Caroline Meeks | 1 Nov 16:50

Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

Ok! I got this to work. thank you Ubuntu developers but talk about screwing in your own seat! 

Is there an easier way to help people create USBs? On SLAX we created a zip file then there was a boot file (2 versions actually one for linux and one for windows) that is run to make the stick bootable:  http://schoolkey.net/wiki/creating-keys

Is there a way I can I copy my USB and make the new one bootable so I don't have to go through the whole process again? 

The USB boots up to Sugar, which is what I want. Is there a way for me to also access the underlying Ubuntu?



Here is my feedback on making the existing directions more friendly.

  1. Download the stock ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso and burn it
Yup, I can do this.
  1. Boot from this CD and from there, use LiveUSB to copy the system to USB stick (use a stick with 1-2 GB capacity as problems have been reported with larger ones)
Ok so when you follow this link you eventually end up at this page.  http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/

Please provide instructions on exactly what to download. I picked liveusb_0.1.1_all.deb
Then also provide instructions on exactly what the user should do to install it.  I fumbled around and eventually it opened, but I couldn't actually tell someone else how to do it.
Then provide instruction on exactly which options to set.  I picked both persistence and flash and the flash ended up giving me an error.
  1. If you use the persistence option, you need to replace casper/initrd.gz on the stick with the bugfixed initrd.gz provided here.
The Casper direction is write protected. Please provide instructions on how to deal with that.
What is this? Why am I doing it?
  1. Add the file sugar.squashfs to the directory casper/ on the USB stick
Again the write protection on Casper made this more of a challenge then might be expected.






On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:19 AM, David Farning <dfarning-agl9EP5VjmEgsBAKwltoeQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a Subuntu live usb.  Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted information on downloading and building the usb at

http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/

Thanks to the Ubuntu SugarTeam for packaging Sugar on Ubuntu and to Probono for building the sugar.squashfs.

David


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Walter Bender | 15 Nov 09:23
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

Trying this new set up for the first time...

> Boot from this CD and from there, use LiveUSB to copy the system to USB
> stick (use a stick with 1-2 GB capacity as problems have been reported with
> larger ones)

I've tried with a 1 GB and a 2 GB USB. In both cases, it complains
that I don't have enough space. Anyone have any experience getting
this to work? Also, creating the USB image was **very** slow.

-walter
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Caroline Meeks | 16 Nov 03:37

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

yes I got this to work on a 1GB USB with a lot of effort.  I find it generally slow to create the USBs.  In general the fastest way to create a new one is to copy it from one USB to another while booted into Linux. However, I don't know if you can do that in Sugar and this particular setup doesn't let you escape out of Sugar back down into Ubuntu as far as I could figure out.

Herea are my notes on how I did it.

Here is my feedback on making the existing directions more friendly.

  1. Download the stock ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso and burn it
Yup, I can do this.
  1. Boot from this CD and from there, use LiveUSB to copy the system to USB stick (use a stick with 1-2 GB capacity as problems have been reported with larger ones)
Ok so when you follow this link you eventually end up at this page.  http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/

Please provide instructions on exactly what to download. I picked liveusb_0.1.1_all.deb
Then also provide instructions on exactly what the user should do to install it.  I fumbled around and eventually it opened, but I couldn't actually tell someone else how to do it.
Then provide instruction on exactly which options to set.  I picked both persistence and flash and the flash ended up giving me an error.
  1. If you use the persistence option, you need to replace casper/initrd.gz on the stick with the bugfixed initrd.gz provided here.
The Casper direction is write protected. Please provide instructions on how to deal with that.
What is this? Why am I doing it?
  1. Add the file sugar.squashfs to the directory casper/ on the USB stick
Again the write protection on Casper made this more of a challenge then might be expected.



On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Trying this new set up for the first time...

> Boot from this CD and from there, use LiveUSB to copy the system to USB
> stick (use a stick with 1-2 GB capacity as problems have been reported with
> larger ones)

I've tried with a 1 GB and a 2 GB USB. In both cases, it complains
that I don't have enough space. Anyone have any experience getting
this to work? Also, creating the USB image was **very** slow.

I got it to work.

 


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David Van Assche | 1 Nov 17:04
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Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

Actually with the advent of intrepid Ibex, and I believe Hardy Heron
too, there is a menu option under System -> Administration that says
create USB startup disk. You choose your iso and choose how much of
the usb stick u want to use for the OS, and hit create startup disk...
dont think it could be simpler...

