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Marx | 20 May 2012 23:48
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Bad choices of USB cards

Hello
I use VDR a few years, but lately I changed my system into ITX (AMD 
Brazos) and so changed PCI DVB-S2 card into USB. Additionaly I has 
bought DVB-T tuner.
While buying hardware I was sure I buy hardware which is supported 
in-kernel, so no need to hunt for driver.
Unfortunatelly every from three card I have doesn't work properly.

The first: Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD.
Kernel has drivers, but only for the first revision. Second revision 
which I have need a patch. Patch is even on linux-media 
http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/10294/ , but isn't finished so no 
hope to have it in kernel soon.
Anyway I have applied it's modified version from 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653026 to kernel 3.2 
and it's almost work. Almost, because sometimes recording becames 
unplayable. Recording recors eveything, but I can play only some part of 
file from beginning. The rest is unplayable.

Looking for something widely used I choosed Pinnacle PCTV SAT HDTV 452E 
PRO USB. Problems with it i've described in thread: "[PATCH, RFC] 
STB0899 signal strength (pctv452e, others too?)"

The last miss was buying USB DVB-T stick based on Af9015. Generally it 
works, but only a few minutes. I suspect it overheats...

So I ask: if somebody has one of cards above working, please give me a 
note with which kernel and with which driver it does work.

Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards
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Torgeir Veimo | 21 May 2012 01:37

Re: Bad choices of USB cards

You can get a sony playtv, they are dual tuner and it's mostly plug
and play, except for intermittent noise from time to time (suspecting
retuning second tuner for eit scanning causing noise on first tuner).

On 21 May 2012 07:48, Marx <acc.for.news <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello
> I use VDR a few years, but lately I changed my system into ITX (AMD Brazos)
> and so changed PCI DVB-S2 card into USB. Additionaly I has bought DVB-T
> tuner.
> While buying hardware I was sure I buy hardware which is supported
> in-kernel, so no need to hunt for driver.
> Unfortunatelly every from three card I have doesn't work properly.
>
> The first: Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD.
> Kernel has drivers, but only for the first revision. Second revision which I
> have need a patch. Patch is even on linux-media
> http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/10294/ , but isn't finished so no hope to
> have it in kernel soon.
> Anyway I have applied it's modified version from
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653026 to kernel 3.2 and
> it's almost work. Almost, because sometimes recording becames unplayable.
> Recording recors eveything, but I can play only some part of file from
> beginning. The rest is unplayable.
>
> Looking for something widely used I choosed Pinnacle PCTV SAT HDTV 452E PRO
> USB. Problems with it i've described in thread: "[PATCH, RFC] STB0899 signal
> strength (pctv452e, others too?)"
>
> The last miss was buying USB DVB-T stick based on Af9015. Generally it
> works, but only a few minutes. I suspect it overheats...
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Dominic Evans | 21 May 2012 13:01
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Re: Bad choices of USB cards

On 21 May 2012 00:37, Torgeir Veimo <torgeir <at> netenviron.com> wrote:
> You can get a sony playtv, they are dual tuner and it's mostly plug
> and play, except for intermittent noise from time to time (suspecting
> retuning second tuner for eit scanning causing noise on first tuner).

Hmm, I've not seen this issue. Do you have it connected direct to
machine USB port? I have mine on an external powered USB hub.

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Marx | 21 May 2012 13:46
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Re: Bad choices of USB cards

On 21.05.2012 01:37, Torgeir Veimo wrote:
> You can get a sony playtv, they are dual tuner and it's mostly plug
> and play, except for intermittent noise from time to time (suspecting
> retuning second tuner for eit scanning causing noise on first tuner).

