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dann frazier | 8 Feb 15:33

decommissioning parisc-linux.org

As Paul noted[1], parisc-linux.org was running a vulnerable
apache which got the attention of HP's security audit team. I've been
doing most of the maintenance of the OS on this machine for a while,
but that has just meant apt-get upgrading when cron-apt told me to for
a few years. Turns out apache-ssl was obsolete (an etch version!), so
no amount of upgrading was going to fix that.

At this point I've removed apache-ssl. I tried installing apache2 to
see if any web pages would magically work - it didn't, so right now
the website is 404 farm :( I didn't spend much time trying to handle
that since.....

parisc-linux.org is running the last stable release of Debian that
supported hppa ('lenny'), and its life is now expired. As such, I
think we really need to migrate the site to another maintained
distribution and/or architecture. I'm willing to help migrate services
for the next month or so - let's just say 2012.03.14 for a good round
(heh) date - after which I plan to halt this system and let HP know
the hardware can be put to other uses. From what I can tell, we
originally installed this system almost exactly 9 years ago - ah,
rememember its predecessor dsl2? Good times. Anyway -

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*** If you need any data off this machine, now's the time to grab it! ***
*************************************************************************

If you'd like to take over longterm hosting the website/domain, please
get in touch with taggart or I. If you'd like to continue using the
machine and/or HP's network to do the hosting, I can probably find a
contact for you there - though I wouldn't bet on it.

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Thibaut VARENE | 8 Feb 23:16

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 PM, dann frazier <dannf <at> dannf.org> wrote:
> As Paul noted[1], parisc-linux.org was running a vulnerable
> apache which got the attention of HP's security audit team. I've been
> doing most of the maintenance of the OS on this machine for a while,
> but that has just meant apt-get upgrading when cron-apt told me to for
> a few years. Turns out apache-ssl was obsolete (an etch version!), so
> no amount of upgrading was going to fix that.
>
> At this point I've removed apache-ssl. I tried installing apache2 to
> see if any web pages would magically work - it didn't, so right now
> the website is 404 farm :( I didn't spend much time trying to handle
> that since.....
>
> parisc-linux.org is running the last stable release of Debian that
> supported hppa ('lenny'), and its life is now expired. As such, I
> think we really need to migrate the site to another maintained
> distribution and/or architecture. I'm willing to help migrate services
> for the next month or so - let's just say 2012.03.14 for a good round
> (heh) date - after which I plan to halt this system and let HP know
> the hardware can be put to other uses. From what I can tell, we
> originally installed this system almost exactly 9 years ago - ah,
> rememember its predecessor dsl2? Good times. Anyway -
>
> *************************************************************************
> *** If you need any data off this machine, now's the time to grab it! ***
> *************************************************************************
>
> If you'd like to take over longterm hosting the website/domain, please
> get in touch with taggart or I. If you'd like to continue using the
> machine and/or HP's network to do the hosting, I can probably find a

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John David Anglin | 9 Feb 00:47

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On 8-Feb-12, at 5:16 PM, Thibaut VARENE wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 PM, dann frazier <dannf <at> dannf.org> wrote:
>> As Paul noted[1], parisc-linux.org was running a vulnerable
>> apache which got the attention of HP's security audit team. I've been
>> doing most of the maintenance of the OS on this machine for a while,
>> but that has just meant apt-get upgrading when cron-apt told me to  
>> for
>> a few years. Turns out apache-ssl was obsolete (an etch version!), so
>> no amount of upgrading was going to fix that.
>>
>> At this point I've removed apache-ssl. I tried installing apache2 to
>> see if any web pages would magically work - it didn't, so right now
>> the website is 404 farm :( I didn't spend much time trying to handle
>> that since.....
>>
>> parisc-linux.org is running the last stable release of Debian that
>> supported hppa ('lenny'), and its life is now expired. As such, I
>> think we really need to migrate the site to another maintained
>> distribution and/or architecture. I'm willing to help migrate  
>> services
>> for the next month or so - let's just say 2012.03.14 for a good round
>> (heh) date - after which I plan to halt this system and let HP know
>> the hardware can be put to other uses. From what I can tell, we
>> originally installed this system almost exactly 9 years ago - ah,
>> rememember its predecessor dsl2? Good times. Anyway -
>>
>> *************************************************************************
>> *** If you need any data off this machine, now's the time to grab  
>> it! ***

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John David Anglin | 9 Feb 02:53

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On 8-Feb-12, at 6:47 PM, John David Anglin wrote:

> I am willing to try to build apache2 from unstable.

