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Firefox chokes on YNET

I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date.

When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on 
each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this 
and/or any solutions?

BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that 
doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any 
connection.

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Omer Zak | 28 Sep 07:21

Re: Firefox chokes on YNET

I noticed similar phenomenon with the same version of Firefox
(technically, Iceweasel) on Debian Etch - but with
http://news.walla.co.il/

Firefox chokes and crashes if I open more than 2 or so tabs on the above
Web site.
                                                --- Omer

On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 07:44 +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date.
> 
> When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on 
> each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this 
> and/or any solutions?
> 
> BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that 
> doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any 
> connection.

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David Ronkin | 28 Sep 07:37

Re: Firefox chokes on YNET

I had the same issue in Suse. After i installed the Flash blocker it disappeared:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=flash+block&cat=all

-David

2008/9/28 Omer Zak <w1 <at> zak.co.il>

I noticed similar phenomenon with the same version of Firefox
(technically, Iceweasel) on Debian Etch - but with
http://news.walla.co.il/

Firefox chokes and crashes if I open more than 2 or so tabs on the above
Web site.
--- Omer

On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 07:44 +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date.
>
> When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on
> each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this
> and/or any solutions?
>
> BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that
> doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any
> connection.

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Ori Idan | 28 Sep 07:30

Re: Firefox chokes on YNET

I think it is because of the the many flash adds they have.
Use adblock to block these adds and it should work fine.

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon <at> gmail.com> wrote:

I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date.

When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on
each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this
and/or any solutions?

BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that
doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any
connection.

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Boaz Rymland | 28 Sep 07:45

Re: Firefox chokes on YNET

To the best of my knowledge its not the flash objects on the page but rather the JS they use there. I was told once its the scrolling news thingy they use which eats the CPU.

Ori Idan wrote:

I think it is because of the the many flash adds they have.
Use adblock to block these adds and it should work fine.

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date.

When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on
each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this
and/or any solutions?

BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that
doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any
connection.

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Shlomo Solomon | 28 Sep 15:04

Re: Firefox chokes on YNET

I got several replies. Here's a summary of what worked or didn't.

On Sunday 28 September 2008, Ori Idan wrote:
> I think it is because of the the many flash adds they have.
> Use adblock to block these adds and it should work fine.
I installed adblock plus, but it didn't solve the problem. CPU use dropped 
only slightly, but adblock killed all the pictures and the icons at the top 
of the page (but only some of the flash!!) so YNET was not really usable.

On Sunday 28 September 2008, David Ronkin wrote:
> I had the same issue in Suse. After i installed the Flash blocker it
> disappeared:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=flash+block&cat=all
This did seem to solve the problem, but, although I agree there's to much 
flash on YNET, killing it all seems to be over-kill.

On Sunday 28 September 2008, Boaz Rymland wrote:
> To the best of my knowledge its not the flash objects on the page but
> rather the JS they use there. I was told once its the scrolling news
> thingy they use which eats the CPU.
I don't think that's true. After installing flash blocker, the scrolling news 
was also gone. Clicking on the location it usually appears re-enabled the 
scrolling news and CPU use only went up about 2%.

On Sunday 28 September 2008, Gal Gur-Arie wrote:
> If you'r using the extension of the HTML validator then disable it for Ynet
> it will help.
not installed

On Sunday 28 September 2008, Micha wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:44:08 +0300
<< snip snip >>
> I tend to see this mostly with weaker cpus where it comes into play. Also
> appears with explorer on windows, not only firefox. The issue is flash and
> ynet have a lot of them and they are very dynamic which take a lot of cpu.
As I mentioned above, the flash blocker did reduce CPU use, but my box is an 
AMD 4200 dual core. A few flash windows should not have any real impact on 
the CPU. In fact, with 10 - 15 tabs open (and many of them use flash), I get 
about 2% (or less) CPU usage. Opening YNET jumps that to 140% (as I wrote 
earlier - over 70% on each core). That really makes no sense. 

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Gal Gur-Arie | 28 Sep 09:38

Re: Firefox chokes on YNET

If you'r using the extension of the HTML validator then disable it for Ynet it will help.

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date.

When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on
each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this
and/or any solutions?

BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that
doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any
connection.

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Micha | 28 Sep 10:56

Re: Firefox chokes on YNET

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:44:08 +0300
Shlomo Solomon <shlomo.solomon@...> wrote:

> I have firefox 2.0.0.16 on Mandriva 2008.1 - all packages up-to-date.
> 
> When I open YNET, CPU usage jumps to about 150% (AMD dual core - over 70% on 
> each core). Closing YNET brings thngs back to normal. Has anyone seen this 
> and/or any solutions?
> 
> BTW - I should mention that I have way too many FF extensions, but that 
> doesn't cause any problems on other sites, so I don't think there's any 
> connection.
> 

I tend to see this mostly with weaker cpus where it comes into play. Also
appears with explorer on windows, not only firefox. The issue is flash and ynet
have a lot of them and they are very dynamic which take a lot of cpu.

My current laptop can handle it, but my p-4 windows machine back home with
explorer chokes the machine on 100% cpu with about 5 ynet pages open and the
only option is to wait 5 minutes for each page to respond or kill explorer.

Try installing a flash blocker, it will seriously reduce the overhead

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