Thank you, but this tuner is DVB-T only and rather pricey
Marx

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Torgeir Veimo | 21 May 2012 14:27

Re: Bad choices of USB cards

On 21 May 2012 21:46, Marx <acc.for.news <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21.05.2012 01:37, Torgeir Veimo wrote:
>>
>> You can get a sony playtv, they are dual tuner and it's mostly plug
>> and play, except for intermittent noise from time to time (suspecting
>> retuning second tuner for eit scanning causing noise on first tuner).
>
>
> Thank you, but this tuner is DVB-T only and rather pricey

Yes it's DVB-T only, but seems to be going very cheap everywhere at the moment.

>
> Marx
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cedric.dewijs | 21 May 2012 05:17
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>Hello
>I use VDR a few years, but lately I changed my system into ITX (AMD 
>Brazos) and so changed PCI DVB-S2 card into USB. Additionaly I has 
>bought DVB-T tuner.
><snip>
>
>The last miss was buying USB DVB-T stick based on Af9015. Generally it 
>works, but only a few minutes. I suspect it overheats...
>
>So I ask: if somebody has one of cards above working, please give me a 
>note with which kernel and with which driver it does work.
>
>Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards 
>works without any problems on stock linux kernel.
>
>Marx
><snip>
>

Hi Marx,

I can't give you any advice on USB hardware for satellite reception, but
i do have a working setup for DVB-T. I use the following USB DVB-T receiver:
PCTV NanoStick 73e SE (solo) http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_nano_Stick_%2873e%29

This receiver works perfectly with the present kernel. (tested with 3.2.8-1-ARCH).
Please bear in mind that the supplied antennae for this receiver is not so
sensitive. Also, this receiver cannot supply power to a active antennae.
Therefore I use a home made power inserter and a 3 way splitter.
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Marx | 21 May 2012 13:58
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Re: Betr: Bad choices of USB cards

On 21.05.2012 05:17, cedric.dewijs <at> telfort.nl wrote:
> PCTV NanoStick 73e SE (solo)
nice idea, it's cheap enough, thank you
Marx

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Dominic Evans | 21 May 2012 12:40
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On 20/05/12 22:48, Marx wrote:
> Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards
> works without any problems on stock linux kernel.

I use a pair of Technisat SkyStar USB HD (DVB-S/S2) tuners [1] for 
Satellite and a pair of Sony PlayTV devices for DVB-T.

This has been a stable setup for me. Currently running unmodified 3.2.0 
kernel.

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[1] These show in lsusb as 14f7:0500 TechniSat Digital GmbH DVB-PC TV 
Star HD

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Dominic Evans | 21 May 2012 12:53
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On 21/05/12 11:40, Dominic Evans wrote:
> On 20/05/12 22:48, Marx wrote:
>> Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards
>> works without any problems on stock linux kernel.
>
> I use a pair of Technisat SkyStar USB HD (DVB-S/S2) tuners [1] for
> Satellite and a pair of Sony PlayTV devices for DVB-T.
>
> This has been a stable setup for me. Currently running unmodified 3.2.0
> kernel.

In particular, I rate the Sony PlayTV tuners highly. The external USB 
box has good shielding, and provides a single antenna cable --> built-in 
dual tuner solution. Its also cheap and easy to find in regular shops :)

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Marx | 21 May 2012 13:53
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Re: Bad choices of USB cards

On 21.05.2012 12:40, Dominic Evans wrote:
> Technisat SkyStar USB HD
Hmm it's probably good choice, I had mantis based card (PCI) and it was 
working very good.

I today found patch from Igor Liplianin about Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD 
Rev.2
http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/11110/
and will try to patch 3.2 source to try it. Has it chance to work or 
should I download all linux-media?
I was trying to use linux-media-dkms from yavdr but it din't work (it 
was giving errors that modules are bad symbols or sth)
Marx

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Re: Bad choices of USB cards

On 21.05.2012 13:53, Marx wrote:
> On 21.05.2012 12:40, Dominic Evans wrote:
>> Technisat SkyStar USB HD
> Hmm it's probably good choice, I had mantis based card (PCI) and it was
> working very good.
>
> I today found patch from Igor Liplianin about Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD
> Rev.2
> http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/11110/
> and will try to patch 3.2 source to try it. Has it chance to work or
> should I download all linux-media?
> I was trying to use linux-media-dkms from yavdr but it din't work (it
> was giving errors that modules are bad symbols or sth)