I have uploaded hppa apache2 2.2.22-1 debs to my archives-new directory
on shirka.esiee.fr.

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John David Anglin | 9 Feb 15:54

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On 2/8/2012 8:53 PM, John David Anglin wrote:
> On 8-Feb-12, at 6:47 PM, John David Anglin wrote:
>
>> I am willing to try to build apache2 from unstable.
>
> I have uploaded hppa apache2 2.2.22-1 debs to my archives-new directory
> on shirka.esiee.fr.
I uploaded the latest apr debs this morning.

Dave

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Paul Bame | 9 Feb 16:41

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 09:54:39AM -0500, John David Anglin wrote:
> On 2/8/2012 8:53 PM, John David Anglin wrote:
> >On 8-Feb-12, at 6:47 PM, John David Anglin wrote:
> >
> >>I am willing to try to build apache2 from unstable.
> >
> >I have uploaded hppa apache2 2.2.22-1 debs to my archives-new directory
> >on shirka.esiee.fr.
> I uploaded the latest apr debs this morning.

We have a good enough apache2 installed already from the lenny
security repo, but it isn't configured to play nice with the existing
web pages.  Anybody interested in doing that?

	-p
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dann frazier | 9 Feb 18:55

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 06:47:45PM -0500, John David Anglin wrote:
> On 8-Feb-12, at 5:16 PM, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 PM, dann frazier <dannf <at> dannf.org> wrote:
> >>As Paul noted[1], parisc-linux.org was running a vulnerable
> >>apache which got the attention of HP's security audit team. I've been
> >>doing most of the maintenance of the OS on this machine for a while,
> >>but that has just meant apt-get upgrading when cron-apt told me
> >>to for
> >>a few years. Turns out apache-ssl was obsolete (an etch version!), so
> >>no amount of upgrading was going to fix that.
> >>
> >>At this point I've removed apache-ssl. I tried installing apache2 to
> >>see if any web pages would magically work - it didn't, so right now
> >>the website is 404 farm :( I didn't spend much time trying to handle
> >>that since.....
> >>
> >>parisc-linux.org is running the last stable release of Debian that
> >>supported hppa ('lenny'), and its life is now expired. As such, I
> >>think we really need to migrate the site to another maintained
> >>distribution and/or architecture. I'm willing to help migrate
> >>services
> >>for the next month or so - let's just say 2012.03.14 for a good round
> >>(heh) date - after which I plan to halt this system and let HP know
> >>the hardware can be put to other uses. From what I can tell, we
> >>originally installed this system almost exactly 9 years ago - ah,
> >>rememember its predecessor dsl2? Good times. Anyway -
> >>
> >>*************************************************************************
> >>*** If you need any data off this machine, now's the time to

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John David Anglin | 11 Feb 20:11

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On 9-Feb-12, at 12:55 PM, dann frazier wrote:

> Well, we have apache2 installed from lenny now - it just isn't serving
> anything useful :)
>

I don't know much about about web page setup, so I can't be much
help for this.

>> I believe it would be useful to keep the site going until we see if
>> restarting buildd will
>> fly or not given the current level of improvement.
>
> I am supportive of the site continuing to self-host, and I realize
> that means it needs to run devel bits. But, there's two separate
> issues I see there.
>
> 1) We need to bridge the gap between now and then. Even if we had a
>    buildd online today, just grinding through the necessary backlog
>    would take weeks.

Yes, I have been working on bridging the gap manually since last
summer.  I now have 5829 debs in my unstable archive.  Generally, things
have gotten easier as system stability has improved and bugs were
fixed.  It is a big job but I've done it in my spare time.