David Van Assche

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Caroline Meeks
<caroline@...> wrote:
> Ok! I got this to work. thank you Ubuntu developers but talk about screwing
> in your own seat!
>
> Is there an easier way to help people create USBs? On SLAX we created a zip
> file then there was a boot file (2 versions actually one for linux and one
> for windows) that is run to make the stick bootable:
> http://schoolkey.net/wiki/creating-keys
>
> Is there a way I can I copy my USB and make the new one bootable so I don't
> have to go through the whole process again?
>
> The USB boots up to Sugar, which is what I want. Is there a way for me to
> also access the underlying Ubuntu?
>
>
>
> Here is my feedback on making the existing directions more friendly.
>
> Download the stock ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso and burn it
>
> Yup, I can do this.
>
> Boot from this CD and from there, use LiveUSB to copy the system to USB
> stick (use a stick with 1-2 GB capacity as problems have been reported with
> larger ones)
>
> Ok so when you follow this link you eventually end up at this page.
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/
>
> Please provide instructions on exactly what to download. I picked
> liveusb_0.1.1_all.deb
> Then also provide instructions on exactly what the user should do to install
> it.  I fumbled around and eventually it opened, but I couldn't actually tell
> someone else how to do it.
> Then provide instruction on exactly which options to set.  I picked both
> persistence and flash and the flash ended up giving me an error.
>
> If you use the persistence option, you need to replace casper/initrd.gz on
> the stick with the bugfixed initrd.gz provided here.
>
> The Casper direction is write protected. Please provide instructions on how
> to deal with that.
> What is this? Why am I doing it?
>
> Add the file sugar.squashfs to the directory casper/ on the USB stick
>
> Again the write protection on Casper made this more of a challenge then
> might be expected.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:19 AM, David Farning <dfarning@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a
>> Subuntu live usb.  Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted information
>> on downloading and building the usb at
>>
>> http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/
>>
>> Thanks to the Ubuntu SugarTeam for packaging Sugar on Ubuntu and to
>> Probono for building the sugar.squashfs.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sugar mailing list
>> Sugar@...
>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Caroline Meeks
> Solution Grove
> Caroline@...
>
> 617-500-3488 - Office
> 505-213-3268 - Fax
>
> _______________________________________________
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP@...
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>
Caroline Meeks | 1 Nov 17:07

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

Hi David,

I boot up with my USB.
I enter Sugar.
How do I get to "System -> Administration" for Hardy Heron?

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Actually with the advent of intrepid Ibex, and I believe Hardy Heron
too, there is a menu option under System -> Administration that says
create USB startup disk. You choose your iso and choose how much of
the usb stick u want to use for the OS, and hit create startup disk...
dont think it could be simpler...

David Van Assche

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Caroline Meeks
<caroline <at> solutiongrove.com> wrote:
> Ok! I got this to work. thank you Ubuntu developers but talk about screwing
> in your own seat!
>
> Is there an easier way to help people create USBs? On SLAX we created a zip
> file then there was a boot file (2 versions actually one for linux and one
> for windows) that is run to make the stick bootable:
> http://schoolkey.net/wiki/creating-keys
>
> Is there a way I can I copy my USB and make the new one bootable so I don't
> have to go through the whole process again?
>
> The USB boots up to Sugar, which is what I want. Is there a way for me to
> also access the underlying Ubuntu?
>
>
>
> Here is my feedback on making the existing directions more friendly.
>
> Download the stock ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso and burn it
>
> Yup, I can do this.
>
> Boot from this CD and from there, use LiveUSB to copy the system to USB
> stick (use a stick with 1-2 GB capacity as problems have been reported with
> larger ones)
>
> Ok so when you follow this link you eventually end up at this page.
> http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/
>
> Please provide instructions on exactly what to download. I picked
> liveusb_0.1.1_all.deb
> Then also provide instructions on exactly what the user should do to install
> it.  I fumbled around and eventually it opened, but I couldn't actually tell
> someone else how to do it.
> Then provide instruction on exactly which options to set.  I picked both
> persistence and flash and the flash ended up giving me an error.
>
> If you use the persistence option, you need to replace casper/initrd.gz on
> the stick with the bugfixed initrd.gz provided here.
>
> The Casper direction is write protected. Please provide instructions on how
> to deal with that.
> What is this? Why am I doing it?
>
> Add the file sugar.squashfs to the directory casper/ on the USB stick
>
> Again the write protection on Casper made this more of a challenge then
> might be expected.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:19 AM, David Farning <dfarning <at> sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a
>> Subuntu live usb.  Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted information
>> on downloading and building the usb at
>>
>> http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/
>>
>> Thanks to the Ubuntu SugarTeam for packaging Sugar on Ubuntu and to
>> Probono for building the sugar.squashfs.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sugar mailing list
>> Sugar <at> lists.laptop.org
>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Caroline Meeks
> Solution Grove
> Caroline <at> SolutionGrove.com
>
> 617-500-3488 - Office
> 505-213-3268 - Fax
>
> _______________________________________________
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP <at> lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>



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Walter Bender | 1 Nov 17:28
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Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

I never seen it on Hardy.

