Ken Hornstein | 3 Feb 2004 08:07
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Re: File upload frustration

>| Hm.  I did some research, and I'm going to have to side with kre on this
>| one.  RFC 2822 clearly states:
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>|    A message-originating SMTP system SHOULD NOT send a message that
>|    already contains a Return-path header. 
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>That's actually 2821, I think.

Whoops, you're right, my apologies.

>It doesn't apply because nmh is not a message originating SMTP system,
>it's just a mail user agent. 

Hm.  If you're using the SMTP mts mechanism for nmh, I'd say that it
was, actually.  I mean, it's speaking the SMTP protocol ... how is
that not a "message originator"?  It seems to fit the definition
of a "originating system" under section 2.8.3 of RFC 2821.

>Even if it did apply, a subsequent sentence in the RFC says:
>
>   SMTP servers making final delivery MAY remove Return-path headers
>   before adding their own.
>
>So it's harmless if there is a return-path header present before
>final delivery.  That's why it's SHOULD NOT rather than MUST NOT.
>So it is allowed.

Allowed, yes.  But certainly going against a "SHOULD NOT" is not
a recommmended practice (and I've heard repeatedly in the IETF,
"SHOULD means it should be a MUST in the next revision").  "Be
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schwartz+l-nmh-workers | 3 Feb 2004 17:04
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| (e.g., "Nmh-Return-Path"), so there is no confusion and it's completely

That's better than nothing, of course.  

So what about Sender?  Will we be allowed to set that header?
And can we make "masquerade: draft_from" the default?

| Actually ... the more I look at nmh, the more I am missing something.
| Nmh, as currently written, if you're using the "sendmail" MTS, is just

I've always used spost.  No SMTP involved.  

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Ken Hornstein | 3 Feb 2004 17:18
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>| (e.g., "Nmh-Return-Path"), so there is no confusion and it's completely
> 
>That's better than nothing, of course.  
>
>So what about Sender?  Will we be allowed to set that header?

Sender, I have no problem with.  That's clearly something designed to be
supplied by the MUA.  nmh's handling of it always seemed a bit odd.
Same goes with Resent-Sender.

>And can we make "masquerade: draft_from" the default?

You mean, the default in the shipped mts.conf, or the default without any
entry in the mts.conf?  I think I'd prefer the former, rather than the
latter.

--Ken

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