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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò | 23 Oct 00:44

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Last rites for XMMS

So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the 
tree.

I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:

dev-perl/Xmms-Perl
dev-python/pyxmms
gnome-extra/gxmms
media-plugins/dumb-xmms
media-plugins/efxmms
media-plugins/eq-xmms
media-plugins/modplugxmms
media-plugins/xalbumlist
media-plugins/xmmplayer
media-plugins/xmms-adplug
media-plugins/xmms-alarm
media-plugins/xmms-arts
media-plugins/xmms-blursk
media-plugins/xmms-btexmms
media-plugins/xmms-cdcover
media-plugins/xmms-cdread
media-plugins/xmms-coverviewer
media-plugins/xmms-crossfade
media-plugins/xmms-crystality
media-plugins/xmms-dflowers
media-plugins/xmms-dscope
media-plugins/xmms-dspectogram
media-plugins/xmms-dspectral
media-plugins/xmms-extra
media-plugins/xmms-fc
media-plugins/xmms-find
media-plugins/xmms-finespectrum
media-plugins/xmms-fmradio
media-plugins/xmms-gdancer
media-plugins/xmms-goom
media-plugins/xmms-idcin
media-plugins/xmms-imms
media-plugins/xmms-infinity
media-plugins/xmms-infopipe
media-plugins/xmms-iris
media-plugins/xmms-itouch
media-plugins/xmms-jack
media-plugins/xmms-jess
media-plugins/xmms-kde
media-plugins/xmms-kjofol
media-plugins/xmms-ladspa
media-plugins/xmms-libvisual
media-plugins/xmms-lirc
media-plugins/xmms-liveice
media-plugins/xmms-liveplugin
media-plugins/xmms-lyrc
media-plugins/xmms-mad
media-plugins/xmms-midi
media-plugins/xmms-morestate
media-plugins/xmms-mp3cue
media-plugins/xmms-musepack
media-plugins/xmms-nas
media-plugins/xmms-nebulus
media-plugins/xmms-null
media-plugins/xmms-oggre
media-plugins/xmms-outpost
media-plugins/xmms-pipe
media-plugins/xmms-realrandom
media-plugins/xmms-repeatit
media-plugins/xmms-scrobbler
media-plugins/xmms-shell
media-plugins/xmms-shn
media-plugins/xmms-sid
media-plugins/xmms-smpeg
media-plugins/xmms-sndfile
media-plugins/xmms-spc
media-plugins/xmms-speex
media-plugins/xmms-tfmx
media-plugins/xmms-volnorm
media-plugins/xmms-wakeup
media-plugins/xmms-wma
media-plugins/xmms-wmdiscotux
media-plugins/xmms-xf86audio
media-plugins/xmms-xmmsd
media-plugins/xmms-xmmsmplayer
media-sound/ctrlxmms
media-sound/longplayer
media-sound/madman
media-sound/xmms
x11-plugins/gaim-xmms-remote
x11-themes/xmms-themes

They'll be removed next month... so that I can have my birthday present from 
Gentoo... getting rid of xmms finally...

Yes this is long overdue...

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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò | 29 Oct 19:30

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Re: Last rites for XMMS

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On Monday 23 October 2006 00:44, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
xfce-extra/xfce4-xmms
xfce-extra/xfce4-xmms-controller

These two were not depending on xmms but won't build without it, also masked 
pending removal.

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Michael Cummings | 23 Oct 16:08

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Re: Last rites for XMMS

While masking, did you also correct any ebuilds you might have affected
that depended on those packages? Not trying to be rude or bitter, just
making sure everything was covered (since the perl component is a dep of
another package or 2).