> 2) I won't have time to be the principle admin for a system running
>    unstable. I'm happy to help here & there, and w/ whatever
>    transition ends up happening, but things like manually
>    patching/fixing kernels, monitoring security updates and how they

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Thibaut VARENE | 11 Feb 23:12

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:11 PM, John David Anglin <dave.anglin <at> bell.net> wrote:
> On 9-Feb-12, at 12:55 PM, dann frazier wrote:

>> 2) I won't have time to be the principle admin for a system running
>>   unstable. I'm happy to help here & there, and w/ whatever
>>   transition ends up happening, but things like manually
>>   patching/fixing kernels, monitoring security updates and how they
>>   impact our bits, etc. Its a lot of work just for managing a single
>>   host.
>>
>> For 1) I think the right answer is to move services to a new
>> stable/secure host for the time being and shut the existing machine
>> down. We can retain the option of moving things back once the unstable
>> port is in full force. As a side benefit, such a migration should also
>> help get the existing services running w/ newer packages
>> (e.g. apache2) and allow us cleanly transition services over w/
>> minimal downtime (demonstrate a working system first, then update DNS
>> records). Who knows how painful it will be to go from pre-lenny to sid
>> all at once.
>>
>> 2) can be solved by moving the domain to someone else's
>> infrastructure, or having a trusted volunteer to be the primary
>> admin for the system.
>
>
>
> I need to update a few more packages before magnum is ready for buildd.
>
> Thibaut offered to setup the buildd but doesn't have a lot of free time.
>  I'm

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John David Anglin | 11 Feb 23:41

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On 11-Feb-12, at 5:12 PM, Thibaut VARENE wrote:

> Erm, it appears I didn't make myself clear: I'm willing to provide the
> /hardware/ for buildd setup, but I certainly do not have time to tend
> to routine buildd maintenance, as I've mentioned already. I understood
> that at some point Carlos wanted to handle that part, but from what I
> gather, he's also busy so it's probably not happening. I agree we need
> someone to take care of the buildds, but I'm afraid it cannot be me.

I understand.  I'm willing to take care of the buildds, and do whatever
porting and patches that need doing as I can.  What I meant is that
you have to be in charge of system security as impacts the cluster
as a whole.  In particular, I think you will have to be involved in the
firewall setup.

I wasn't asking you to support the general system updates or buildd  
maintenance.

I will try to setup the autobuilders and hopefully Dann can answer any
questions that might arise.  The big question is the is the upload  
process
which I'm totally unfamiliar with.  There is also the security updates.

I don't know how busy Carlos is at the moment and whether he is still  
interested
in helping.  I know he gets impossible projects from time to time.

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Thibaut VARENE | 12 Feb 00:26

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:41 PM, John David Anglin
<dave.anglin <at> bell.net> wrote:
> On 11-Feb-12, at 5:12 PM, Thibaut VARENE wrote:

> I understand.  I'm willing to take care of the buildds, and do whatever
> porting and patches that need doing as I can.  What I meant is that
> you have to be in charge of system security as impacts the cluster
> as a whole.  In particular, I think you will have to be involved in the
> firewall setup.

Oh sure, no problem with that. I'd need some info as to what are the
needed services on the machine tho. My default firewall policy is
INPUT: DROP 

Besides the firewall / access control, I think the only important
thing to take care of is MX configuration (ISTR buildds need a working
MX to function) so that the machine doesn't become an open-relay that
would put ESIEE's subnet onto the DNSBLs...

> I wasn't asking you to support the general system updates or buildd
> maintenance.

Roger that.

Cheers,
T-Bone

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Carlos O'Donell | 12 Feb 00:29

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:41 PM, John David Anglin <dave.anglin <at> bell.net> wrote:
> I don't know how busy Carlos is at the moment and whether he is still
> interested in helping.  I know he gets impossible projects from time to time.

Unfortunately I'm *very* busy right now.

However, I will continue to do all the work required to keep HPPA
working in glibc.

Please keep me in the loop and I'll try to help out whenever I can 

Cheers,
Carlos.
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John David Anglin | 12 Feb 01:25

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On 11-Feb-12, at 6:29 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:

> However, I will continue to do all the work required to keep HPPA
> working in glibc.

