King Beowulf | 28 Aug 06:10 2011
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Submitted the nvidia-kernel 280.13 update and ran into a glitch: per this lists recommendation, I created /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf to automatically load the nvidia module if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d is empty and there is no xorg.conf.  The consensus was that anything in the latter locations will override 10-nvidia.conf. This was decided so that driver upgrades would not break any local customizations.

However, the one setting that does not override is "Coolbits."  If I specify Coolbits in 10-nvidia.conf, I can adjust the fan speed (see below); if I leave it out, I cannot adjust the speed even though xorg.conf has the correct entries.  The device section in xorg.conf appears to be ignored if it also appear in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d.  Deleting /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf restored the normal function of xorg.conf (and presumably xorg.conf.d)

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce GT 430"
    Option         "Coolbits" "5"
EndSection

Recommendation: delete /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf if you need to use xorg.conf and/or xorg.conf.d otherwise you should be ok if you use nvidia-settings fro all adjustments.

I'll send in a patch for the readme ASAP once I figure out how to say it in an concise and still accurate manner.

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<div><p>Submitted the nvidia-kernel 280.13 update and ran into a glitch: per this lists recommendation, I created /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf to automatically load the nvidia module if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d is empty and there is no xorg.conf.&nbsp; The consensus was that anything in the latter locations will override 10-nvidia.conf. This was decided so that driver upgrades would not break any local customizations.<br><br>However, the one setting that does not override is "Coolbits."&nbsp; If I specify Coolbits in 10-nvidia.conf, I can adjust the fan speed (see below); if I leave it out, I cannot adjust the speed even though xorg.conf has the correct entries.&nbsp; The device section in xorg.conf appears to be ignored if it also appear in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d.&nbsp; Deleting /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf restored the normal function of xorg.conf (and presumably xorg.conf.d)<br><br>Section "Device"<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Identifier&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Device0"<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Driver&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "nvidia"<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; VendorName&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "NVIDIA Corporation"<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BoardName&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "GeForce GT 430"<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Option&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Coolbits" "5"<br>
EndSection<br clear="all"><br>Recommendation: delete  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf if you need to use xorg.conf and/or xorg.conf.d otherwise you should be ok if you use nvidia-settings fro all adjustments.<br><br>I'll send in a patch for the readme ASAP once I figure out how to say it in an concise and still accurate manner.<br><br>-- <br>You! What PLANET is this!<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0<br><br></p></div>
emmel | 28 Aug 10:17 2011
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Re: nvidia-kernel

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 09:10:57PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> Submitted the nvidia-kernel 280.13 update and ran into a glitch: per this
> lists recommendation, I created /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf to
> automatically load the nvidia module if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d is empty and
> there is no xorg.conf.  The consensus was that anything in the latter
> locations will override 10-nvidia.conf. This was decided so that driver
> upgrades would not break any local customizations.
> 
> However, the one setting that does not override is "Coolbits."  If I specify
> Coolbits in 10-nvidia.conf, I can adjust the fan speed (see below); if I
> leave it out, I cannot adjust the speed even though xorg.conf has the
> correct entries.  The device section in xorg.conf appears to be ignored if
> it also appear in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d.  Deleting
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf restored the normal function of
> xorg.conf (and presumably xorg.conf.d)
> 
> Section "Device"
>     Identifier     "Device0"
>     Driver         "nvidia"
>     VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
>     BoardName      "GeForce GT 430"
>     Option         "Coolbits" "5"
> EndSection
> 
> Recommendation: delete /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf if you need
> to use xorg.conf and/or xorg.conf.d otherwise you should be ok if you use
> nvidia-settings fro all adjustments.
> 
> I'll send in a patch for the readme ASAP once I figure out how to say it in
> an concise and still accurate manner.