Can't apply patch to 3.2.17 sources. Does anybody knows what do I need 
to apply it?
Marx

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Henning Pingel | 21 May 2012 21:50
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Am 21.05.2012 15:09, schrieb Marx:
>
> Can't apply patch to 3.2.17 sources. Does anybody knows what do I need 
> to apply it?
> Marx 

Hi,

The package linux-media-dkms (0~20120507.git265.301694~precise) [1] 
crafted by the yaVDR team for Ubuntu Precise (kernel 3.2) contains the 
patches to make the Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD Rev.2 work. I myself am 
currently testing such a USB box with this driver package. Except for a 
few glitches it works quite well for me (USB box are connected to an 
active multiswitch).

More information on different patch versions can be found here [2].

Cheers,
Henning

[1] 
<https://launchpad.net/~yavdr/+archive/main/+packages?field.name_filter=linux-media-dkms&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise>
[2] <https://bugs.yavdr.com/issues/752>

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W dniu 2012-05-21 21:50, Henning Pingel pisze:
> Am 21.05.2012 15:09, schrieb Marx:
>>
>> Can't apply patch to 3.2.17 sources. Does anybody knows what do I need
>> to apply it?
>> Marx
>
> Hi,
>
> The package linux-media-dkms (0~20120507.git265.301694~precise) [1]
> crafted by the yaVDR team for Ubuntu Precise (kernel 3.2) contains the
> patches to make the Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD Rev.2 work. I myself am
> currently testing such a USB box with this driver package. Except for a
> few glitches it works quite well for me (USB box are connected to an
> active multiswitch).
>

I've tried this dkms a few days ago and it didn't work. Modules made by 
dkms lacked some symbols (I don't know how it's possible if they 
compiled without problem). Maybe scripts doesn't play well with Debian 
kernel (3.2) or maybe I had bad version of kernel headers?

I will try it again, but it lasts very long time to install and 
uninstall this package (don't even think to remove some kernel if you 
have this dkms installed - better remove dkms and then remove kernel 
version)

A few minutes ago I've tried Igor Liplianin's tree from
http://pikacode.com/liplianin/s2-liplianin-v35/
but it also didn't work - card isn't recognized (no dev/dvb).
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Henning Pingel | 22 May 2012 09:49
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Re: Bad choices of USB cards

 Am Montag, den 21.05.2012, 22:47 +0200 schrieb Marx 
 <acc.for.news <at> gmail.com>:
> W dniu 2012-05-21 21:50, Henning Pingel pisze:
>> The package linux-media-dkms (0~20120507.git265.301694~precise) [1]
>> crafted by the yaVDR team for Ubuntu Precise (kernel 3.2) contains 
>> the
>> patches to make the Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD Rev.2 work. I myself 
>> am
>> currently testing such a USB box with this driver package. Except 
>> for a
>> few glitches it works quite well for me (USB box are connected to an
>> active multiswitch).
>>
>
> I've tried this dkms a few days ago and it didn't work. Modules made
> by dkms lacked some symbols (I don't know how it's possible if they
> compiled without problem). Maybe scripts doesn't play well with 
> Debian
> kernel (3.2) or maybe I had bad version of kernel headers?

 Well the DKMS package is for Ubuntu Precise. It contains pre-compiled 
 amd64 modules for the currently valid kernel version of Ubuntu Precise.

 If you install it on a different environment (Debian or Ubuntu 32bit), 
 all the modules will be re-built automatically and this take 10-30 
 minutes depending on your CPU power. Give it a try with an Ubuntu 
 Precise installation to save time.

