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jimmckenzie | 15 Jun 2012 18:47
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I need the exact command line structure to do a fsck on an external usb HDD with a NTFS file system (BTW the system can't mount the drive, says there's MFT issue)

Sorry for the long header.

Let me just say this up front. I HATE COMMAND LINE INTERFACE! Having to this this way is not my first choice, it
is my last.

The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically says there is an issue with the MFT and that I
need to run CHKDSK/F from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes nor do I want
anything they make. I ditched them about 9 months ago and haven't missed them one damned bit.

The external drive I'm trying to access is a Seagate GOFLEX 3TB USB my computer lists it as dev/sdb.

I've tried going on line and have found tons of remarkably informative/unfortunately useless info. Reams
actually.  The pages come in two categories, {1} they don't tell you much of anything {2} the info is more
rambling than my posts to this list including this one.

Please, can anyone help me here? 

As always, any all help will be appreciated.

Thank You

James R McKenzie

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Avi Greenbury | 15 Jun 2012 20:21
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Re: I need the exact command line structure to do a fsck on an external usb HDD with a NTFS file system (BTW the system can't mount the drive, says there's MFT issue)

jimmckenzie <at> earthlink.net wrote:

> The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically
> says there is an issue with the MFT and that I need to run CHKDSK/F
> from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes
> nor do I want anything they make.

Then how have you ended up with an NTFS filesystem? I mean that with
some sincerity - the obvious choice for a chkdisk utility is wherever
that volume came from. Have you any friends with Windows installs who
may be able to help?

Anyway, there is no chkdisk utility for Linux. There's a few things
which do similar sorts of things but might well not solve your problem.

Is this error message preventing you from mounting the volume? Can you
get a screenshot of it?  Things to look at if you do want to point
something at it and see if it helps include ntfsfix and ntfsck (the
latter comes in ntfsprogs). I don't have any direct, personal,
experience with either, though, and obviously there's a chance they'll
eat your data since any non-MS NTFS support is worked out on trial and
error.

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Mike McGinn | 15 Jun 2012 20:41

Re: I need the exact command line structure to do a fsck on an external usb HDD with a NTFS file system (BTW the system can't mount the drive, says there's MFT issue)

The only thing I can think of is that they are text links instead of banners.

Mike

On Friday, June 15, 2012 14:21:36 Avi Greenbury wrote:
> jimmckenzie <at> earthlink.net wrote:
> > The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically
> > says there is an issue with the MFT and that I need to run CHKDSK/F
> > from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes
> > nor do I want anything they make.
> 
> Then how have you ended up with an NTFS filesystem? I mean that with
> some sincerity - the obvious choice for a chkdisk utility is wherever
> that volume came from. Have you any friends with Windows installs who
> may be able to help?
> 
> Anyway, there is no chkdisk utility for Linux. There's a few things
> which do similar sorts of things but might well not solve your problem.
> 
> Is this error message preventing you from mounting the volume? Can you
> get a screenshot of it?  Things to look at if you do want to point
> something at it and see if it helps include ntfsfix and ntfsck (the
> latter comes in ntfsprogs). I don't have any direct, personal,
> experience with either, though, and obviously there's a chance they'll
> eat your data since any non-MS NTFS support is worked out on trial and
> error.
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Mike McGinn | 15 Jun 2012 20:46

Re: I need the exact command line structure to do a fsck on an external usb HDD with a NTFS file system (BTW the system can't mount the drive, says there's MFT issue)

Ooops, sorry. Right response to wrong message.

Sorry about that.

