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John Poelstra | 3 Oct 16:32
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F10 Schedule Revised

I have published updated schedules based on the great gobby editing 
sessions we had this week with the Documentation and Translation teams. 
  Note each schedule only shows the tasks for that specific team... we 
can adjust this if that is confusing:

http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-trans-tasks.html

For a view of all combined tasks for all teams:
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-all-tasks.html

As I mentioned during the Documentation session, I hope this process 
isn't too frustrating.  I think it will take a few iterations to make 
sure we are all using and understanding the same terminology.  There is 
probably still some work to be done around the 0-day tasks as someone 
pointed out on the translation list.

So next I'm proposing that both Documentation and Translation meet on 
gobby and if possible fedora talk (for audio conversation) next week to 
work out the remaining points of difference and confusion :)

Thanks again for your patience and I hope this process is helpful.

John

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Paul W. Frields | 3 Oct 17:37
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Re: F10 Schedule Revised

On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 07:32:43AM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
> I have published updated schedules based on the great gobby editing  
> sessions we had this week with the Documentation and Translation teams.  
> Note each schedule only shows the tasks for that specific team... we can 
> adjust this if that is confusing:
>
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-trans-tasks.html
>
> For a view of all combined tasks for all teams:
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-all-tasks.html
>
> As I mentioned during the Documentation session, I hope this process  
> isn't too frustrating.  I think it will take a few iterations to make  
> sure we are all using and understanding the same terminology.  There is  
> probably still some work to be done around the 0-day tasks as someone  
> pointed out on the translation list.
>
> So next I'm proposing that both Documentation and Translation meet on  
> gobby and if possible fedora talk (for audio conversation) next week to  
> work out the remaining points of difference and confusion :)
>
> Thanks again for your patience and I hope this process is helpful.

It has ABSOLUTELY been helpful.  I will do my best to be at any
meeting next week for more scheduling bashing.  I think that we should
probably stick to using the gobby chat window for communication --
even with only 3 people I think Fedora Talk held us back at times.

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Jon Stanley | 7 Oct 06:06

Re: F10 Schedule Revised

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> even with only 3 people I think Fedora Talk held us back at times.

Sorry for the tangent here - but in what way did it hold you back? I'm
really interested,

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Paul W. Frields | 8 Oct 01:44
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Re: F10 Schedule Revised

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 00:06 -0400, Jon Stanley wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > even with only 3 people I think Fedora Talk held us back at times.
> 
> Sorry for the tangent here - but in what way did it hold you back? I'm
> really interested,

Not for technical reasons -- it was more that conference calls that are
essentially, "Let's all do <XXXX>," suffer from everyone talking at once
too much.  (And I point that finger *firmly* at myself first and
foremost.)  IRC is lower bandwidth but when everyone is doing something
at once, communication is *easier* to interleave that way.  For more
orderly meetings, IRC can be less effective -- not always, but
sometimes.

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Noriko Mizumoto | 7 Oct 05:01
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Re: F10 Schedule Revised

John Poelstra さんは書きました:
> I have published updated schedules based on the great gobby editing 
> sessions we had this week with the Documentation and Translation teams. 
>  Note each schedule only shows the tasks for that specific team... we 
> can adjust this if that is confusing:
> 
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-trans-tasks.html

I can not see any deadline date for Installation Guide in trans-tasks.
I am assuming that will be 24-Nov from docs-tasks.
Could you please clarify this?

Can you also change wording for easy understanding?
   Current: "Release Notes PO Files completed by Translation."
   To be: "Release Notes Translation Deadline"
and
   Current: "Translation Deadline for fedoraproject.org"
   To be: "fedoraproject.org (web) Translation Deadline"

I think the following can be change to better expression.
   Current: "Translate xxxxx (POT to PO)"
   To be: "Drop xxxxx PO files (POT to PO)"

Thanks!
noriko

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> For a view of all combined tasks for all teams:
> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-all-tasks.html
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Runa Bhattacharjee | 7 Oct 12:16
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Re: F10 Schedule Revised

Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
> John Poelstra さんは書きました:
>> I have published updated schedules based on the great gobby editing 
>> sessions we had this week with the Documentation and Translation 
>> teams.  Note each schedule only shows the tasks for that specific 
>> team... we can adjust this if that is confusing:
>>
>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-trans-tasks.html
> 

[...]

> 
> I think the following can be change to better expression.
>   Current: "Translate xxxxx (POT to PO)"
>   To be: "Drop xxxxx PO files (POT to PO)"

imho, the term "drop" might not be appropriate to represent "(start of) translation task" because 
(without context) it might be incorrectly read  as "exclusion of PO files".

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Karsten 'quaid' Wade | 8 Oct 09:27
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Re: F10 Schedule Revised


On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 13:01 +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
> John Poelstra さんは書きました:
> > I have published updated schedules based on the great gobby editing 
> > sessions we had this week with the Documentation and Translation teams. 
> >  Note each schedule only shows the tasks for that specific team... we 
> > can adjust this if that is confusing:
> > 
> > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
> > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-trans-tasks.html
> 
> I can not see any deadline date for Installation Guide in trans-tasks.
> I am assuming that will be 24-Nov from docs-tasks.
> Could you please clarify this?

I think it is 27-Oct to 31-Oct for the Preview of the Installation
Guide.  Then it looks like 21-Nov or 20-Nov for the final Installation
Guide.  The Preview is a best-effort, we publish whatever is translated
by 31-Oct.

You are correct that those are not explicit in either schedule.

> Can you also change wording for easy understanding?
>    Current: "Release Notes PO Files completed by Translation."
>    To be: "Release Notes Translation Deadline"

+1 Sounds better.

>    Current: "Translation Deadline for fedoraproject.org"
>    To be: "fedoraproject.org (web) Translation Deadline"
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Noriko Mizumoto | 10 Oct 03:37
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Re: F10 Schedule Revised

Karsten 'quaid' Wade さんは書きました:
> On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 13:01 +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>> John Poelstra さんは書きました:
>>> I have published updated schedules based on the great gobby editing 
>>> sessions we had this week with the Documentation and Translation teams. 
>>>  Note each schedule only shows the tasks for that specific team... we 
>>> can adjust this if that is confusing:
>>>
>>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
>>> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-trans-tasks.html
>> I can not see any deadline date for Installation Guide in trans-tasks.
>> I am assuming that will be 24-Nov from docs-tasks.
>> Could you please clarify this?
> 
> I think it is 27-Oct to 31-Oct for the Preview of the Installation
> Guide.  Then it looks like 21-Nov or 20-Nov for the final Installation
> Guide.  The Preview is a best-effort, we publish whatever is translated
> by 31-Oct.
> 
> You are correct that those are not explicit in either schedule.

By 21-Oct, translators are quite busy for Software translation.
More time can be spent for GA than PR.
Is any chance to translate IG under Launch phase?

> 
>> Can you also change wording for easy understanding?
>>    Current: "Release Notes PO Files completed by Translation."
>>    To be: "Release Notes Translation Deadline"
>
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Gabriel Anca Corral | 10 Oct 15:40
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