Please can someone help. I may be using mimmj in the near future and have osme questions. I need to be able to subscribe/unsubscribe users vie email. For example set an email to
Mlmmj+subscribe-IrPigkPjf+DYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org
With a body that has a bunch of emails to add.
Can this be done?
Thanks
Cody
On 01/18/2012 04:47 AM, Cody Moreshead wrote: > Please can someone help. I may be using mimmj in the near future and > have osme questions. I need to be able to subscribe/unsubscribe users > vie email. For example set an email to > > Mlmmj+subscribe@... <mailto:Mlmmj+subscribe@...> > > With a body that has a bunch of emails to add. > > Can this be done? > > Thanks > > Cody It's not working with what's in the body. Instead, you'd have to tweak what's in the headers, and send multiple emails. Alternatively, you could just write a script that would write in the subscriber.d folder by yourself. I do that (on a web GUI), and it works very well. Thomas
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:47:39 -0700, "Cody Moreshead" <cody@...> wrote: > Please can someone help. I may be using mimmj in the near future and > have some questions. I need to be able to subscribe/unsubscribe users > via email. A year ago I asked, in this mailing list, for the equivalent command to what was being done by ezmlm (which was the main inspiration for the mlmmj project). Which goes more or less like this: 1) An authorized sender (i.e. an email sent from an email address listed in the subscription moderators file) would send an email to an address like: To: some_list+subscribe-john.doe=example.com@... 2) And that would be the same as executing, at the <at> domain.tld mailing list server console, this command: /usr/bin/mlmmj-sub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/some_list -a some.user@... 3) The subscription moderator(s) would then receive the usual subscription aproval email: =============================================== From: some_list-owner@... To: some_list-moderators@... Reply-To: some_list+moderate-subscribe2d381ca04db6edd3@... Hi, this is the mlmmj mailer managing the mailinglist some_list@... There is a subscription request from some.user@... waiting. To approve this request, please send a reply to some_list+moderate-subscribe2d381ca04db6edd3@... Your mailer probably automatically replies to this address, when you hit the reply button. If you don't want to approve the request, simply ignore this message. The following subscription moderators have received this mail: some.admin1@... some.admin2@... =============================================== At that time nobody was able to tell me how to do it. At that time it seemed that the current developer(s) tend to favor a much insecure way of mailing list administration (at least for internet sitting servers), namely, some king of rudimentary script to support a web interface. M.
On 18/01/12 7:47 AM, Cody Moreshead wrote: > Please can someone help. I may be using mimmj in the near future and have osme > questions. I need to be able to subscribe/unsubscribe users vie email. For example > set an email to > > Mlmmj+subscribe@... <mailto:Mlmmj+subscribe@...> > > With a body that has a bunch of emails to add. > > Can this be done? Mlmmj doesn't have any functionality like this at the moment. I'm not sure it's very likely to be added, either, because email is so easily forged. Your mail server would effectively become an open relay for a spammer if they could simply forge an email from an administrator to subscribe a huge number of people to a mailing list and then send a message to it for delivery. Is there a particular reason you want or need to do this by email? Perhaps if you explain your problem to us in more detail we could suggest an alternative solution. Using the commandline or a web interface behind some kind of authentication are strong possibilities. Cheers, Ben.
