Dister Kemp | 11 Apr 08:24

Selective mailpart deletion in IMAP.

Hello list,

      I was wondering if IMAP server (the protocol) supports selective
mailpart deletion
instead of deleting the entire message. If so, is it supported by
c-client's IMAP client too?
If not, is it possible to mimic this behavior in the client side ?

Appreciate your clarifications.

Thanks
-Dister
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Mark Crispin | 11 Apr 09:13

Re: Selective mailpart deletion in IMAP.

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Dister Kemp wrote:
>      I was wondering if IMAP server (the protocol) supports selective 
> mailpart deletion instead of deleting the entire message.

No.  Messages are static.  The only way to "delete a part of a message" is 
to make a new copy of the message with the desired part deleted, then 
delete and expunge the original.

> If so, is it 
> supported by c-client's IMAP client too?

No, since it is not part of IMAP.

> If not, is it possible to mimic 
> this behavior in the client side ?

c-client does not do this.  An application program can do so (I believe 
that Alpine does) by fetching the message and saving a new copy that omits 
the content that you wish deleted.

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Dister Kemp | 14 Apr 14:46

Re: Selective mailpart deletion in IMAP.

Thanks Mark for the quick clarifications.
I would think this is one of the promising features supported by
Thunderbird and Outlook.
I will look into Alpine. I thought the next step in this direction would be for
the server side mail protocol itself to support it. Is there a plan on this?

Thanks
Dister

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Mark Crispin <mrc <at> washington.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Dister Kemp wrote:
>
> >     I was wondering if IMAP server (the protocol) supports selective
> mailpart deletion instead of deleting the entire message.
> >
>
>  No.  Messages are static.  The only way to "delete a part of a message" is
> to make a new copy of the message with the desired part deleted, then delete
> and expunge the original.
>
>
>
> > If so, is it supported by c-client's IMAP client too?
> >
>
>  No, since it is not part of IMAP.
>
>
>
> > If not, is it possible to mimic this behavior in the client side ?
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Mark Crispin | 14 Apr 15:32

Re: Selective mailpart deletion in IMAP.

There is no plan to support this functionality with a specific extension 
in IMAP.  It is easy enough for client applications to do without such an 
extension.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Dister Kemp wrote:
> Thanks Mark for the quick clarifications.
> I would think this is one of the promising features supported by
> Thunderbird and Outlook.
> I will look into Alpine. I thought the next step in this direction would be for
> the server side mail protocol itself to support it. Is there a plan on this?
>
> Thanks
> Dister
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Mark Crispin <mrc <at> washington.edu> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Dister Kemp wrote:
>>
>>>     I was wondering if IMAP server (the protocol) supports selective
>> mailpart deletion instead of deleting the entire message.
>>>
>>
>>  No.  Messages are static.  The only way to "delete a part of a message" is
>> to make a new copy of the message with the desired part deleted, then delete
>> and expunge the original.
>>
>>
>>
>>> If so, is it supported by c-client's IMAP client too?
>>>
>>
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Oscar del Rio | 14 Apr 21:07

Re: Selective mailpart deletion in IMAP.

Dister Kemp wrote:
> I would think this is one of the promising features supported by
> Thunderbird and Outlook.

A limitation of that feature is that the saved message (without the attachments)
is appended to the mailbox.  If you sort your mail by Mailbox Order (or Order 
Received) the "old" message shows up at the end, with the newer messages.

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Mark Crispin | 14 Apr 21:10

Re: Selective mailpart deletion in IMAP.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Oscar del Rio wrote:
> A limitation of that feature is that the saved message (without the 
> attachments)
> is appended to the mailbox.  If you sort your mail by Mailbox Order (or Order 
> Received) the "old" message shows up at the end, with the newer messages.

That is unavoidable.  IMAP messages are static.

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