Mike Holstein | 12 Jul 2010 03:40
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Re: /me tapping mic... is this thing on??

I have no trouble with the RT kernel in ubuntu... I use the one from the default repos... however, I would like to discuss 64studio...

right now, when you go to the 64studio main page, it reads...

"64 Studio Ltd. produces bespoke GNU/Linux distributions which are compatible with official Debian and Ubuntu releases. Specialising in multimedia and digital content creation platforms which we develop for our OEM partners, we also offer support, documentation services and consultancy. Our software is already included in several shipping products in the professional audio market, with more to follow. In addition, we offer a free download product which has won critical acclaim for its stability and high performance."

when in fact, this is more like it..

"These days, our focus is not on a general-purpose creative distro,
because Ubuntu Studio and other similar projects like AV Linux provide
that. Rather, we use our distro customisation tools to create niche
products, like musical instruments, mobile devices and audio research
equipment. There will be more free download audio/multimedia distros available from
us though, because we need to stay very close to the community that
we've helped create."

in the future, responses about 64studio in this thread would be greatly appreciated... thanks..


2010/7/10 Jimmy <enorbet <at> gmail.com>

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On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf-ZCLZIpdjs0kJGwgDXS7ZQA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Hi :)

So if a 64-bit Debian or Ubuntu based Linux is wanted, than a user might
be more comfortable to use Ubuntu Studio, but 64 Studio? Or using Ubuntu
Studio 8.04.1 (Hardy) + the 64 Studio 3.0 repository, resp. Ubuntu
Studio 9.10 (Karmic) + the 64 Studio 3.3 repository?

My plan for today was:

"I scheduled to get 64 Studio 3.0 and 3.3 from my broken hard disk
drive, by using a hammer or something softer, to free the heads, when
they do this click-click sound, but because the postman delivered the
second sound card I'm too curious, so I'll restore at least 3.3 from a
backup, to my new hard disk drive and delay the original plan."

Hm, maybe I'll completely delay to restore 64 Studio, but should take a
look at Ubuntu Studio 10.04 (Lucid)?!

I dunno what I'll do. At the moment it's to hot in the room, so I'll
turn of the computer and leave the room.

Cheers!

Ralf

Hope you don't mind if I answer LIFO.

You actually have the answer in your conundrum. With 64 Studio you actually have the option to upgrade and carry on as always just a little better.  It has been my experience that Ubuntu is too locked into the ":new = improved" philosophy to the extent that things that used to work are either non-existent anymore or cease to work which makes upgrading far riskier. To be fair and since I've been informed that Studio Ubuntu is not Canononical and I have only experience with 10.04, I can;t say if this will definitely be the case with SU.  However historically there are many "branches" of Ubuntu that stay with the "trunk" or die off.  They are often utterly dependent.

OT -  As for your clicking hard drive, as long as it isn't grinding you may be able to save it.  If you use the manufacturer's thorough test program sometimes just forcing the disk through a few hours of block-by-block checking will improve function long enough to back it up, if not put back into use.  Hirens Boot CD is a good (and free) source for such tools.    

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Ralf Mardorf | 12 Jul 2010 03:59

Re: /me tapping mic... is this thing on??

On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 21:40 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
> I have no trouble with the RT kernel in ubuntu... I use the one from
> the default repos... however, I would like to discuss 64studio...

I also don't have issues, regarding to a boot-able kernel-rt, when using
Ubuntu Lucid or a RPM based distro like Suse, when I set up everything
myself, but Ubuntustudio Lucid amd64 ships without a kernel-rt by
default and non of the kernel-rt from the repositories, neither a self
build kernel-rt can be booted.
For Ubuntustudio I switched to their mailing list.

AFAIK 64 Studio is the only DEB based distro that ships with amd64
support and that is usable, unfortunately there often were issues,
because it was outdated. At the moment 3.3 is okay, but endangered to
become outdated.

I'll report back when 64 Studio 3.0 and 3.3 amd64 are restored on my
machine and I run several tests.

Cheers!

Ralf
Mike Holstein | 12 Jul 2010 08:08
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Re: /me tapping mic... is this thing on??

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf-ZCLZIpdjs0kJGwgDXS7ZQA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 21:40 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
> I have no trouble with the RT kernel in ubuntu... I use the one from
> the default repos... however, I would like to discuss 64studio...

I also don't have issues, regarding to a boot-able kernel-rt, when using
Ubuntu Lucid or a RPM based distro like Suse, when I set up everything
myself, but Ubuntustudio Lucid amd64 ships without a kernel-rt by
default and non of the kernel-rt from the repositories, neither a self
build kernel-rt can be booted.
For Ubuntustudio I switched to their mailing list.

AFAIK 64 Studio is the only DEB based distro that ships with amd64
support and that is usable, unfortunately there often were issues,
because it was outdated. At the moment 3.3 is okay, but endangered to
become outdated.

I'll report back when 64 Studio 3.0 and 3.3 amd64 are restored on my
machine and I run several tests.

Cheers!

Ralf

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Brian Redfern | 12 Jul 2010 09:23
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Re: /me tapping mic... is this thing on??

I wound up rolling my own thing that's tuned for atom processors, I based it off of lubuntu, so lxde is the desktop. But its 32 bit because I'm shooting for atom processors. The stock rt kernel for ubuntu seems to run fine on 32 bit. With all the non audio services turned off and rt kernel and rtirq it runs really low latency on my eeepc netbook.

I'm able to run the latest versions of ardour and hydrogen. The machine is an atom processor and runs a 30 gig solid state drive with only 1 gig of ram.

I've run 64studio for regular desktop pcs but have had an easier time running the most recent versions of ubuntu on netbooks. But I found netbook remix to be pretty useless because it takes too many resources to run the ui, I found lxde is great for maximizing resources to put to use for audio.

On Jul 11, 2010 11:10 PM, "Mike Holstein" <mikeh789-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

i spoke with a freenode staffer, and apparently someone from the 64studio team can go to http://freenode.net/group_registration_form.php and request a replacement group registration form to regain control of the IRC channel #64studio... ALSO the staffer just suggested http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml ... good luck guys, and thanks again...

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf-ZCLZIpdjs0kJGwgDXS7ZQA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 21:40 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
> I have no trouble with the RT kernel in ubuntu... I use the one from
> the default repos... however, I would like to discuss 64studio...

I also don't have issues, regarding to a boot-able kernel-rt, when using
Ubuntu Lucid or a RPM based distro like Suse, when I set up everything
myself, but Ubuntustudio Lucid amd64 ships without a kernel-rt by
default and non of the kernel-rt from the repositories, neither a self
build kernel-rt can be booted.
For Ubuntustudio I switched to their mailing list.

AFAIK 64 Studio is the only DEB based distro that ships with amd64
support and that is usable, unfortunately there often were issues,
because it was outdated. At the moment 3.3 is okay, but endangered to
become outdated.

I'll report back when 64 Studio 3.0 and 3.3 amd64 are restored on my
machine and I run several tests.

Cheers!

Ralf



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