Re: What our customers want from Android

On 31 January 2012 21:17, Zach Pfeffer <zach.pfeffer@...> wrote:
> On 31 January 2012 15:01, Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@...> wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
>>
>>> On 31 January 2012 11:19, Nicolas Pitre
<nicolas.pitre@...> wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 31 Jan 2012, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> They love our builds, but they'd really like it if they could get
>>> >> stock AOSP builds for their boards on stable kernels that they can
>>> >> work with using fastboot that have been CI tested and QA'd.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm not advocating for the wholesale destruction of our current way of
>>> >> life, tip kernels, tip toolchains, linaro-android-media-create, but I
>>> >> would like to move in a direction that gives our users what they want.
>>> >
>>> > And by the time you do that i.e. stable kernel and so on, then those
>>> > customers will come back asking for this and that new cool feature
>>> > available in the latest upstream kernel and ask you to backport it to
>>> > your stable kernel.
>>>
>>> Nico, you bring up a good point. Consolidating and upstreaming core
>>> ARM features that exist across each architecture is our main job.
>>>
>>> The customer ask remains the same though. If we deliver a platform
>>> with a set of features, customers don't want any of those features to
>>> break when we give them an upgrade.
>>
>> You just can't have it both ways.  If you focus on a stable platform
>> then you cannot have the latest features.  If you develop new features,