Re: How To Tell NetworkManager There's a Wireless Interface To Manage?
Bengt Richter <bokr <at> oz.net>
2012-05-24 00:56:49 GMT
On 05/23/2012 02:53 PM Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012, TuxaneMedia wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure the routes won't get set up because the interface is not
>> ready enough.
>
> Jens, Bradley, et al.:
>
> The problem has been fixed. My business partner (a software engineer) came
> over and eventually discovered that wlan0 needed to be described in
> rc.inet1.conf and wicd used as the connection tool.
>
> With the laptops on which I've used wicd only the static IP information
> for eth0 has needed to be entered. For whatever reason, the Sony wants wlan0
> to also be included in the configuation file.
>
> Also, while I downloaded, built, and installed all the prerequisites for
> nm-applet that are noted on the SlackBuild.org site I still missed
> something.
>
> Thanks to all of you!
>
> Rich
Congratulations, you deserve the fruits of your persistence!
<rant warning>
Having watched your process (thanks for sharing it here, and thanks to the others who also shared),
it seems typical of many. Google is great at what it does, but not at directly supporting this kind of
information search. Too much chaff, and the wheat gets lost.
Now that you have winnowed forth some real wheat, I wonder how the search for it can be made easier
for the next person who is looking for the same info, or something your discovered along the way.
IMHO the situation still pretty bad, considering all the tools available. If you count the hours you've used
on this (and coffees you've bought to get into a WiFi test area 
and gas if you've driven, etc., and paying
yourself minimum wage $7.50/hr, what was the cost of finding out what you needed? Plus $7.50/hr for everyone
actively participating?
Will the information wind up on
http://www.slackwiki.com/Main_Page
? Well, not automatically, I guess
It seems a stretch to ask you to transfer the essentials to there, but maybe an entry
under hardware for your problematical laptop could link back to this thread, for a start?
Search features for forums generally bury you in irrelevant bikeshedding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikeshedding
Using site:<forum site> with google gives about the same, if not identical, effect.
There is a business opportunity in this pattern, which entrepreneurs are trying to exploit, but
maximizing profit
directly usually means they try to own the information and collect tolls for access, which is not exactly
the FOSS ethos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethos
Once you start thinking that you may profit by NOT answering a forum question right away, open community cooperation
is on its way out. Look at what happens in scientific communities., where every innocent discovery awaits
its seigneur
to exercise his "droit."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur
A kickstarter
http://www.kickstarter.com/
kind of reward system for good information well presented and indexed might have its place,
but I'm afraid people will try to maximize their returns rather than be satisfied with fair rewards of appreciation.
I have seen paypal contribution buttons on some websites. Maybe that is one way.
It would be interesting just to have some hard data on the value of FOSS information as measured by
the situation of an employee estimating how much time the information saved him in doing his assigned job,
multiplied by his salary/benefits rate of compensation.
I'd like to see the FSF run a web form on their servers that FOSS sites could link to with a button
like the paypal buttons, to collect time/savings/value information like that for FOSS from anywhere.
It would be easy and interesting.
If you read some good information you realized saved you significant time, you could just click the button
and come to an FSF page that would log the referer page and ask for time and payrate info, and some optional
rating info. The button could be configured with hidden field presets for specific items like source code
or docs for either multiple buttons. Or you could have a dropdown with detailed items.
Then with the data we could think more clearly about how a fair share monetary reward system might be created,
for those who can be satisfied with a living short of a killing. Companies whose employees had saved time by
using FOSS programs or data could then be lobbied for FSF contributions based on real evidence of benefit.
If you're still reading, thanks. I just wanted to express some OTTOMH ideas
</rant warning>
Regards,
Bengt Richter
> Having watched your process (thanks for sharing it here, and thanks to the
> others who also shared), it seems typical of many. Google is great at what
> it does, but not at directly supporting this kind of information search.
> Too much chaff, and the wheat gets lost.
I found numerous threads (many on linuxquestions.org) dispersed over a
half-dozen or so distributions. The results depended on just how I
structured the search terms. This is normal and there's not much one can do
about it.
> IMHO the situation still pretty bad, considering all the tools available.
> If you count the hours you've used on this (and coffees you've bought to
> get into a WiFi test area 
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