 Also use the patched dkms package from the yavdr repos. The upstream 
 Ubuntu package dkms contains a bug that causes very slow de-installation
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Marx | 22 May 2012 14:27
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On 22.05.2012 09:49, Henning Pingel wrote:
> Am Montag, den 21.05.2012, 22:47 +0200 schrieb Marx
> <acc.for.news <at> gmail.com>:
>> W dniu 2012-05-21 21:50, Henning Pingel pisze:
>>> The package linux-media-dkms (0~20120507.git265.301694~precise) [1]
>>> crafted by the yaVDR team for Ubuntu Precise (kernel 3.2) contains the
>>> patches to make the Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD Rev.2 work. I myself am
>>> currently testing such a USB box with this driver package. Except for a
>>> few glitches it works quite well for me (USB box are connected to an
>>> active multiswitch).
>>>
>>
>> I've tried this dkms a few days ago and it didn't work. Modules made
>> by dkms lacked some symbols (I don't know how it's possible if they
>> compiled without problem). Maybe scripts doesn't play well with Debian
>> kernel (3.2) or maybe I had bad version of kernel headers?
>
> Well the DKMS package is for Ubuntu Precise. It contains pre-compiled
> amd64 modules for the currently valid kernel version of Ubuntu Precise.
>
> If you install it on a different environment (Debian or Ubuntu 32bit),
> all the modules will be re-built automatically and this take 10-30
> minutes depending on your CPU power. Give it a try with an Ubuntu
> Precise installation to save time.
>
> Also use the patched dkms package from the yavdr repos. The upstream
> Ubuntu package dkms contains a bug that causes very slow de-installation
> of the linux-media-dkms package.

I was using dkms from yavdr, but something went wrong. Now tried again
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Finally everything seems ok. Even DVB-T tuner seems to work.
Marx

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On 23.05.2012 08:16, Marx wrote:
> Finally everything seems ok. Even DVB-T tuner seems to work.
While it compiles and everything seems ok (I can watch or record from 
two cards at once), after a while (half day or so) suddenly I get 
"dvb-usb: bulk message failed", "dw2102: i2c transfer failed.", "INFO: 
task khubd:111 blocked for more than 120 seconds." etc.

I was searching a few days and while there are many people with similair 
problems - nobody can solve it.

I'm starting to suspect that something is wrong with USB ports on my PC. 
I've checked and I connect devices to USB 2.0 ports (while I have 1.1 
ports onboard too)
My motherboard: ASRock E350M1
Does anybody heard about problems with USB on this motherboard?

Now I probably will search for PCIEx card because none of three USB 
cards I own is reliable.
Marx

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Henning Pingel | 25 May 2012 21:02
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Am 25.05.2012 08:40, schrieb Marx:
> On 23.05.2012 08:16, Marx wrote:
>> Finally everything seems ok. Even DVB-T tuner seems to work.
> While it compiles and everything seems ok (I can watch or record from 
> two cards at once), after a while (half day or so) suddenly I get 
> "dvb-usb: bulk message failed", "dw2102: i2c transfer failed.", "INFO: 
> task khubd:111 blocked for more than 120 seconds." etc.

Could you please list all the USB devices you have attached when the 
problem occurs?

Cheers,
Henning

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Am 25.05.2012 21:02, schrieb Henning Pingel:
> Am 25.05.2012 08:40, schrieb Marx:
>> On 23.05.2012 08:16, Marx wrote:
>>> Finally everything seems ok. Even DVB-T tuner seems to work.
>> While it compiles and everything seems ok (I can watch or record from 
>> two cards at once), after a while (half day or so) suddenly I get 
>> "dvb-usb: bulk message failed", "dw2102: i2c transfer failed.", 
>> "INFO: task khubd:111 blocked for more than 120 seconds." etc.
>
> Could you please list all the USB devices you have attached when the 
> problem occurs?
Marx,

Again: Could you please list all the USB devices you have attached when 
the problem occurs?

It's a bit frustrating when people ask for help, get help and then 
vanish from the discussion.

