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Petteri Räty | 7 Apr 00:00
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Anyone using blackdown-jdk as a browser plugin any more?

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835

At least on x86 it shouldn't be a problem to remove nsplugin use flag
from blackdown-jdk as sun-jdk-1.5 is stable and isn't fetch restricted
any more. But what about amd64 users? Please reply here if you use
nsplugin from blackdown-jdk on amd64 and it works for you and if you
think we shouldn't remove nsplugin support from blackdown-jdk. Removing
nsplugin support from blackdown-jdk would leave the emul-linux-x86-java
as the only package to provide nsplugin support.

Regards,
Petteri
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William L. Thomson Jr. | 7 Apr 01:24
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Re: Anyone using blackdown-jdk as a browser plugin any more?

On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 01:00 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835
> 
> At least on x86 it shouldn't be a problem to remove nsplugin use flag
> from blackdown-jdk as sun-jdk-1.5 is stable and isn't fetch restricted
> any more. But what about amd64 users? Please reply here if you use
> nsplugin from blackdown-jdk on amd64 and it works for you and if you
> think we shouldn't remove nsplugin support from blackdown-jdk. Removing
> nsplugin support from blackdown-jdk would leave the emul-linux-x86-java
> as the only package to provide nsplugin support.

blackdown's nsplugin is crash happy in my experience. There are some
occasions where it's stable, but for most real applets and etc. It just
crashes the browser. The emul-linux-x86-java one is best IMHO.

Along those lines I think the 1.4 emul-linux-x86-java package needs to
ship 1.4 x86 sun instead of blackdown.

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Wiktor Wandachowicz | 8 Apr 19:02
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Re: Anyone using blackdown-jdk as a browser plugin any more?

> blackdown's nsplugin is crash happy in my experience. There are some
> occasions where it's stable, but for most real applets and etc. It just
> crashes the browser.

+1 on this. Plugin crashing the browser was the reason why I tried (with
success!) to install 32-bit sun-jdk-1.4.2 in amd64 installation. See
the forums to read my old "guide" [1].

> The emul-linux-x86-java one is best IMHO.
>
> Along those lines I think the 1.4 emul-linux-x86-java package needs to
> ship 1.4 x86 sun instead of blackdown.

Or somehow allow installation of (already present in portage)
sun-jdk-1.4.2 -- but without allowing it to be a default JVM
(it will never integrate well with 64-bit Firefox, for example).

Regards,
Wiktor Wandachowicz

[1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-416912.html

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Petteri Räty | 7 Apr 01:55
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Re: Anyone using blackdown-jdk as a browser plugin any more?

William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti:
> On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 01:00 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835
>>
>> At least on x86 it shouldn't be a problem to remove nsplugin use flag
>> from blackdown-jdk as sun-jdk-1.5 is stable and isn't fetch restricted
>> any more. But what about amd64 users? Please reply here if you use
>> nsplugin from blackdown-jdk on amd64 and it works for you and if you
>> think we shouldn't remove nsplugin support from blackdown-jdk. Removing
>> nsplugin support from blackdown-jdk would leave the emul-linux-x86-java
>> as the only package to provide nsplugin support.
> 
> blackdown's nsplugin is crash happy in my experience. There are some
> occasions where it's stable, but for most real applets and etc. It just
> crashes the browser. The emul-linux-x86-java one is best IMHO.
> 
> Along those lines I think the 1.4 emul-linux-x86-java package needs to
> ship 1.4 x86 sun instead of blackdown.
> 

The license prevents us from redistributing it...

Regards,
Petteri
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Vlastimil Babka | 9 Apr 18:30
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Re: Anyone using blackdown-jdk as a browser plugin any more?


Petteri Räty wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti:
>> On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 01:00 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835
>>>
>>> At least on x86 it shouldn't be a problem to remove nsplugin use flag
>>> from blackdown-jdk as sun-jdk-1.5 is stable and isn't fetch restricted
>>> any more. But what about amd64 users? Please reply here if you use
>>> nsplugin from blackdown-jdk on amd64 and it works for you and if you
>>> think we shouldn't remove nsplugin support from blackdown-jdk. Removing
>>> nsplugin support from blackdown-jdk would leave the emul-linux-x86-java
>>> as the only package to provide nsplugin support.
>> blackdown's nsplugin is crash happy in my experience. There are some
>> occasions where it's stable, but for most real applets and etc. It just
>> crashes the browser. The emul-linux-x86-java one is best IMHO.
>>
>> Along those lines I think the 1.4 emul-linux-x86-java package needs to
>> ship 1.4 x86 sun instead of blackdown.
>>
> 
> The license prevents us from redistributing it...

Do we need redistributing? Is 1.4 emul now distributed on any media?
"Ship" doesn't mean "fetch" :)

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Greg Tassone | 7 Apr 01:56

Re: Anyone using blackdown-jdk as a browser plugin any more?

On Friday 06 April 2007 16:24, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 01:00 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161835
> >
...
> blackdown's nsplugin is crash happy in my experience. There are some
> occasions where it's stable, but for most real applets and etc. It just
> crashes the browser.

I have to agree.  My experience has been the same, hence I've disabled it 
except for special occasions.  It wouldn't bother me if it were removed.

> The emul-linux-x86-java one is best IMHO.

I haven't played with this one, so I'll give it a try.  Thanks for the tip.

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