I'll explain what we are doing to see if there is another solution. We have a mail list of ~12,000 people that get a weekly newsletter. We currently have a way to track subscribes and unsubscribes in our business program that is based on SQL. The mailist will be hosted on our ISP's server. What I was hoping is that at the end of each day I could send two emails from the SQL server (easily done) to our ISP that would automatically add and remove people from the list. For various reasons the person that does the newsletter does not want to relinquish control of the additions/subtractions to the list. Thanks for the help Cody -----Original Message----- From: mlmmj@... [mailto:mlmmj@...] On Behalf Of Ben Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:04 PM To: Cody Moreshead Cc: mlmmj@... Subject: Re: [mlmmj] Add Suscribers On 18/01/12 7:47 AM, Cody Moreshead wrote: > Please can someone help. I may be using mimmj in the near future and > have osme questions. I need to be able to subscribe/unsubscribe users > vie email. For example set an email to > > Mlmmj+subscribe@... <mailto:Mlmmj+subscribe@...> > > With a body that has a bunch of emails to add. > > Can this be done? Mlmmj doesn't have any functionality like this at the moment. I'm not sure it's very likely to be added, either, because email is so easily forged. Your mail server would effectively become an open relay for a spammer if they could simply forge an email from an administrator to subscribe a huge number of people to a mailing list and then send a message to it for delivery. Is there a particular reason you want or need to do this by email? Perhaps if you explain your problem to us in more detail we could suggest an alternative solution. Using the commandline or a web interface behind some kind of authentication are strong possibilities. Cheers, Ben.
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 08:24:55AM -0700, Cody Moreshead wrote: > I'll explain what we are doing to see if there is another solution. We > have a mail list of ~12,000 people that get a weekly newsletter. We > currently have a way to track subscribes and unsubscribes in our > business program that is based on SQL. The mailist will be hosted on > our ISP's server. What I was hoping is that at the end of each day I > could send two emails from the SQL server (easily done) to our ISP that > would automatically add and remove people from the list. For various > reasons the person that does the newsletter does not want to relinquish > control of the additions/subtractions to the list. What ability do you have to run other code on the ISP's server? If you have a shell account, you have more than enough ability to do what you want in a much more secure manner. It would however be useful if mlmmj-sub/unsub could take stdin for the list of email addresses to add/remove, instead of having to exec them for each address. -- -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead E-Mail : robbat2@... GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85
Hi, > We > have a mail list of ~12,000 people that get a weekly newsletter. We > currently have a way to track subscribes and unsubscribes in our > business program that is based on SQL. The mailist will be hosted on > our ISP's server. What I was hoping is that at the end of each day I > could send two emails from the SQL server (easily done) to our ISP that > would automatically add and remove people from the list. we had exactly the same problem two years ago. We came to the conclusion that a mailinglist software like mlmmj is not the best solution for a newsletter scenario. We now have a software that is dedicated for sending newsletters. It has several advantages like database imports from our crm software, personalized mails, true formatting for multipart/alternative (you can control the html and text part individually) and several more. We have defined a view in our database which shows all recipients. Every time we send a newsletter, I export this and import it on the newsletter server. This is just two clicks. We use http://www.superwebmailer.de/ but this seems to be available in German only. But I guess there is similar software available in English too. Kind regards, Gerd -- -- Address (better: trap) for people I really don't want to get mail from: jonas@...
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:24:55 -0700, "Cody Moreshead" <cody@...> wrote: > What I was hoping is that at the end of each day I > could send two emails from the SQL server (easily done) to our ISP > that would automatically add and remove people from the list. For > various reasons the person that does the newsletter does not want to > relinquish control of the additions/subtractions to the list. If you have root access to the servers, try this: I. create a SQL script to export the 2 lists as 2 text files: /tmp/subs.txt (will have the emails to be susbcribed) newuser1@... newuser2@... /tmp/unsubs.txt (will have the emails to be unsusbcribed). byebyeuser1@... byebyeuser2@... II. create cron jobs to run a shell command for each list: 05 23 * * * root /usr/bin/test -x /tmp/subs.txt && /bin/cat /tmp/subs.txt | /usr/bin/xargs -rn1 /usr/bin/mlmmj-sub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/YOURLIST1 -a; 20 23 * * * root /usr/bin/test -x /tmp/unsubs.txt && /bin/cat /tmp/subs.txt | /usr/bin/xargs -rn1 /usr/bin/mlmmj-unsub -L /var/spool/mlmmj/YOURLIST1 -a; From then on, at 23h05 you will be subscribing the new users, and at 23h20 you will be unsubscribing those that should not be with you anymore. And if you use 20 * * * * , instead of 20 23 * * * , you will be doing that every 20 minutes. Please note that shell commands inside cron jobs do like to use full paths. M.
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