Hi,
Bitsavers seems to have added lots of Symbolics material to their PDF
archive.
Here is a mirror site:
http://bitsavers.vt100.net/pdf/symbolics/
Regards,
Rainer Joswig
Rainer Joswig, Hamburg, Germany
http://lispm.dyndns.org/
mailto:joswig <at> lisp.de
Wow, the big-red-cover Lisp Machine Summary document! Takes me back...
Hi,
Bitsavers seems to have added lots of Symbolics material to their PDF archive.
Here is a mirror site:
http://bitsavers.vt100.net/pdf/symbolics/
Regards,
Rainer Joswig
Rainer Joswig, Hamburg, Germany
http://lispm.dyndns.org/
mailto:joswig <at> lisp.de
Antediluvian http://www.asl.dsl.pipex.com/symbolics/doc/index.html 1981 LMM, before color even. Does anyone know how we stand with putting such history up on the web (re. copyright etc)? At 7:21 AM -0700 09/03/13, Bill York wrote: >Wow, the big-red-cover Lisp Machine Summary document! Takes me back...
>>>>> "p" == peter <p2.edoc <at> googlemail.com> writes:
p> Does anyone know how we stand with putting such history up on
p> the web (re. copyright etc)?
Are you asking if it's a violation of copyright to photograph the
spines of your books on the bookshelf? I hope not. But I could
certainly imagine an old Lisper asking such a thing.
I suppose you are so brilliant that even the titles of your books have
to be protected from the unwashed thieving masses, are you? Maybe I
have to pay $10,000 if I want to look at the book, and $100,000 to
read it? or, maybe not, but you want to make sure your employer is
free to strike such a deal at a later date---wouldn't want to bite the
hand that once fed you?
as for scanning the contents and posting it, ``I double-dog dare
you.'' I think there are <cough> a few people who might have gotten
that leaked copy of OpenGenera posted to Piratebay, and then a free
copy of Tru64 under HP's developers and enthusiasts program, who might
be able to use some manuals to go with it (if said people ever bother
to quit running NetBSD on their alphas).
Now that greed and arrogance has demolished their entire professional
culture and everything they spent their lives creating, maybe there
are some grouchy jaded old men who would like some of their work to
survive them, after having failed so spectacularly in the marketplace
on the terms at which they chose to engage it, repeatedly, in one
dying gasp after another. If not, well then I suppose it won't---give
the dusty books to your laughing, eye-rolling grandson.
On 13 Mar 2009, at 20:52, Miles Nordin wrote: > Are you asking if it's a violation of copyright to photograph the > spines of your books on the bookshelf? Obviously, he was asking if it was in breach of copyright to post the contents. I'm not quite sure what you were trying to say, if anything, but you don't seem to have addressed the actual question at all. Which is a shame, as it's an interesting problem - not just for Symbolics materials, but for old-and-no-longer-commercially-valuable material in general. I've often thought that it would be reasonable if the maximum penalty for a violation of copyright was bounded by the possibly commercial value, which here would, I guess, be zero or very close to that. But that actually doesn't work very well, because it would mean that if someone stole (for instance) copies of my collection of photographs, which clearly have no commercial value at all, I would have no recourse, when they *do* have great value to me and (on privacy grounds) I don't want them spewed all over the net. Copyright is a complicated issue, and there are no glib solutions. --tim
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