Here is what needs doing in glibc:

         * need to backport current 2.13 patches to debian
         * change build to gcc-4.6
         * update test failure list, or disable so package builds
         * broken password and group caching -- I disabled it in nscd  
conf

I believe that that I sent the patches for 2.13.  They are based on what
you sent me plus Guy's patch.  If you want, I'll send them again.
It looks to me like the next debian release will be based on 2.13.

gcc-4.6 is now the default compiler for unstable although glibc still
builds with 4.4.  I believe 4.6 is better than 4.4 based on my testing.

A more complicated issue is the multiarch support in unstable.  For
testing, it may be necessary to use current or 2.22 branch binutils,
gcc with multiarch support, and a glibc build with multiarch support.
debs are in the archives directory on shirka.esiee.fr.  If you don't
want to bother updating your a500, magnum on the esiee cluster
is updated.

My latest kernel patch posted to the parisc list resolves thread
issues for git, perl, python, etc.  There are still some cancellation
failures in the glibc testsuite, but I think the overall number of fails

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dann frazier | 14 Feb 19:05

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 02:11:30PM -0500, John David Anglin wrote:
> On 9-Feb-12, at 12:55 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> 
> >Well, we have apache2 installed from lenny now - it just isn't serving
> >anything useful :)
> >
> 
> I don't know much about about web page setup, so I can't be much
> help for this.
> 
> >>I believe it would be useful to keep the site going until we see if
> >>restarting buildd will
> >>fly or not given the current level of improvement.
> >
> >I am supportive of the site continuing to self-host, and I realize
> >that means it needs to run devel bits. But, there's two separate
> >issues I see there.
> >
> >1) We need to bridge the gap between now and then. Even if we had a
> >   buildd online today, just grinding through the necessary backlog
> >   would take weeks.
> 
> Yes, I have been working on bridging the gap manually since last
> summer.  I now have 5829 debs in my unstable archive.  Generally, things
> have gotten easier as system stability has improved and bugs were
> fixed.  It is a big job but I've done it in my spare time.
> 
> >2) I won't have time to be the principle admin for a system running
> >   unstable. I'm happy to help here & there, and w/ whatever
> >   transition ends up happening, but things like manually

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Thibaut VARENE | 14 Feb 19:31

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:05 PM, dann frazier <dannf <at> dannf.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 02:11:30PM -0500, John David Anglin wrote:
>> On 9-Feb-12, at 12:55 PM, dann frazier wrote:

>> >For 1) I think the right answer is to move services to a new
>> >stable/secure host for the time being and shut the existing machine
>> >down. We can retain the option of moving things back once the unstable
>> >port is in full force. As a side benefit, such a migration should also
>> >help get the existing services running w/ newer packages
>> >(e.g. apache2) and allow us cleanly transition services over w/
>> >minimal downtime (demonstrate a working system first, then update DNS
>> >records). Who knows how painful it will be to go from pre-lenny to sid
>> >all at once.
>> >
>> >2) can be solved by moving the domain to someone else's
>> >infrastructure, or having a trusted volunteer to be the primary
>> >admin for the system.
>>
>>
>> I need to update a few more packages before magnum is ready for buildd.
>>
>> Thibaut offered to setup the buildd but doesn't have a lot of free
>> time.  I'm
>> willing to do general system admin and monitoring the build system,
>> but Thibaut  has to be in charge.  I'm hoping that Carlos is still
>> willing to help
>> with uploads, and to try to get his current patches into the debian
>> eglibc 2.13
>> patch set.  Otherwise, we may have to have a separate patch set.
>>

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Carlos O'Donell | 14 Feb 19:33

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Thibaut VARENE <T-Bone <at> parisc-linux.org> wrote:
> It looks to me like this burden clearly outweighs the benefits of
> being selfhosted, so maybe the right move is to use a supported
> architecture for hosting the website? Given the "audience" for
> linux-parisc, I don't think it would make a significant difference...

I tend to agree. Use the right tool for the right job.

Fun hacking = HPPA.

Serve the website = x86.

