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CyberOrg | 2 Jul 2008 06:48
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Re: SuSE 11.0 Kiwi-LTSP and Etherboot clients?

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Nicholas Metsovon <nmetsovo@...> wrote:
> I need to rebuild our main LTSP server, and I'm looking at both Ubuntu 8.04 and SuSE 11.0.  After installing
SuSE and setting up LTSP, I noticed there does not appear to be any images for our etherboot clients to use. 
Then I noticed on your http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP page this:
>
> "Thin client can be any PC which is PXE boot capable, 128 MB RAM is desired, but you can test lower and see if it
works for you."
>
> Does that mean we can not use etherboot clients?  Is there a way to build an image that etherboot clients can
boot from?  If so, how?

KIWI only creates pxe network boot image, so we are limited by that.

>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>

Unfortunately I've never worked with etherboot image, so can't help
you much even if there is any way. Do share with us if you are able to
implement it.

Cheers

-J

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Nicholas Metsovon | 2 Jul 2008 07:08
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Re: SuSE 11.0 Kiwi-LTSP and Etherboot clients?

Thank you very much for your reply.  That's what I was afraid of.

Does anyone out there have any ideas how I can go about creating an image in SuSE that will allow etherboot
clients to boot?  

Another option, of course, would be for me to install LTSP 4.2 for those clients.  I assume SuSE Kiwi-LTSP
will allow me to run both concurrently, won't it?  If I have to go this route, is there anything I have to watch
out for?  Also, is PulseAudio likely to work in 4.2?

All help/advice will be appreciated.

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, CyberOrg <cyberorg@...> wrote:

> From: CyberOrg <cyberorg@...>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] SuSE 11.0 Kiwi-LTSP and Etherboot clients?
> To: ltsp-discuss@...
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:48 PM
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Nicholas Metsovon
> <nmetsovo@...> wrote:
> > I need to rebuild our main LTSP server, and I'm
> looking at both Ubuntu 8.04 and SuSE 11.0.  After
> installing SuSE and setting up LTSP, I noticed there does
> not appear to be any images for our etherboot clients to
> use.  Then I noticed on your http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
> page this:
> >
> > "Thin client can be any PC which is PXE boot
> capable, 128 MB RAM is desired, but you can test lower and
> see if it works for you."
> >
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Rolf-Werner Eilert | 2 Jul 2008 08:31
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Re: SuSE 11.0 Kiwi-LTSP and Etherboot clients?

Back in the good ol' days of LTSP 3, I managed to have clients booting 
from three different flavours of LTSP, each the one it could run best 
on. There were clients which needed special versions to be able to boot 
or run, newer versions didn't run on them.

Well, I don't know if it's really necessary to totally switch back to 
4.2 for your etherboot clients. After all, this is only the way they get 
their first boot image from. I used to have both etherboot and PXE 
clients for a while living happily together and getting each their 
specific kernel image. You just have to specify this in /etc/dhcpd.conf. 
But it's early in the morning, didn't have a coffee yet ;-)

I even remember vaguely a discussion(?) about switching from one booting 
process into the other, so there might be a way calling PXE from 
Etherboot. If you can live with 4.2, however, it should be no problem to 
install it anywhere else completely separated from KIWI for those clients.

Rolf

Nicholas Metsovon schrieb:
> Thank you very much for your reply.  That's what I was afraid of.
> 
> Does anyone out there have any ideas how I can go about creating an image in SuSE that will allow etherboot
clients to boot?  
> 
> Another option, of course, would be for me to install LTSP 4.2 for those clients.  I assume SuSE Kiwi-LTSP
will allow me to run both concurrently, won't it?  If I have to go this route, is there anything I have to watch
out for?  Also, is PulseAudio likely to work in 4.2?
> 
> All help/advice will be appreciated.
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Nicholas Metsovon | 2 Jul 2008 17:20
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Re: SuSE 11.0 Kiwi-LTSP and Etherboot clients?

Thank you for your reply.

You know, I was thinking last night about this very same thing - that all I should need is to copy the kernel
files from my current LTSP 4.2 install over to the new SuSE 11 box, and try loading that to get the etherboot
clients to work.  But then I thought that maybe it would need all the drivers for that version of the kernel. 
??  I don't know.  Maybe I'll give it a try later today or so when I have more time.  

I remember the post you are referring to.  I don't think it will help in this case, as I still have to have that
initial file to load on the client. 

You hadn't had your coffee yet this morning... well I'm not much of a morning person, either, so it's going to
have to wait a couple of hours until I can think more clearly.  

Thank you again, though, for your post.  I might have to think about this.  I might have to play with this a
little bit.  

Nico

--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen@...> wrote:

> From: Rolf-Werner Eilert <eilert-sprachen@...>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] SuSE 11.0 Kiwi-LTSP and Etherboot clients?
> To: nmetsovo@..., ltsp-discuss@...
> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 12:31 AM
> Back in the good ol' days of LTSP 3, I managed to have
> clients booting 
> from three different flavours of LTSP, each the one it
> could run best 
> on. There were clients which needed special versions to be
> able to boot
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CyberOrg | 2 Jul 2008 07:24
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Re: SuSE 11.0 Kiwi-LTSP and Etherboot clients?

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Nicholas Metsovon
<nmetsovo@...> wrote:
> Thank you very much for your reply.  That's what I was afraid of.
>
> Does anyone out there have any ideas how I can go about creating an image in SuSE that will allow etherboot
clients to boot?
>
> Another option, of course, would be for me to install LTSP 4.2 for those clients.  I assume SuSE Kiwi-LTSP
will allow me to run both concurrently, won't it?  If I have to go this route, is there anything I have to watch
out for?  Also, is PulseAudio likely to work in 4.2?

Should work with a bit of dhcpd configuration. KIWI-LTSP puts all the
stuff in /srv/tftpboot, keep ltsp 4.2 boot images relative to that.

Cheers

-J

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