Well, you got it wrong. xorg.conf doesn't override
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf - it's
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf that does. The whole file gets
overridden. That's why the recommendation is to *copy* the
10-nvidia.conf over and edit it in the /etc hierarchy. On a different
note I should check out the Coolbits setting. Didn't know about that
one...
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 09:10:57PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> Submitted the nvidia-kernel 280.13 update and ran into a glitch: per this
> lists recommendation, I created /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf to
> automatically load the nvidia module if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d is empty and
> there is no xorg.conf.  The consensus was that anything in the latter
> locations will override 10-nvidia.conf. This was decided so that driver
> upgrades would not break any local customizations.
> 
> However, the one setting that does not override is "Coolbits."  If I specify
> Coolbits in 10-nvidia.conf, I can adjust the fan speed (see below); if I
> leave it out, I cannot adjust the speed even though xorg.conf has the
> correct entries.  The device section in xorg.conf appears to be ignored if
> it also appear in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d.  Deleting
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf restored the normal function of
> xorg.conf (and presumably xorg.conf.d)
> 
> Section "Device"
>     Identifier     "Device0"
>     Driver         "nvidia"
>     VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
>     BoardName      "GeForce GT 430"
>     Option         "Coolbits" "5"
> EndSection
> 
> Recommendation: delete /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf if you need
> to use xorg.conf and/or xorg.conf.d otherwise you should be ok if you use
> nvidia-settings fro all adjustments.
> 
> I'll send in a patch for the readme ASAP once I figure out how to say it in
> an concise and still accurate manner.

Well, you got it wrong. xorg.conf doesn't override
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf - it's
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf that does. The whole file gets
overridden. That's why the recommendation is to *copy* the
10-nvidia.conf over and edit it in the /etc hierarchy. On a different
note I should check out the Coolbits setting. Didn't know about that
one...
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King Beowulf | 28 Aug 23:35 2011
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Re: nvidia-kernel

Hmmm.  From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was that anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I understood that wrong?  Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?  What I observe is that anything in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.

There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this.  The X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST so that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is search first and so has lower priority?  Acccording to http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html

In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used
for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor
and package usage. The simple search path is:

    /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
    $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d

Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.

So you can understand my confusion.

BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings, depending on the card.  The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels unless I am playing a game.

-Ed

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<div>
<p>Hmmm.&nbsp; From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was that anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I understood that wrong?&nbsp; Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?&nbsp; What I observe is that anything in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.<br><br>There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this.&nbsp; The X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST so that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is search first and so has lower priority?&nbsp; Acccording to <a href="http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html">http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html</a><br><br></p>
<div>In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used<br>for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor<br>and package usage. The simple search path is:<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d<br><br>Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.<br><br>
</div>So you can understand my confusion.<br><br>BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings, depending on the card.&nbsp; The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels unless I am playing a game.<br><br>-Ed<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>You! What PLANET is this!<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0<br><br>
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emmel | 29 Aug 10:11 2011
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Re: nvidia-kernel

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:35:30PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> Hmmm.  From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was that
> anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I understood
> that wrong?  Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?  What I observe is that anything in
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
> 
> There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this.  The
> X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST so
> that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is
> search first and so has lower priority?  Acccording to
> http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html
> 
> In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used
> for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor
> and package usage. The simple search path is:
> 
>     /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
>     $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d
> 
> Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.
> 
> So you can understand my confusion.

Well, the way I understand it and the way it seems to work for me is
that any files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d will get overridden by
files of the same name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.

> BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings,
> depending on the card.  The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels
> unless I am playing a game.

I checked it out. Though I have to have a look at the maximum allowed
die temperature for my card, before I toy with that. Melting my graphics
card is not in the plan for me.
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:35:30PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> Hmmm.  From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was that
> anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I understood
> that wrong?  Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?  What I observe is that anything in
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
> 
> There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this.  The
> X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST so
> that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is
> search first and so has lower priority?  Acccording to
> http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html
> 
> In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used
> for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor
> and package usage. The simple search path is:
> 
>     /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
>     $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d
> 
> Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.
> 
> So you can understand my confusion.

Well, the way I understand it and the way it seems to work for me is
that any files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d will get overridden by
files of the same name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.

> BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings,
> depending on the card.  The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels
> unless I am playing a game.

I checked it out. Though I have to have a look at the maximum allowed
die temperature for my card, before I toy with that. Melting my graphics
card is not in the plan for me.
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King Beowulf | 29 Aug 20:48 2011
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Re: nvidia-kernel

Emmel, see LQ thread I stgarted to get more exposure on this topic.  On my system /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:11 AM, emmel <the_emmel-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:35:30PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> Hmmm.  From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was that
> anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I understood
> that wrong?  Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?  What I observe is that anything in
> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
>
> There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this.  The
> X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST so
> that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is
> search first and so has lower priority?  Acccording to
> http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html
>
> In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used
> for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor
> and package usage. The simple search path is:
>
>     /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
>     $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d
>
> Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.
>
> So you can understand my confusion.

Well, the way I understand it and the way it seems to work for me is
that any files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d will get overridden by
files of the same name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.

> BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings,
> depending on the card.  The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels
> unless I am playing a game.

I checked it out. Though I have to have a look at the maximum allowed
die temperature for my card, before I toy with that. Melting my graphics
card is not in the plan for me.
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<p>Emmel, see LQ thread I stgarted to get more exposure on this topic.&nbsp; On my system /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.<br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:11 AM, emmel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:the_emmel@...">the_emmel@...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<div class="im">On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:35:30PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:<br>
&gt; Hmmm. &nbsp;From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was that<br>
&gt; anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I understood<br>
&gt; that wrong? &nbsp;Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides<br>
&gt; /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d? &nbsp;What I observe is that anything in<br>
&gt; /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this. &nbsp;The<br>
&gt; X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST so<br>
&gt; that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is<br>
&gt; search first and so has lower priority? &nbsp;Acccording to<br>
&gt; <a href="http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html" target="_blank">http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used<br>
&gt; for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor<br>
&gt; and package usage. The simple search path is:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So you can understand my confusion.<br><br>
</div>Well, the way I understand it and the way it seems to work for me is<br>
that any files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d will get overridden by<br>
files of the same name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.<br><div class="im">
<br>
&gt; BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings,<br>
&gt; depending on the card. &nbsp;The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels<br>
&gt; unless I am playing a game.<br><br>
</div>I checked it out. Though I have to have a look at the maximum allowed<br>
die temperature for my card, before I toy with that. Melting my graphics<br>
card is not in the plan for me.<br><div>
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emmel | 30 Aug 12:55 2011
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Re: nvidia-kernel

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:48:06AM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> Emmel, see LQ thread I stgarted to get more exposure on this topic.  On my
> system /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
> 
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:35:30PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> > > Hmmm.  From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was
> > that
> > > anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I
> > understood
> > > that wrong?  Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides
> > > /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?  What I observe is that anything in
> > > /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
> > >
> > > There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this.  The
> > > X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST
> > so
> > > that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is
> > > search first and so has lower priority?  Acccording to
> > > http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html
> > >
> > > In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used
> > > for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor
> > > and package usage. The simple search path is:
> > >
> > >     /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
> > >     $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d
> > >
> > > Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.
> > >
> > > So you can understand my confusion.
> >
> > Well, the way I understand it and the way it seems to work for me is
> > that any files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d will get overridden by
> > files of the same name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.
> >
> > > BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings,
> > > depending on the card.  The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels
> > > unless I am playing a game.
> >
> > I checked it out. Though I have to have a look at the maximum allowed
> > die temperature for my card, before I toy with that. Melting my graphics
> > card is not in the plan for me.

Well, I had a look. After some searching. I have no idea where the part
with xorg.conf overrides everything comes from. I've never actually
tried to put any static configuration in the config dirs. But, and let
me say that very clearly:

The xorg.conf doesn't matter to your package.

Although it would be nice to know if xorg.conf settings do override.
From my (hard learned) hot plugging lessons, I can however attast to the
following: Hot plugged stuff completely ignores the xorg.conf, unless
you disable hotplugging entirely in the xorg.cong. I wouldn't be too
surprised if you see something similar, even though graphics cards
usually aren't hot plugged in the traditional sense.

Anyway, after copying the settings file in question from
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, any the letter would
take precedece. And this *is* the preferred way to deal with those
configurations. Have a look at the comments in 90-keyboard-layout.conf.

Oh, just had a look. It actually seems that not the whole file gets
overridden, but the sections therein. My custom keymap file is just
called keymap.conf...

Long story made short: In our specific case, putting the Coolbits
setting in a copied settings file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d should work
and be the way to go. You jsut supply the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
file. Users should not adjust their xorg.conf, but the copy in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.

Huh. Lots of typing, not so much content. Hope this helps matters,
though.

On a different note, activating the Coolbits option gives me the option
to change the fan settings, but not the clock. Odd.

Oh, and please refrain from top posting and cut the signatures when
replying.

