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(GalaxyMaster | 26 Mar 06:07

named SysV order seems to be wrong

Hello,

I'd like to point out that it doesn't look right:

peach!root:~# ls -ld /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S*{syslog,named}
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Feb 25  2006 /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S20named -> ../init.d/named
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Oct 25  2005 /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S30syslog -> ../init.d/syslog
peach!root:~#

I think that the syslog service should be started prior any other
service which wants to use syslog.  Is this a bug or am I missing
something?

P.S. I haven't checked the current branch but I believe that the order
is the same as in Owl 2.0-stable which I'm actively using lately (as you
might already noticed :) )

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Dmitry V. Levin | 26 Mar 13:37

Re: named SysV order seems to be wrong

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 08:08:18AM +0300, (GalaxyMaster) wrote:
> I'd like to point out that it doesn't look right:
> 
> peach!root:~# ls -ld /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S*{syslog,named}
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Feb 25  2006 /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S20named -> ../init.d/named
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Oct 25  2005 /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S30syslog -> ../init.d/syslog
> peach!root:~#
> 
> I think that the syslog service should be started prior any other
> service which wants to use syslog.  Is this a bug or am I missing
> something?

Unless syslog.conf uses remote host names, yes, the "syslog" service
could be started prior to the "bind" service.

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Andrey V Stolyarov | 26 Mar 14:01

Re: named SysV order seems to be wrong

Hi all,

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Dmitry V. Levin wrote:

> Hi,
>
[...]
>
> Unless syslog.conf uses remote host names, yes, the "syslog" service
> could be started prior to the "bind" service.

I'd say that even in case syslog.conf does use remote host names,
such names should (hmm, may I say "must"?) be explicitly
mentioned in /etc/hosts. Named is good and more or less stable,
but it crashes from time to time, there can be various
human mistakes that lead to unavailability of some DNS zones,
etc. Logging is the thing which should never be dependent on
these. IMHO.

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