-walter

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Caroline Meeks
<caroline@...> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> I boot up with my USB.
> I enter Sugar.
> How do I get to "System -> Administration" for Hardy Heron?
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> Actually with the advent of intrepid Ibex, and I believe Hardy Heron
>> too, there is a menu option under System -> Administration that says
>> create USB startup disk. You choose your iso and choose how much of
>> the usb stick u want to use for the OS, and hit create startup disk...
>> dont think it could be simpler...
>>
>> David Van Assche
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Caroline Meeks
>> <caroline@...> wrote:
>> > Ok! I got this to work. thank you Ubuntu developers but talk about
>> > screwing
>> > in your own seat!
>> >
>> > Is there an easier way to help people create USBs? On SLAX we created a
>> > zip
>> > file then there was a boot file (2 versions actually one for linux and
>> > one
>> > for windows) that is run to make the stick bootable:
>> > http://schoolkey.net/wiki/creating-keys
>> >
>> > Is there a way I can I copy my USB and make the new one bootable so I
>> > don't
>> > have to go through the whole process again?
>> >
>> > The USB boots up to Sugar, which is what I want. Is there a way for me
>> > to
>> > also access the underlying Ubuntu?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Here is my feedback on making the existing directions more friendly.
>> >
>> > Download the stock ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso and burn it
>> >
>> > Yup, I can do this.
>> >
>> > Boot from this CD and from there, use LiveUSB to copy the system to USB
>> > stick (use a stick with 1-2 GB capacity as problems have been reported
>> > with
>> > larger ones)
>> >
>> > Ok so when you follow this link you eventually end up at this page.
>> > http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/
>> >
>> > Please provide instructions on exactly what to download. I picked
>> > liveusb_0.1.1_all.deb
>> > Then also provide instructions on exactly what the user should do to
>> > install
>> > it.  I fumbled around and eventually it opened, but I couldn't actually
>> > tell
>> > someone else how to do it.
>> > Then provide instruction on exactly which options to set.  I picked both
>> > persistence and flash and the flash ended up giving me an error.
>> >
>> > If you use the persistence option, you need to replace casper/initrd.gz
>> > on
>> > the stick with the bugfixed initrd.gz provided here.
>> >
>> > The Casper direction is write protected. Please provide instructions on
>> > how
>> > to deal with that.
>> > What is this? Why am I doing it?
>> >
>> > Add the file sugar.squashfs to the directory casper/ on the USB stick
>> >
>> > Again the write protection on Casper made this more of a challenge then
>> > might be expected.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:19 AM, David Farning <dfarning@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a
>> >> Subuntu live usb.  Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted
>> >> information
>> >> on downloading and building the usb at
>> >>
>> >> http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/
>> >>
>> >> Thanks to the Ubuntu SugarTeam for packaging Sugar on Ubuntu and to
>> >> Probono for building the sugar.squashfs.
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Sugar mailing list
>> >> Sugar@...
>> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Caroline Meeks
>> > Solution Grove
>> > Caroline@...
>> >
>> > 617-500-3488 - Office
>> > 505-213-3268 - Fax
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> > IAEP@...
>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>> >
>
>
>
> --
> Caroline Meeks
> Solution Grove
> Caroline@...
>
> 617-500-3488 - Office
> 505-213-3268 - Fax
>
> _______________________________________________
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP@...
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>

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David Van Assche | 1 Nov 20:21
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Re: [sugar] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

You are correct, its only for Intrepid... but its cool and easy never
the less :-) and intrepid is out now, so now's a good a time as any to
upgrade...