On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 00:44 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
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> So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the 
> tree.
> 
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
> 
> dev-perl/Xmms-Perl
> dev-python/pyxmms
> gnome-extra/gxmms
> media-plugins/dumb-xmms
> media-plugins/efxmms
> media-plugins/eq-xmms
> media-plugins/modplugxmms
> media-plugins/xalbumlist
> media-plugins/xmmplayer
> media-plugins/xmms-adplug
> media-plugins/xmms-alarm
> media-plugins/xmms-arts
> media-plugins/xmms-blursk
> media-plugins/xmms-btexmms
> media-plugins/xmms-cdcover
> media-plugins/xmms-cdread
> media-plugins/xmms-coverviewer
> media-plugins/xmms-crossfade
> media-plugins/xmms-crystality
> media-plugins/xmms-dflowers
> media-plugins/xmms-dscope
> media-plugins/xmms-dspectogram
> media-plugins/xmms-dspectral
> media-plugins/xmms-extra
> media-plugins/xmms-fc
> media-plugins/xmms-find
> media-plugins/xmms-finespectrum
> media-plugins/xmms-fmradio
> media-plugins/xmms-gdancer
> media-plugins/xmms-goom
> media-plugins/xmms-idcin
> media-plugins/xmms-imms
> media-plugins/xmms-infinity
> media-plugins/xmms-infopipe
> media-plugins/xmms-iris
> media-plugins/xmms-itouch
> media-plugins/xmms-jack
> media-plugins/xmms-jess
> media-plugins/xmms-kde
> media-plugins/xmms-kjofol
> media-plugins/xmms-ladspa
> media-plugins/xmms-libvisual
> media-plugins/xmms-lirc
> media-plugins/xmms-liveice
> media-plugins/xmms-liveplugin
> media-plugins/xmms-lyrc
> media-plugins/xmms-mad
> media-plugins/xmms-midi
> media-plugins/xmms-morestate
> media-plugins/xmms-mp3cue
> media-plugins/xmms-musepack
> media-plugins/xmms-nas
> media-plugins/xmms-nebulus
> media-plugins/xmms-null
> media-plugins/xmms-oggre
> media-plugins/xmms-outpost
> media-plugins/xmms-pipe
> media-plugins/xmms-realrandom
> media-plugins/xmms-repeatit
> media-plugins/xmms-scrobbler
> media-plugins/xmms-shell
> media-plugins/xmms-shn
> media-plugins/xmms-sid
> media-plugins/xmms-smpeg
> media-plugins/xmms-sndfile
> media-plugins/xmms-spc
> media-plugins/xmms-speex
> media-plugins/xmms-tfmx
> media-plugins/xmms-volnorm
> media-plugins/xmms-wakeup
> media-plugins/xmms-wma
> media-plugins/xmms-wmdiscotux
> media-plugins/xmms-xf86audio
> media-plugins/xmms-xmmsd
> media-plugins/xmms-xmmsmplayer
> media-sound/ctrlxmms
> media-sound/longplayer
> media-sound/madman
> media-sound/xmms
> x11-plugins/gaim-xmms-remote
> x11-themes/xmms-themes
> 
> They'll be removed next month... so that I can have my birthday present from 
> Gentoo... getting rid of xmms finally...
> 
> Yes this is long overdue...
> 
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò | 23 Oct 16:16

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Re: Last rites for XMMS

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On Monday 23 October 2006 16:08, Michael Cummings wrote:
>   While masking, did you also correct any ebuilds you might have affected
> that depended on those packages? Not trying to be rude or bitter, just
> making sure everything was covered (since the perl component is a dep of
> another package or 2).
Probably not covered everything, I left Mr_Bones_ and jakub to run a check for 
me afterward, unfortunately identifying every and all the packages on the 
first run was pretty impossible -considering also there are packages with 
unstated dependencies, like two XFCE4 packages- I'll mask and notify about 
anything else that might come up as soona s they can give me the data.

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Duncan | 23 Oct 17:26

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Re: Last rites for XMMS

"Diego 'Flameeyes' =?utf-8?q?Petten=C3=B2?=" <flameeyes <at> gentoo.org> posted
200610231616.50546 <at> enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org, excerpted below, on
 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:16:50 +0200:

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> Probably not covered everything, I left Mr_Bones_ and jakub to run a
> check for me afterward, unfortunately identifying every and all the
> packages on the first run was pretty impossible -considering also there
> are packages with unstated dependencies, like two XFCE4 packages- I'll
> mask and notify about anything else that might come up as soona s they
> can give me the data.
>
>
I don't suppose it's possible to let amarok continue to use all those xmms
visualizations, is it?  It'd be nice...