Cheers,
Carlos.
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dann frazier | 9 Feb 18:56

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 11:16:16PM +0100, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 PM, dann frazier <dannf <at> dannf.org> wrote:
> > As Paul noted[1], parisc-linux.org was running a vulnerable
> > apache which got the attention of HP's security audit team. I've been
> > doing most of the maintenance of the OS on this machine for a while,
> > but that has just meant apt-get upgrading when cron-apt told me to for
> > a few years. Turns out apache-ssl was obsolete (an etch version!), so
> > no amount of upgrading was going to fix that.
> >
> > At this point I've removed apache-ssl. I tried installing apache2 to
> > see if any web pages would magically work - it didn't, so right now
> > the website is 404 farm :( I didn't spend much time trying to handle
> > that since.....
> >
> > parisc-linux.org is running the last stable release of Debian that
> > supported hppa ('lenny'), and its life is now expired. As such, I
> > think we really need to migrate the site to another maintained
> > distribution and/or architecture. I'm willing to help migrate services
> > for the next month or so - let's just say 2012.03.14 for a good round
> > (heh) date - after which I plan to halt this system and let HP know
> > the hardware can be put to other uses. From what I can tell, we
> > originally installed this system almost exactly 9 years ago - ah,
> > rememember its predecessor dsl2? Good times. Anyway -
> >
> > *************************************************************************
> > *** If you need any data off this machine, now's the time to grab it! ***
> > *************************************************************************
> >
> > If you'd like to take over longterm hosting the website/domain, please
> > get in touch with taggart or I. If you'd like to continue using the

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Martin K. Petersen | 9 Feb 20:18

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

>>>>> "Dann" == dann frazier <dannf <at> dannf.org> writes:

>> What's the status of @p-l.o email addresses? I'm receiving a fair bit
>> of email on this domain, and I think others do too, if we need to
>> move on elsewhere it'd be nice to have a little headstart... ;)

Dann> My assumption is that mail will follow the domain.

I would like something to be done with the mail situation. It totally
sucks being secondary mx since I get to deal with all the spam bounces
and blacklistings.

We can either move mail forwarding to my machine wholesale so I can fix
things or we can leave it on palinux and discontinue having me as
secondary. I'm happy either way.

I'm also happy to continue providing DNS. I would like the ability to
update the zone files, though. I would have fixed the mail problems long
ago if I could...

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dann frazier | 9 Feb 21:49

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:18:21PM -0500, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
> >>>>> "Dann" == dann frazier <dannf <at> dannf.org> writes:
> 
> >> What's the status of @p-l.o email addresses? I'm receiving a fair bit
> >> of email on this domain, and I think others do too, if we need to
> >> move on elsewhere it'd be nice to have a little headstart... ;)
> 
> Dann> My assumption is that mail will follow the domain.
> 
> I would like something to be done with the mail situation. It totally
> sucks being secondary mx since I get to deal with all the spam bounces
> and blacklistings.
> 
> We can either move mail forwarding to my machine wholesale so I can fix
> things or we can leave it on palinux and discontinue having me as
> secondary. I'm happy either way.

Well, my vote is that we take you up on that offer and move it to you,
at least while things are in flux. Only problem I see  is that some
people don't forward their mail off of palinux, but its probably a
good idea to deprecate that RSN.

> I'm also happy to continue providing DNS. I would like the ability to
> update the zone files, though. I would have fixed the mail problems long
> ago if I could...

I don't see any reason we wouldn't let you take over even primary if
you wanted to. Frankly, I'm surprised we hadn't given you whatever
privs you needed already - really just seems like an oversight on our
part, my apologies.

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James Bottomley | 12 Feb 15:38

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 07:33 -0700, dann frazier wrote:
> In the meantime, if anyone wants to get the website working on apache2
> for the remainder of the system's lifetime, please let me know.
> 
I can probably do that.  At least the static part, since I run a bunch
of apache 2 websites on my hosted system.

I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
entirely functional yet.

James

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James Bottomley | 12 Feb 15:49

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:38 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 07:33 -0700, dann frazier wrote:
> > In the meantime, if anyone wants to get the website working on apache2
> > for the remainder of the system's lifetime, please let me know.
> > 
> I can probably do that.  At least the static part, since I run a bunch
> of apache 2 websites on my hosted system.
> 
> I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
> scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
> entirely functional yet.