David

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Walter Bender
<walter.bender@...> wrote:
> I never seen it on Hardy.
>
> -walter
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Caroline Meeks
> <caroline@...> wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I boot up with my USB.
>> I enter Sugar.
>> How do I get to "System -> Administration" for Hardy Heron?
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually with the advent of intrepid Ibex, and I believe Hardy Heron
>>> too, there is a menu option under System -> Administration that says
>>> create USB startup disk. You choose your iso and choose how much of
>>> the usb stick u want to use for the OS, and hit create startup disk...
>>> dont think it could be simpler...
>>>
>>> David Van Assche
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Caroline Meeks
>>> <caroline@...> wrote:
>>> > Ok! I got this to work. thank you Ubuntu developers but talk about
>>> > screwing
>>> > in your own seat!
>>> >
>>> > Is there an easier way to help people create USBs? On SLAX we created a
>>> > zip
>>> > file then there was a boot file (2 versions actually one for linux and
>>> > one
>>> > for windows) that is run to make the stick bootable:
>>> > http://schoolkey.net/wiki/creating-keys
>>> >
>>> > Is there a way I can I copy my USB and make the new one bootable so I
>>> > don't
>>> > have to go through the whole process again?
>>> >
>>> > The USB boots up to Sugar, which is what I want. Is there a way for me
>>> > to
>>> > also access the underlying Ubuntu?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Here is my feedback on making the existing directions more friendly.
>>> >
>>> > Download the stock ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso and burn it
>>> >
>>> > Yup, I can do this.
>>> >
>>> > Boot from this CD and from there, use LiveUSB to copy the system to USB
>>> > stick (use a stick with 1-2 GB capacity as problems have been reported
>>> > with
>>> > larger ones)
>>> >
>>> > Ok so when you follow this link you eventually end up at this page.
>>> > http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/
>>> >
>>> > Please provide instructions on exactly what to download. I picked
>>> > liveusb_0.1.1_all.deb
>>> > Then also provide instructions on exactly what the user should do to
>>> > install
>>> > it.  I fumbled around and eventually it opened, but I couldn't actually
>>> > tell
>>> > someone else how to do it.
>>> > Then provide instruction on exactly which options to set.  I picked both
>>> > persistence and flash and the flash ended up giving me an error.
>>> >
>>> > If you use the persistence option, you need to replace casper/initrd.gz
>>> > on
>>> > the stick with the bugfixed initrd.gz provided here.
>>> >
>>> > The Casper direction is write protected. Please provide instructions on
>>> > how
>>> > to deal with that.
>>> > What is this? Why am I doing it?
>>> >
>>> > Add the file sugar.squashfs to the directory casper/ on the USB stick
>>> >
>>> > Again the write protection on Casper made this more of a challenge then
>>> > might be expected.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:19 AM, David Farning <dfarning@...>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It looks like our friends at Ubuntu have been hard at work building a
>>> >> Subuntu live usb.  Simon Peter, also know as probono, has posted
>>> >> information
>>> >> on downloading and building the usb at
>>> >>
>>> >> http://dev.laptop.org/~probono/sbuntu/
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks to the Ubuntu SugarTeam for packaging Sugar on Ubuntu and to
>>> >> Probono for building the sugar.squashfs.
>>> >>
>>> >> David
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Sugar mailing list
>>> >> Sugar@...
>>> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Caroline Meeks
>>> > Solution Grove
>>> > Caroline@...
>>> >
>>> > 617-500-3488 - Office
>>> > 505-213-3268 - Fax
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>> > IAEP@...
>>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Caroline Meeks
>> Solution Grove
>> Caroline@...
>>
>> 617-500-3488 - Office
>> 505-213-3268 - Fax
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> IAEP@...
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>
Morgan Collett | 3 Nov 13:41
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Ubuntu LiveUSB is ready

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 21:21, David Van Assche <dvanassche <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> You are correct, its only for Intrepid... but its cool and easy never
> the less :-) and intrepid is out now, so now's a good a time as any to
> upgrade...
>
> David
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> I never seen it on Hardy.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Caroline Meeks
>> <caroline <at> solutiongrove.com> wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> I boot up with my USB.
>>> I enter Sugar.
>>> How do I get to "System -> Administration" for Hardy Heron?

As pointed out it's in Intrepid, but also this "Create a USB Startup
Disk" is in the GNOME desktop, not within Sugar.

Regards
Morgan

>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche <at> gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually with the advent of intrepid Ibex, and I believe Hardy Heron
>>>> too, there is a menu option under System -> Administration that says
>>>> create USB startup disk. You choose your iso and choose how much of
>>>> the usb stick u want to use for the OS, and hit create startup disk...
>>>> dont think it could be simpler...
>>>>
>>>> David Van Assche
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Caroline Meeks
>>>> <caroline <at> solutiongrove.com> wrote:
>>>> > Ok! I got this to work. thank you Ubuntu developers but talk about
>>>> > screwing
>>>> > in your own seat!
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there an easier way to help people create USBs? On SLAX we created a

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