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pingames | 17 Jul 2009 18:28
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What happens to the 01 files?

On BNR2, lately I have seeing all the "final" files having extensions
of "02-39" where 39 is the last section. What happened to the "01" part so the rar could complete? I bring down
BNR2, delete the MsgLst.bnr
file, and reload the .nzb file with no success. I even edit the nzb file
to just load in the "1" sections, but that does not work. Has anyone seen this?

This seems to be a new issue, I have been happily using BNR2 for years.
Thanks for any insight.

Frank

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Lenny_Nero | 25 Jul 2009 05:08
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Re: What happens to the 01 files?

pingames said

> On BNR2, lately I have seeing all the "final" files having extensions of
> "02-39" where 39 is the last section. What happened to the "01" part so
> the rar could complete? I bring down BNR2, delete the MsgLst.bnr file,
> and reload the .nzb file with no success. I even edit the nzb file to
> just load in the "1" sections, but that does not work. Has anyone seen
> this?
> 
> This seems to be a new issue, I have been happily using BNR2 for years.
> Thanks for any insight.
> 
> Frank

On usenet the files are split into parts, from the look of it what you are
getting had 39, if some parts of the file are missing from the server
there are not there to get. Does this happen with all files or just this
one ?

Also there is a setting that gives the first part a higher score so BNR
gets them first (they have important info to help the parts join) some how
you could have got the 01 parts and then lost them, or changed the
directory, that is why when you re-loaded the .nzb it did not get then
again, because from its records it had got them.

There is a switch on the tab you get when you load .nzb file (1 of 3,
middle one IIRC) that tells BNR to "get parts again even if got already"
reload the .nzb with this switch checked. But you need to find why the
parts were not in the same place as the rest.
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Frank Giarratana | 29 Jul 2009 16:28
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Re: Re: What happens to the 01 files?

Hi Lenny

   Thank you for your thoughtful reply!

   Funny that this has never happened, and hasn't since. ALL 01 files were missing for that load, even the
.01's for the pars so they could not be fixed! Interesting, huh? For awhile it looked like a conspiracy to
me! It went away, luckily. No, I did not have that middle box checked, will keep it that way in the future though.

  Thanks again.

Regards,
Frank

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Subject: [BNR] Re: What happens to the 01 files?
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Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 11:08 PM

 

    
                  pingames said

> On BNR2, lately I have seeing all the "final" files having extensions of

> "02-39" where 39 is the last section. What happened to the "01" part so

> the rar could complete? I bring down BNR2, delete the MsgLst.bnr file,
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Brian Kraft | 9 Sep 2009 23:41
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Re: What happens to the 01 files?

Frank Giarratana wrote:

> Funny that this has never happened, and hasn't since. ALL 01 files
> were missing for that load, even the .01's for the pars so they could
> not be fixed! Interesting, huh? For awhile it looked like a
> conspiracy to me! It went away, luckily. No, I did not have that
> middle box checked, will keep it that way in the future though.

This is almost certainly the result of a DMCA takedown notice.
The larger PAR2 files will have usable recovery blocks in them even if
the first article for the file was removed, so that post was probably
repairable.  A cheap non-expiring block account server at a lower
priority will fill in the 01 pieces without using up much of your
block, it can last for years that way, and no repairs are needed.
When people come up against these partial DMCA removals they give up
far too easily, so don't.
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pingames | 16 Sep 2009 21:00
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Re: What happens to the 01 files?

Thanks for the info Brian

--- In bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com, Brian Kraft <bkraft <at> ...> wrote:
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> Frank Giarratana wrote:
> 
> > Funny that this has never happened, and hasn't since. ALL 01 files
> > were missing for that load, even the .01's for the pars so they could
> > not be fixed! Interesting, huh? For awhile it looked like a
> > conspiracy to me! It went away, luckily. No, I did not have that
> > middle box checked, will keep it that way in the future though.
> 
> This is almost certainly the result of a DMCA takedown notice.
> The larger PAR2 files will have usable recovery blocks in them even if
> the first article for the file was removed, so that post was probably
> repairable.  A cheap non-expiring block account server at a lower
> priority will fill in the 01 pieces without using up much of your
> block, it can last for years that way, and no repairs are needed.
> When people come up against these partial DMCA removals they give up
> far too easily, so don't.
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Lenny_Nero | 12 Aug 2009 21:35
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Re: Re: What happens to the 01 files?

Frank Giarratana said

> Hi Lenny
> 
>    Thank you for your thoughtful reply!
> 
>    Funny that this has never happened, and hasn't since. ALL 01
> files were missing for that load, even the .01's for the pars so they
> could not be fixed! Interesting, huh? For awhile it looked like a
> conspiracy to me! It went away, luckily. No, I did not have that middle
> box checked, will keep it that way in the future though.
> 
>   Thanks again.
> 
> Regards,
> Frank

Glad I could offer some help, that middle switch is only really needed if
you want to force BNR to reload the parts from the .nzb file again, its
not needed if its working fine without it.

I cant think of any way, other that what has been said, as to why this
happened ...but if its not doing so now, all is good  :)

L_N

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Archie | 15 Aug 2009 16:18
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--- In bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com, Lenny_Nero <Lenny_Nero <at> ...> wrote:
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> 
> I cant think of any way, other that what has been said, as to why this
> happened ...but if its not doing so now, all is good  :)
> 
> L_N
> 

I have noticed this happening when the file has been posted twice. One set of parts combines normally into
the file while second file ends up downloading only as the parts with the 01 part missing.

Archie 

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Lenny_Nero | 21 Aug 2009 12:13
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Archie said

> --- In bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com, Lenny_Nero <Lenny_Nero <at> ...> wrote:
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>>
>> I cant think of any way, other that what has been said, as to why this
>> happened ...but if its not doing so now, all is good  :)
>> 
>> L_N
>> 
>> 
> I have noticed this happening when the file has been posted twice. One
> set of parts combines normally into the file while second file ends up
> downloading only as the parts with the 01 part missing.
> 
> Archie

I doubt that it would work that way if the .nzb file had been used because
they use the Msg-Id to get the parts and they are very unique to each part
used. In fact there is a setting under the server tab IIRC that I always
switch on that forces BNR to only use the Msg-Id (over Art. numbers) then
you could never have this sort of problem.

But I 'spose, if the server you were using has some numbering problems,
and their history file was very short and you had BNR set to only use the
article numbers and the msglst had some sort of problem then it might go
that way for some strange and unknown reason.

L_N
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