OK, done and up.

it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...

James

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James Bottomley | 12 Feb 21:01

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:49 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:38 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 07:33 -0700, dann frazier wrote:
> > > In the meantime, if anyone wants to get the website working on apache2
> > > for the remainder of the system's lifetime, please let me know.
> > > 
> > I can probably do that.  At least the static part, since I run a bunch
> > of apache 2 websites on my hosted system.
> > 
> > I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
> > scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
> > entirely functional yet.
> 
> OK, done and up.
> 
> it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...

I think I'm done.  I've got the three sites
{www,ftp,hwdb}.parisc-linux.org up and running.  There aren't any more,
are there (wiki seems to be eisee)?  Could someone also check the links
to see that nothing's broken.

Thanks,

James

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Carlos O'Donell | 12 Feb 23:47

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:01 PM, James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley <at> hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:49 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
>> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:38 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 07:33 -0700, dann frazier wrote:
>> > > In the meantime, if anyone wants to get the website working on apache2
>> > > for the remainder of the system's lifetime, please let me know.
>> > >
>> > I can probably do that.  At least the static part, since I run a bunch
>> > of apache 2 websites on my hosted system.
>> >
>> > I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
>> > scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
>> > entirely functional yet.
>>
>> OK, done and up.
>>
>> it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...
>
> I think I'm done.  I've got the three sites
> {www,ftp,hwdb}.parisc-linux.org up and running.  There aren't any more,
> are there (wiki seems to be eisee)?  Could someone also check the links
> to see that nothing's broken.

I did a quick check and everything seems to be working!

Thanks!

Cheers,
Carlos.

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John David Anglin | 12 Feb 23:56

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On 12-Feb-12, at 5:47 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:01 PM, James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley <at> hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:49 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:38 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 07:33 -0700, dann frazier wrote:
>>>>> In the meantime, if anyone wants to get the website working on  
>>>>> apache2
>>>>> for the remainder of the system's lifetime, please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>> I can probably do that.  At least the static part, since I run a  
>>>> bunch
>>>> of apache 2 websites on my hosted system.
>>>>
>>>> I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server  
>>>> side
>>>> scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
>>>> entirely functional yet.
>>>
>>> OK, done and up.
>>>
>>> it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...
>>
>> I think I'm done.  I've got the three sites
>> {www,ftp,hwdb}.parisc-linux.org up and running.  There aren't any  
>> more,
>> are there (wiki seems to be eisee)?  Could someone also check the  
>> links
>> to see that nothing's broken.

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Carlos O'Donell | 13 Feb 03:22

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:56 PM, John David Anglin <dave.anglin <at> bell.net> wrote:
> Fantastic!  Deserves a note on PA-RISC news.

OK, I've checked in an update to index.x with a new news entry, however...

I'm not part of the webadmin group and therefore I can't update the website.

Cheers,
Carlos.
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James Bottomley | 13 Feb 06:20

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 21:22 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:56 PM, John David Anglin <dave.anglin <at> bell.net> wrote:
> > Fantastic!  Deserves a note on PA-RISC news.
> 
> OK, I've checked in an update to index.x with a new news entry, however...
> 
> I'm not part of the webadmin group and therefore I can't update the website.

You are now.

James

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Carlos O'Donell | 13 Feb 23:26

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:56 PM, John David Anglin <dave.anglin <at> bell.net> wrote:
>> I did a quick check and everything seems to be working!
>
> Fantastic!  Deserves a note on PA-RISC news.

The website has been updated with a new news entry 

Cheers,
Carlos.
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Grant Grundler | 13 Feb 05:05

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:01 PM, James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley <at> hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:49 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
>> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:38 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 07:33 -0700, dann frazier wrote:
>> > > In the meantime, if anyone wants to get the website working on apache2
>> > > for the remainder of the system's lifetime, please let me know.
>> > >
>> > I can probably do that.  At least the static part, since I run a bunch
>> > of apache 2 websites on my hosted system.
>> >
>> > I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
>> > scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
>> > entirely functional yet.
>>
>> OK, done and up.
>>
>> it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...
>
> I think I'm done.  I've got the three sites
> {www,ftp,hwdb}.parisc-linux.org up and running.  There aren't any more,
> are there (wiki seems to be eisee)?