Cheers,
Henning

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W dniu 2012-05-27 14:52, Henning Pingel pisze:
> Am 25.05.2012 21:02, schrieb Henning Pingel:
>> Am 25.05.2012 08:40, schrieb Marx:
>>> On 23.05.2012 08:16, Marx wrote:
>>>> Finally everything seems ok. Even DVB-T tuner seems to work.
>>> While it compiles and everything seems ok (I can watch or record from
>>> two cards at once), after a while (half day or so) suddenly I get
>>> "dvb-usb: bulk message failed", "dw2102: i2c transfer failed.",
>>> "INFO: task khubd:111 blocked for more than 120 seconds." etc.
>>
>> Could you please list all the USB devices you have attached when the
>> problem occurs?
> Marx,
>
> Again: Could you please list all the USB devices you have attached when
> the problem occurs?
>
> It's a bit frustrating when people ask for help, get help and then
> vanish from the discussion.
Sorry I was away.
I have three USB devices (2 different DVB-S2 tuners and one DVB-T), but 
problems exists even if I use only one of them.
Actually the only device I use is Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD Rev.2

wuwek:~# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
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In article <5f5o89-7n7.ln1 <at> wuwek.kopernik.gliwice.pl> you write:
>Hello
Hi!

>I use VDR a few years, but lately I changed my system into ITX (AMD 
>Brazos) and so changed PCI DVB-S2 card into USB. Additionaly I has 
>bought DVB-T tuner.
>While buying hardware I was sure I buy hardware which is supported 
>in-kernel, so no need to hunt for driver.
>Unfortunatelly every from three card I have doesn't work properly.
>
>The first: Terratec Cinergy S2 USB HD.
>Kernel has drivers, but only for the first revision. Second revision 
>which I have need a patch. Patch is even on linux-media 
>http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/10294/ , but isn't finished so no 
>hope to have it in kernel soon.
>Anyway I have applied it's modified version from 
>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653026 to kernel 3.2 
>and it's almost work. Almost, because sometimes recording becames 
>unplayable. Recording recors eveything, but I can play only some part of 
>file from beginning. The rest is unplayable.
>
>Looking for something widely used I choosed Pinnacle PCTV SAT HDTV 452E 
>PRO USB. Problems with it i've described in thread: "[PATCH, RFC] 
>STB0899 signal strength (pctv452e, others too?)"
>
I have been using this card on FreeBSD as well as its `cousin'
TT S2-3600 which uses the same driver with various versions of
webcamd which used various versions of the Linux v4l/dvb tree
(media_tree), first with bits from s2-liplianin merged in and since
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> Also I wold welcome advice, which from those rather cheap USB cards
> works without any problems on stock linux kernel.

Hi, I just bought 19 euro Fujitech DVT Pro DVB-T usb stick which
seems to use Realtek RTL2832U chipset. USB stick also includes small
remote control, but I have not tested yet whether that can be used from
linux.

lsusb shows the device as:
1d19:1101 Dexatek Technology Ltd. DK DVB-T Dongle

Driver is not in the mainline kernel, but driver version which builded
ok with 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2 (mageia) kernel was available in
git://github.com/tmair/DVB-Realtek-RTL2832U-2.2.2-10tuner-mod_kernel-3.0.0.git.
According to it's readme the same chipset is also in use with following
other usb sticks:

  DIKOM USB-DVBT HD (ID 1b80:d394)
  NILOX DVB-T Stick N15 (ID 1b80:d393)
  TRUST 16738 (ID 0bda:2832)
  TERRATEC Cinergy T Stick BLACK (ID 0ccd:00a9)
  TX Hollywood DVTB (ID 1d19:1101)
  DIGIVOX mini II v3.0 (ID 1d19:1101)

Installation for me was easy operation with steps written down below:
1) git clone
git://github.com/tmair/DVB-Realtek-RTL2832U-2.2.2-10tuner-mod_kernel-3.0.0.git
2) cd
DVB-Realtek-RTL2832U-2.2.2-10tuner-mod_kernel-3.0.0/RTL2832-2.2.2_kernel-3.0.0
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