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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:48:06AM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> Emmel, see LQ thread I stgarted to get more exposure on this topic.  On my
> system /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
> 
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:35:30PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> > > Hmmm.  From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was
> > that
> > > anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I
> > understood
> > > that wrong?  Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides
> > > /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?  What I observe is that anything in
> > > /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
> > >
> > > There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this.  The
> > > X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST
> > so
> > > that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is
> > > search first and so has lower priority?  Acccording to
> > > http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html
> > >
> > > In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used
> > > for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor
> > > and package usage. The simple search path is:
> > >
> > >     /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
> > >     $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d
> > >
> > > Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.
> > >
> > > So you can understand my confusion.
> >
> > Well, the way I understand it and the way it seems to work for me is
> > that any files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d will get overridden by
> > files of the same name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.
> >
> > > BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings,
> > > depending on the card.  The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels
> > > unless I am playing a game.
> >
> > I checked it out. Though I have to have a look at the maximum allowed
> > die temperature for my card, before I toy with that. Melting my graphics
> > card is not in the plan for me.

Well, I had a look. After some searching. I have no idea where the part
with xorg.conf overrides everything comes from. I've never actually
tried to put any static configuration in the config dirs. But, and let
me say that very clearly:

The xorg.conf doesn't matter to your package.

Although it would be nice to know if xorg.conf settings do override.
From my (hard learned) hot plugging lessons, I can however attast to the
following: Hot plugged stuff completely ignores the xorg.conf, unless
you disable hotplugging entirely in the xorg.cong. I wouldn't be too
surprised if you see something similar, even though graphics cards
usually aren't hot plugged in the traditional sense.

Anyway, after copying the settings file in question from
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, any the letter would
take precedece. And this *is* the preferred way to deal with those
configurations. Have a look at the comments in 90-keyboard-layout.conf.

Oh, just had a look. It actually seems that not the whole file gets
overridden, but the sections therein. My custom keymap file is just
called keymap.conf...

Long story made short: In our specific case, putting the Coolbits
setting in a copied settings file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d should work
and be the way to go. You jsut supply the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
file. Users should not adjust their xorg.conf, but the copy in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.

Huh. Lots of typing, not so much content. Hope this helps matters,
though.

On a different note, activating the Coolbits option gives me the option
to change the fan settings, but not the clock. Odd.

Oh, and please refrain from top posting and cut the signatures when
replying.

HTH/HANDA
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Re: nvidia-kernel

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:55 AM, emmel <the_emmel-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:48:06AM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> Emmel, see LQ thread I stgarted to get more exposure on this topic.  On my
> system /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
>
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:35:30PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:
> > > Hmmm.  From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was
> > that
> > > anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I
> > understood
> > > that wrong?  Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides
> > > /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d?  What I observe is that anything in
> > > /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.
> > >
> > > There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this.  The
> > > X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST
> > so
> > > that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is
> > > search first and so has lower priority?  Acccording to
> > > http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html
> > >
> > > In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used
> > > for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor
> > > and package usage. The simple search path is:
> > >
> > >     /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
> > >     $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d
> > >
> > > Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.
> > >
> > > So you can understand my confusion.
> >
> > Well, the way I understand it and the way it seems to work for me is
> > that any files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d will get overridden by
> > files of the same name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.
> >
> > > BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings,
> > > depending on the card.  The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels
> > > unless I am playing a game.
> >
> > I checked it out. Though I have to have a look at the maximum allowed
> > die temperature for my card, before I toy with that. Melting my graphics
> > card is not in the plan for me.

Well, I had a look. After some searching. I have no idea where the part
with xorg.conf overrides everything comes from. I've never actually
tried to put any static configuration in the config dirs. But, and let
me say that very clearly:

The xorg.conf doesn't matter to your package.

Although it would be nice to know if xorg.conf settings do override.
From my (hard learned) hot plugging lessons, I can however attast to the
following: Hot plugged stuff completely ignores the xorg.conf, unless
you disable hotplugging entirely in the xorg.cong. I wouldn't be too
surprised if you see something similar, even though graphics cards
usually aren't hot plugged in the traditional sense.

Anyway, after copying the settings file in question from
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, any the letter would
take precedece. And this *is* the preferred way to deal with those
configurations. Have a look at the comments in 90-keyboard-layout.conf.

Oh, just had a look. It actually seems that not the whole file gets
overridden, but the sections therein. My custom keymap file is just
called keymap.conf...

Long story made short: In our specific case, putting the Coolbits
setting in a copied settings file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d should work
and be the way to go. You jsut supply the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
file. Users should not adjust their xorg.conf, but the copy in
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.

Huh. Lots of typing, not so much content. Hope this helps matters,
though.

On a different note, activating the Coolbits option gives me the option
to change the fan settings, but not the clock. Odd.

Oh, and please refrain from top posting and cut the signatures when
replying.