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Mike Bonar | 23 Oct 18:58

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On Monday 23 October 2006 10:26, Duncan wrote:
> "Diego 'Flameeyes' =?utf-8?q?Petten=C3=B2?=" <flameeyes <at> gentoo.org> posted
> 200610231616.50546 <at> enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org, excerpted below, on
>
>  Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:16:50 +0200:
> > Probably not covered everything, I left Mr_Bones_ and jakub to run a
> > check for me afterward, unfortunately identifying every and all the
> > packages on the first run was pretty impossible -considering also there
> > are packages with unstated dependencies, like two XFCE4 packages- I'll
> > mask and notify about anything else that might come up as soona s they
> > can give me the data.
>
> I don't suppose it's possible to let amarok continue to use all those xmms
> visualizations, is it?  It'd be nice...
>
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> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
> and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
Removing xmms breaks amarok, at least for me.  I had to recompile xine-lib 
without the xmms use flag to get amarok to play music again.

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Alec Warner | 23 Oct 19:04

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Mike Bonar wrote:
> On Monday 23 October 2006 10:26, Duncan wrote:
>> "Diego 'Flameeyes' =?utf-8?q?Petten=C3=B2?=" <flameeyes <at> gentoo.org> posted
>> 200610231616.50546 <at> enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org, excerpted below, on
>>
>>  Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:16:50 +0200:
>>> Probably not covered everything, I left Mr_Bones_ and jakub to run a
>>> check for me afterward, unfortunately identifying every and all the
>>> packages on the first run was pretty impossible -considering also there
>>> are packages with unstated dependencies, like two XFCE4 packages- I'll
>>> mask and notify about anything else that might come up as soona s they
>>> can give me the data.
>> I don't suppose it's possible to let amarok continue to use all those xmms
>> visualizations, is it?  It'd be nice...
>>
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>> Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
>> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
>> and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
> Removing xmms breaks amarok, at least for me.  I had to recompile xine-lib 
> without the xmms use flag to get amarok to play music again.
> 
> Glide

Yes that will happen in many situations; anything that depends on xmms 
libs will need to be rebuilt without them ;)
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò | 23 Oct 11:26

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On Monday 23 October 2006 00:44, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
The following were missing (no RDEPEND on xmms, but builddep)

# These weren't rdepending on xmms at all
media-plugins/xmms-synaesthesia
media-plugins/xmms-ir
x11-plutins/desklet-cornerxmms
media-plugins/mpg123
media-plugins/xmms-crossfade
media-plugins/xmms-nsf
media-plugins/xmms-status-plugin
media-sound/xmmsctrl
x11-plugins/gkrellmms
x11-plugins/wmalbum
x11-plugins/wmusic
x11-plugins/wmxmms
rox-extra/roxmms
media-plugins/xmms-cdaudio
media-plugins/xmms-mpg123
media-plugins/xmms-opengl-spectrum
media-plugins/xmms-vorbis
media-plugins/xmms-alsa
media-plugins/xmms-blur-scope
media-plugins/xmms-disk-writer
media-plugins/xmms-echo
media-plugins/xmms-esd
media-plugins/xmms-joystick
media-plugins/xmms-mikmod
media-plugins/xmms-oss
media-plugins/xmms-sanalyzer
media-plugins/xmms-song-change
media-plugins/xmms-stereo
media-plugins/xmms-tonegen
media-plugins/xmms-voice
media-plugins/xmms-wav
# This is an extra one
media-sound/noxmms

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Harald van Dĳk | 23 Oct 09:45

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On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 12:43:52AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the 
> tree.
> 
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
[...]
> They'll be removed next month... so that I can have my birthday present from 
> Gentoo... getting rid of xmms finally...

What will be done for IUSE=xmms? Should it stay or go? If it should go,
I assume it should not be now (in case someone wants to step up and
maintain xmms), but if not, when?
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò | 23 Oct 10:36

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On Monday 23 October 2006 09:45, Harald van Dĳk wrote:
> What will be done for IUSE=xmms? Should it stay or go? If it should go,
> I assume it should not be now (in case someone wants to step up and
> maintain xmms), but if not, when?
I've currently masked, packages will be upgraded to remove the IUSE when the 
delete is final.