James,
First, thanks for resurrecting the services for the parisc-linux.org domain.

Will ssh accounts be resurrected? I can provide a new SSH public key
if necessary/preferred. It's been a convenient place for me to park
any PA-RISC documents that I stumble across on the web.

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James Bottomley | 13 Feb 06:19

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 20:05 -0800, Grant Grundler wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:01 PM, James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley <at> hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:49 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:38 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 07:33 -0700, dann frazier wrote:
> >> > > In the meantime, if anyone wants to get the website working on apache2
> >> > > for the remainder of the system's lifetime, please let me know.
> >> > >
> >> > I can probably do that.  At least the static part, since I run a bunch
> >> > of apache 2 websites on my hosted system.
> >> >
> >> > I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
> >> > scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
> >> > entirely functional yet.
> >>
> >> OK, done and up.
> >>
> >> it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...
> >
> > I think I'm done.  I've got the three sites
> > {www,ftp,hwdb}.parisc-linux.org up and running.  There aren't any more,
> > are there (wiki seems to be eisee)?
> 
> James,
> First, thanks for resurrecting the services for the parisc-linux.org domain.

You're welcome.

> Will ssh accounts be resurrected?

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dann frazier | 14 Feb 19:06

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 08:05:37PM -0800, Grant Grundler wrote:
> Dann/Matt,
> DNS entry for iou.parisc-linux.org can be killed if it hasn't been
> yet. That used to point to gsyprf11.external.hp.com which was
> decommission last year.

Matt - can you handle that?
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Thibaut VARENE | 13 Feb 12:23

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:01 PM, James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley <at> hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:49 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:

>> > I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
>> > scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
>> > entirely functional yet.
>>
>> OK, done and up.
>>
>> it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...
>
> I think I'm done.  I've got the three sites
> {www,ftp,hwdb}.parisc-linux.org up and running.  There aren't any more,
> are there (wiki seems to be eisee)?  Could someone also check the links
> to see that nothing's broken.

Hi James,

Thanks for your help! The only thing that seems to be missing is
userdir support ("a2enmod userdir" should fix it)

Cheers,
T-Bone

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Thibaut VARENE | 14 Feb 14:41

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Thibaut VARENE
<T-Bone <at> parisc-linux.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:01 PM, James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley <at> hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:49 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
>
>>> > I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
>>> > scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
>>> > entirely functional yet.
>>>
>>> OK, done and up.
>>>
>>> it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...
>>
>> I think I'm done.  I've got the three sites
>> {www,ftp,hwdb}.parisc-linux.org up and running.  There aren't any more,
>> are there (wiki seems to be eisee)?  Could someone also check the links
>> to see that nothing's broken.
>
> Hi James,
>
> Thanks for your help! The only thing that seems to be missing is
> userdir support ("a2enmod userdir" should fix it)

Just remembered I have admin access to palinux so I took care of
enabling userdirs. Sorry for not realizing this sooner ;P

HTH
T-Bone

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dann frazier | 14 Feb 19:06

Re: decommissioning parisc-linux.org

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 02:01:42PM -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:49 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 08:38 -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 07:33 -0700, dann frazier wrote:
> > > > In the meantime, if anyone wants to get the website working on apache2
> > > > for the remainder of the system's lifetime, please let me know.
> > > > 
> > > I can probably do that.  At least the static part, since I run a bunch
> > > of apache 2 websites on my hosted system.
> > > 
> > > I've enabled it and put it up ... but it uses some type of server side
> > > scripting which I need to enable in the apache mods, so it's not
> > > entirely functional yet.
> > 
> > OK, done and up.
> > 
> > it was using SSI ... I haven't seen that for at least 20 years ...
> 
> I think I'm done.  I've got the three sites
> {www,ftp,hwdb}.parisc-linux.org up and running.  There aren't any more,
> are there (wiki seems to be eisee)?  Could someone also check the links
> to see that nothing's broken.

Good work!
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