HTH/HANDA
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Sorry for the top post.  That's what get for using gmail web client...

I sent in a diff to fix nvidia-kernel up a bit.  I did see the comments in 90-keyboard-layout.conf and was hoping 10-nvidia.conf would behave the same way. No such luck here.  Its a small niggle, but I do want a simple default that can be tweaked in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d as needed.  I can't seem to get it to work.

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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:55 AM, emmel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:the_emmel@...">the_emmel@...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<div class="im">On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:48:06AM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:<br>
&gt; Emmel, see LQ thread I stgarted to get more exposure on this topic. &nbsp;On my<br>
&gt; system /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.<br>
&gt;<br>
</div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class="h5">&gt; &gt; On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:35:30PM -0700, King Beowulf wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hmmm. &nbsp;From your and Robby's email to this list, my interpretation was<br>
&gt; &gt; that<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; anything in /etc/X11/ will override /usr/share/X11, but maybe I<br>
&gt; &gt; understood<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; that wrong? &nbsp;Or is it just that /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overrides<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d? &nbsp;What I observe is that anything in<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d has priority.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; There seems to be conflicting information after googling about this. &nbsp;The<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; X.org docs seem to imply that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is searched LAST<br>
&gt; &gt; so<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; that word give it priority? Others say that /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; search first and so has lower priority? &nbsp;Acccording to<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href="http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html" target="_blank">http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2010-April/006852.html</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; In addition to the conf files found in /etc/X11 or $sysconfdir/X11 used<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; for local administration, we also reserve a system directory for vendor<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; and package usage. The simple search path is:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; $datadir/X11/xorg.conf.d<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Files from these directories will have the lowest config priority.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; So you can understand my confusion.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Well, the way I understand it and the way it seems to work for me is<br>
&gt; &gt; that any files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d will get overridden by<br>
&gt; &gt; files of the same name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; BTW, emmel, check the driver readme for a bunch of coolbits settings,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; depending on the card. &nbsp;The fan one is nice as I can drop the decibels<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; unless I am playing a game.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I checked it out. Though I have to have a look at the maximum allowed<br>
&gt; &gt; die temperature for my card, before I toy with that. Melting my graphics<br>
&gt; &gt; card is not in the plan for me.<br><br>
</div>
</div>Well, I had a look. After some searching. I have no idea where the part<br>
with xorg.conf overrides everything comes from. I've never actually<br>
tried to put any static configuration in the config dirs. But, and let<br>
me say that very clearly:<br><br>
The xorg.conf doesn't matter to your package.<br><br>
Although it would be nice to know if xorg.conf settings do override.<br>
From my (hard learned) hot plugging lessons, I can however attast to the<br>
following: Hot plugged stuff completely ignores the xorg.conf, unless<br>
you disable hotplugging entirely in the xorg.cong. I wouldn't be too<br>
surprised if you see something similar, even though graphics cards<br>
usually aren't hot plugged in the traditional sense.<br><br>
Anyway, after copying the settings file in question from<br>
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, any the letter would<br>
take precedece. And this *is* the preferred way to deal with those<br>
configurations. Have a look at the comments in 90-keyboard-layout.conf.<br><br>
Oh, just had a look. It actually seems that not the whole file gets<br>
overridden, but the sections therein. My custom keymap file is just<br>
called keymap.conf...<br><br>
Long story made short: In our specific case, putting the Coolbits<br>
setting in a copied settings file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d should work<br>
and be the way to go. You jsut supply the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d<br>
file. Users should not adjust their xorg.conf, but the copy in<br><div class="im">/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.<br><br>
</div>Huh. Lots of typing, not so much content. Hope this helps matters,<br>
though.<br><br>
On a different note, activating the Coolbits option gives me the option<br>
to change the fan settings, but not the clock. Odd.<br><br>
Oh, and please refrain from top posting and cut the signatures when<br>
replying.<br><br>
HTH/HANDA<br>--<br><div>
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<br>Sorry for the top post.&nbsp; That's what get for using gmail web client...<br><br>I sent in a diff to fix nvidia-kernel up a bit.&nbsp; I did see the comments in 90-keyboard-layout.conf and was hoping 10-nvidia.conf would behave the same way. No such luck here.&nbsp; Its a small niggle, but I do want a simple default that can be tweaked in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d as needed.&nbsp; I can't seem to get it to work.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>You! What PLANET is this!<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0<br><br>
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