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Josh Saddler | 23 Oct 01:06

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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
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> So, Luis gave up on this, and now it's time againf or removing xmms from the 
> tree.
> 
> I've masked the xmms useflag and the following packages:
> 
> dev-perl/Xmms-Perl
> dev-python/pyxmms
> gnome-extra/gxmms
> media-plugins/dumb-xmms
> media-plugins/efxmms
> media-plugins/eq-xmms
> media-plugins/modplugxmms
> media-plugins/xalbumlist
> media-plugins/xmmplayer
> media-plugins/xmms-adplug
> media-plugins/xmms-alarm
> media-plugins/xmms-arts
> media-plugins/xmms-blursk
> media-plugins/xmms-btexmms
> media-plugins/xmms-cdcover
> media-plugins/xmms-cdread
> media-plugins/xmms-coverviewer
> media-plugins/xmms-crossfade
> media-plugins/xmms-crystality
> media-plugins/xmms-dflowers
> media-plugins/xmms-dscope
> media-plugins/xmms-dspectogram
> media-plugins/xmms-dspectral
> media-plugins/xmms-extra
> media-plugins/xmms-fc
> media-plugins/xmms-find
> media-plugins/xmms-finespectrum
> media-plugins/xmms-fmradio
> media-plugins/xmms-gdancer
> media-plugins/xmms-goom
> media-plugins/xmms-idcin
> media-plugins/xmms-imms
> media-plugins/xmms-infinity
> media-plugins/xmms-infopipe
> media-plugins/xmms-iris
> media-plugins/xmms-itouch
> media-plugins/xmms-jack
> media-plugins/xmms-jess
> media-plugins/xmms-kde
> media-plugins/xmms-kjofol
> media-plugins/xmms-ladspa
> media-plugins/xmms-libvisual
> media-plugins/xmms-lirc
> media-plugins/xmms-liveice
> media-plugins/xmms-liveplugin
> media-plugins/xmms-lyrc
> media-plugins/xmms-mad
> media-plugins/xmms-midi
> media-plugins/xmms-morestate
> media-plugins/xmms-mp3cue
> media-plugins/xmms-musepack
> media-plugins/xmms-nas
> media-plugins/xmms-nebulus
> media-plugins/xmms-null
> media-plugins/xmms-oggre
> media-plugins/xmms-outpost
> media-plugins/xmms-pipe
> media-plugins/xmms-realrandom
> media-plugins/xmms-repeatit
> media-plugins/xmms-scrobbler
> media-plugins/xmms-shell
> media-plugins/xmms-shn
> media-plugins/xmms-sid
> media-plugins/xmms-smpeg
> media-plugins/xmms-sndfile
> media-plugins/xmms-spc
> media-plugins/xmms-speex
> media-plugins/xmms-tfmx
> media-plugins/xmms-volnorm
> media-plugins/xmms-wakeup
> media-plugins/xmms-wma
> media-plugins/xmms-wmdiscotux
> media-plugins/xmms-xf86audio
> media-plugins/xmms-xmmsd
> media-plugins/xmms-xmmsmplayer
> media-sound/ctrlxmms
> media-sound/longplayer
> media-sound/madman
> media-sound/xmms
> x11-plugins/gaim-xmms-remote
> x11-themes/xmms-themes
> 
> They'll be removed next month... so that I can have my birthday present from 
> Gentoo... getting rid of xmms finally...
> 
> Yes this is long overdue...
> 
I think masking is premature; there was never any sort of decision made in the
previous discussion(s) about this.

Stephen Bennett | 23 Oct 01:26

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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:06:00 -0700
Josh Saddler <nightmorph <at> gentoo.org> wrote:

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> I think masking is premature; there was never any sort of decision
> made in the previous discussion(s) about this.

Not really. It should have been gone long ago, but every time someone
took over to save it from its long overdue fate. Just let it die,
rather than hanging around zombie-like in the tree for another eternity.
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Dan Meltzer | 23 Oct 01:28

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On 10/22/06, Josh Saddler <nightmorph <at> gentoo.org> wrote:
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> I think masking is premature; there was never any sort of decision made in the
> previous discussion(s) about this.

Relooking at the discussion, it appears it was quite clear, the sound
herd does not want to maintain it, no one else stepped up, it would be
put in an overlay once it was punted.
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Alec Warner | 23 Oct 01:23

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>>
>> They'll be removed next month... so that I can have my birthday present from 
>> Gentoo... getting rid of xmms finally...
>>
>> Yes this is long overdue...
>>
> I think masking is premature; there was never any sort of decision made in the
> previous discussion(s) about this.

It appears Deigo has made a decision,
What do you think this is, a democracy?

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