On Friday, June 15, 2012 14:41:36 Mike McGinn wrote:
> The only thing I can think of is that they are text links instead of
> banners.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On Friday, June 15, 2012 14:21:36 Avi Greenbury wrote:
> > jimmckenzie <at> earthlink.net wrote:
> > > The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically
> > > says there is an issue with the MFT and that I need to run CHKDSK/F
> > > from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes
> > > nor do I want anything they make.
> > 
> > Then how have you ended up with an NTFS filesystem? I mean that with
> > some sincerity - the obvious choice for a chkdisk utility is wherever
> > that volume came from. Have you any friends with Windows installs who
> > may be able to help?
> > 
> > Anyway, there is no chkdisk utility for Linux. There's a few things
> > which do similar sorts of things but might well not solve your problem.
> > 
> > Is this error message preventing you from mounting the volume? Can you
> > get a screenshot of it?  Things to look at if you do want to point
> > something at it and see if it helps include ntfsfix and ntfsck (the
> > latter comes in ntfsprogs). I don't have any direct, personal,
> > experience with either, though, and obviously there's a chance they'll
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J | 15 Jun 2012 21:04
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Re: I need the exact command line structure to do a fsck on an external usb HDD with a NTFS file system (BTW the system can't mount the drive, says there's MFT issue)

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Avi Greenbury <lists <at> avi.co> wrote:
> jimmckenzie <at> earthlink.net wrote:
>
>> The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically
>> says there is an issue with the MFT and that I need to run CHKDSK/F
>> from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes
>> nor do I want anything they make.
>
> Then how have you ended up with an NTFS filesystem? I mean that with
> some sincerity - the obvious choice for a chkdisk utility is wherever
> that volume came from. Have you any friends with Windows installs who
> may be able to help?

Most likely, he bought it that way... every external HDD I've bought
has come from the factory formatted in NTFS.  I usually leave mine
that way because I DO have Windows systems that I need to share the
drives.  Though I'm curious as to what kind of partition table that
drive uses, since the old standard msdos won't support partitions
larger than 2TiB.  Is it using GPT? Most likely... but just curious.

> Anyway, there is no chkdisk utility for Linux. There's a few things
> which do similar sorts of things but might well not solve your problem.
>
> Is this error message preventing you from mounting the volume? Can you
> get a screenshot of it?  Things to look at if you do want to point
> something at it and see if it helps include ntfsfix and ntfsck (the
> latter comes in ntfsprogs). I don't have any direct, personal,
> experience with either, though, and obviously there's a chance they'll
> eat your data since any non-MS NTFS support is worked out on trial and
> error.
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compdoc | 15 Jun 2012 21:10
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> Then how have you ended up with an NTFS filesystem? I mean that with 
> some sincerity - the obvious choice for a chkdisk utility is wherever 
> that volume came from. Have you any friends with Windows installs who 
> may be able to help?

I agree: if the data is critical use an OS that runs NTFS natively. Use
their tools to repair it - no one does NTFS better than Microsoft.
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Liam Proven | 15 Jun 2012 21:19
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Re: I need the exact command line structure to do a fsck on an external usb HDD with a NTFS file system (BTW the system can't mount the drive, says there's MFT issue)

On 15 June 2012 17:47,  <jimmckenzie <at> earthlink.net> wrote:
> Sorry for the long header.
>
> Let me just say this up front. I HATE COMMAND LINE INTERFACE! Having to this this way is not my first choice,
it is my last.

Well, man up, then. :¬)

> The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically says there is an issue with the MFT and that
I need to run CHKDSK/F from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes nor do I want
anything they make. I ditched them about 9 months ago and haven't missed them one damned bit.
>
> The external drive I'm trying to access is a Seagate GOFLEX 3TB USB my computer lists it as dev/sdb.
>
> I've tried going on line and have found tons of remarkably informative/unfortunately useless info.
Reams actually.  The pages come in two categories, {1} they don't tell you much of anything {2} the info is
more rambling than my posts to this list including this one.
>
> Please, can anyone help me here?
>
> As always, any all help will be appreciated.
>
> Thank You

*DO NOT TRY TO REPAIR AN ALIEN FILESYSTEM EXCEPT WITH NATIVE OS.*

You can use Linux for data recovery, sure, but if you want to fix a
Windows volume, USE WINDOWS.

