementation), and all tables supported by SCIM. It could be not
very good at input details for zh-hant users but I think it worth a
try.

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Aron Xu | 14 Jul 2012 19:20

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Andrew,

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Andrew Lee <ajqlee <at> debian.org> wrote:
> 2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle <at> debian.org>:
>>         ibus-chewing,
>
> I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
> that I(Traditional user) expected.

I'm aware of the ongoing discussion about the default input method
selection of chinese-t task, and I just did a minor change to the old
one by installing im-config and IM Modules by default. I know that
gcin is again included in Debian but it's a bit hard for me to judge
which one best fits the average needs... Please change it as you wish,
:)

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Aron Xu

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Aron Xu | 14 Jul 2012 19:20

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Andrew,

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Andrew Lee <ajqlee <at> debian.org> wrote:
> 2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle <at> debian.org>:
>>         ibus-chewing,
>
> I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
> that I(Traditional user) expected.

I'm aware of the ongoing discussion about the default input method
selection of chinese-t task, and I just did a minor change to the old
one by installing im-config and IM Modules by default. I know that
gcin is again included in Debian but it's a bit hard for me to judge
which one best fits the average needs... Please change it as you wish,
:)

--

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Aron Xu

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Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars | 15 Jul 2012 09:00

Re: Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Andrew,

Could you point out which features of ibus-chewing are not expected?

I would like to fix them.

Regards,

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Andrew Lee <ajqlee-8fiUuRrzOP0dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle-8fiUuRrzOP0dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>:
> ibus-chewing,

I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
that I(Traditional user) expected.

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Andrew Lee | 21 Jul 2012 06:09

Re: Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Fourdollars,

2012/7/15 Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) <fourdollars@...>:
> Could you point out which features of ibus-chewing are not expected?
> I would like to fix them.

Here we are discussing is for wheezy which is in a freeze stage. So
that all the new
features are no related.

Thank you for your efforts to get all expected features implemented in
ibus-chewing.
Here are some feature requests and bugs opened in upstream:
    http://goo.gl/m0VyJ

PS. I'd love to confirm and test all features after you fixed in sid.
Please DO NOT
keep cc not related new features discussion to #680668.

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Andrew Lee | 21 Jul 2012 06:09

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Fourdollars,

2012/7/15 Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) <fourdollars <at> gmail.com>:
> Could you point out which features of ibus-chewing are not expected?
> I would like to fix them.

Here we are discussing is for wheezy which is in a freeze stage. So
that all the new
features are no related.

Thank you for your efforts to get all expected features implemented in
ibus-chewing.
Here are some feature requests and bugs opened in upstream:
    http://goo.gl/m0VyJ

PS. I'd love to confirm and test all features after you fixed in sid.
Please DO NOT
keep cc not related new features discussion to #680668.

Cheers,
--

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Andrew Lee | 21 Jul 2012 06:09

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Fourdollars,

2012/7/15 Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) <fourdollars <at> gmail.com>:
> Could you point out which features of ibus-chewing are not expected?
> I would like to fix them.

Here we are discussing is for wheezy which is in a freeze stage. So
that all the new
features are no related.

Thank you for your efforts to get all expected features implemented in
ibus-chewing.
Here are some feature requests and bugs opened in upstream:
    http://goo.gl/m0VyJ

PS. I'd love to confirm and test all features after you fixed in sid.
Please DO NOT
keep cc not related new features discussion to #680668.

Cheers,
--

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Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars | 15 Jul 2012 09:00

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Andrew,

Could you point out which features of ibus-chewing are not expected?

I would like to fix them.

Regards,

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Andrew Lee <ajqlee <at> debian.org> wrote:

2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle <at> debian.org>:
> ibus-chewing,

I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
that I(Traditional user) expected.

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Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars | 15 Jul 2012 09:00

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Hi Andrew,

Could you point out which features of ibus-chewing are not expected?

I would like to fix them.

Regards,

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Andrew Lee <ajqlee <at> debian.org> wrote:

2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle <at> debian.org>:
> ibus-chewing,

I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
that I(Traditional user) expected.

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Andrew Lee | 14 Jul 2012 19:00

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle <at> debian.org>:
>         ibus-chewing,

I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
that I(Traditional user) expected.

--

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Andrew Lee | 14 Jul 2012 19:00

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

2012/7/14 Christian PERRIER <bubulle <at> debian.org>:
>         ibus-chewing,

I tested ibus-chewing on my computer. It doesn't have some features
that I(Traditional user) expected.

--

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Christian PERRIER | 14 Jul 2012 02:39

Bug#680668: Updating chinese-t-desktop in tasksel for Wheezy.

Quoting Andrew Lee (ajqlee <at> debian.org):
> Dear debian-l10n-chinese and debian-chinese-big5 lists,
> 
> Wheezy has been frozen and to be release soon. I would like to let all
> of you know that chinese-t-desktop in tasksel may be able to have an
> update for wheezy. Please feel free to give suggestions.
> 
> The task-chinese-t-desktop currently looks like this:

Some changes have been proposed by Aron Xu wrt input methods. The
proposal was made for *all* tasks that use input methods, which of
course includes chinese-t-desktop.

The current task now looks like this:

Package: task-chinese-t-desktop
Architecture: all
Description: Traditional Chinese desktop
 This task localises the desktop in Traditional Chinese.
Depends: ${misc:Depends},
Recommends:
	ibus-chewing,
	ibus-gtk,
	ibus-gtk3,
	im-config,
	xfonts-wqy,
	ttf-arphic-ukai,
#xfonts-efont-unicode		# seems inessential.
	ttf-arphic-uming,
#xfonts-intl-chinese		# seems inessential.
#unifont			# seems inessential.
# seems openjdk needs this to display Chinese.
	fonts-droid,
	ttf-wqy-microhei,
	ttf-wqy-zenhei,
	libreoffice-l10n-zh-tw,
	libreoffice-help-zh-tw,
	iceweasel-l10n-zh-tw,
# poppler-data which is non-free is needed to display
# Chinese on poppler applications.
	poppler-data

So, if you want to propose other changes, please use this as a
reference.