You don't need to install it. A boot CD will do. There's a free one
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Dave Woyciesjes | 15 Jun 2012 22:25
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On 6/15/2012 3:19 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 15 June 2012 17:47,  <jimmckenzie <at> earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Sorry for the long header.
>>
>> Let me just say this up front. I HATE COMMAND LINE INTERFACE! Having to this this way is not my first choice,
it is my last.
>
> Well, man up, then. :¬)
>
>> The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically says there is an issue with the MFT and
that I need to run CHKDSK/F from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes nor do I want
anything they make. I ditched them about 9 months ago and haven't missed them one damned bit.
>>
>> The external drive I'm trying to access is a Seagate GOFLEX 3TB USB my computer lists it as dev/sdb.
>>
>> I've tried going on line and have found tons of remarkably informative/unfortunately useless info.
Reams actually.  The pages come in two categories, {1} they don't tell you much of anything {2} the info is
more rambling than my posts to this list including this one.
>>
>> Please, can anyone help me here?
>>
>> As always, any all help will be appreciated.
>>
>> Thank You
>
> *DO NOT TRY TO REPAIR AN ALIEN FILESYSTEM EXCEPT WITH NATIVE OS.*
>
> You can use Linux for data recovery, sure, but if you want to fix a
> Windows volume, USE WINDOWS.
>
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NoOp | 15 Jun 2012 23:11
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On 06/15/2012 09:47 AM, jimmckenzie <at> earthlink.net wrote:
> Sorry for the long header.

You mean this one?
"I need the exact command line structure to do a fsck on an external usb"

It would have been considerably better, and more considerate to others
if you had put your question, plea, whatever, in the body of the message
instead of writing a novel in the subject line.

Here is what you asked for:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/fsck.8.html
fsck [-sAVRTMNP] [-C [fd]] [-t fstype] [filesys...]  [--]
[fs-specific-options]

> 
> Let me just say this up front. I HATE COMMAND LINE INTERFACE! Having
> to this this way is not my first choice, it is my last.

Ok.

> 
> The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically
> says there is an issue with the MFT and that I need to run CHKDSK/F
> from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes
> nor do I want anything they make. I ditched them about 9 months ago
> and haven't missed them one damned bit.
> 
> The external drive I'm trying to access is a Seagate GOFLEX 3TB USB
> my computer lists it as dev/sdb.
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Ric Moore | 15 Jun 2012 23:14
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On 06/15/2012 12:47 PM, jimmckenzie <at> earthlink.net wrote:
> Sorry for the long header.
>
> Let me just say this up front. I HATE COMMAND LINE INTERFACE! Having
> to this this way is not my first choice, it is my last.

Clicking on a GUI is just passing a command line via point n click.
Sometimes it's good to see a negative result, not always present in a
GUI, for trouble shooting purposes.

> The exact message (which I can't seem to cut and paste) basically
> says there is an issue with the MFT and that I need to run CHKDSK/F
> from Window$. That's not an option, I don't have anything MS makes
> nor do I want anything they make. I ditched them about 9 months ago
> and haven't missed them one damned bit.

That's the spirit!

> The external drive I'm trying to access is a Seagate GOFLEX 3TB USB
> my computer lists it as dev/sdb.
>
> I've tried going on line and have found tons of remarkably
> informative/unfortunately useless info. Reams actually.  The pages
> come in two categories, {1} they don't tell you much of anything {2}
> the info is more rambling than my posts to this list including this
> one.

 From what you posted, this might help
http://wmarkito.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/how-to-fix-mftmirr-does-not-match-mft-record-0/
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NoOp | 15 Jun 2012 23:23
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On 06/15/2012 02:14 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
...
> From what you posted, this might help 
> http://wmarkito.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/how-to-fix-mftmirr-does-not-match-mft-record-0/
>
>  Quite a few replies state that this worked for them and that the
> Author is God. <grins>
> 
> Are there files on this disk you wish to keep?? Good luck. I hope
> this helps. Ric
> 

Ah. Nice find, Ric!

 <at> James: I still would like to see the ouput of:
$ sudo fdisk -l
$ sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS | awk '{print $1}'
$ lsusb
$ apt-cache policy ntfs-3g
$ apt-cache policy ntfs-config
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