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Nick Matavka | 28 May 2012 07:42
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[gopher] Mosaic-CK and gopher supportq

Gents:

I downloaded Mosaic-CK today and, for a lark, tried it on a gopher
server.  I know that Mosaic and its descendants do not support the i
itemtype, which is, as you know, the most common itemtype in
gopherspace (if you don't know, it's a marker for informational text).
 However, I was shocked to see that Mosaic-CK actually rendered the i
itemtype perfectly.  Who's to thank for this?

Or am I perhaps mistaken---is it IE that mungs up info text, not Mosaic?

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Jacob Dahl Pind | 28 May 2012 09:39

Re: [gopher] Mosaic-CK and gopher supportq

On Mon, 28 May 2012, Nick Matavka wrote:

<snip>
> However, I was shocked to see that Mosaic-CK actually rendered the i
> itemtype perfectly.  Who's to thank for this?

http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/machten/mosaic/vers/2.7ck9.html
"Gopher menus now format correctly, with proper itemtype i and 3 support. "

That is our very own Cameron Kaiser, that somehow have found time to 
make it compile on a moden system and at the same time update it a bit.

<massiv snip of ascii man gone>

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Bradley D. Thornton | 28 May 2012 10:05
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Re: [gopher] Mosaic-CK and gopher supportq


On 05/28/2012 12:39 AM, Jacob Dahl Pind wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012, Nick Matavka wrote:
> 
> <snip>
>> However, I was shocked to see that Mosaic-CK actually rendered the i
>> itemtype perfectly.  Who's to thank for this?
> 
> http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/machten/mosaic/vers/2.7ck9.html
> "Gopher menus now format correctly, with proper itemtype i and 3 support. "
> 
> That is our very own Cameron Kaiser, that somehow have found time to
> make it compile on a moden system and at the same time update it a bit.

Well now! Them Muir boiz are just full of surprises aren't they? ;)

Kindest regards,

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Nick Matavka | 29 May 2012 00:19
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Re: [gopher] Mosaic-CK and gopher supportq

On 28 May 2012 03:39, Jacob Dahl Pind <rachael@...> wrote:
> That is our very own Cameron Kaiser, that somehow have found time to make it
> compile on a moden system and at the same time update it a bit.

Doc's a techno-wizard :-)

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Nick Matavka | 29 May 2012 00:56
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Re: [gopher] Mosaic-CK and gopher supportq

On 28 May 2012 18:19, Nick Matavka
<n.theodore.matavka.files@...> wrote:
> On 28 May 2012 03:39, Jacob Dahl Pind <rachael@...> wrote:
>> That is our very own Cameron Kaiser, that somehow have found time to make it
>> compile on a moden system and at the same time update it a bit.
>
> Doc's a techno-wizard :-)
>

All this talk about Mosaic and Gopher has given me an idea.  The UI
for Mosaic is actually pretty nice; I like it.  Now that it also
supports Gopher, I was wondering about the feasibility of Mosaic
stripped down so as to support only Gopher, with bookmark support,
let's call it M-Gopher, or Mosgopher.  The size of it would shrink,
since it wouldn't need HTTP (not that the Mosaic HTTP rendition is any
good imho, even compared to Lynx).

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   _---'---~~~~-_
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   __~\  ~ /   ~~----,
   \    | |       /  \
   /|   |/       |    |
   | | | o  o     /~   |
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Jacob Dahl Pind | 29 May 2012 09:20

Re: [gopher] Mosaic-CK and gopher supportq

On Mon, 28 May 2012, Nick Matavka wrote:
<snip>
>
> All this talk about Mosaic and Gopher has given me an idea.  The UI
> for Mosaic is actually pretty nice; I like it.  Now that it also
> supports Gopher, I was wondering about the feasibility of Mosaic
> stripped down so as to support only Gopher, with bookmark support,
> let's call it M-Gopher, or Mosgopher.  The size of it would shrink,
> since it wouldn't need HTTP (not that the Mosaic HTTP rendition is any
> good imho, even compared to Lynx).

It havent just learned gopher, it has known that since the
begining, hurl and i type is what was added.

sizewise we are looking at this:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 rachael users 1867964 May 29 08:55 Mosaic*

A stipped Mosaic-ck takes up 1.8mb, are we really to low on memory 
that it would be meaningful to start and poke away at libwww2 to remove 
anything but gopher form it ?
Would be easier to start from scratch, mosaic has a lot crud in there, 
you could spend an ethernety untangling the spagitty, and still be left 
with all the holes.

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Nick Matavka | 2 Jun 2012 15:45
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Re: [gopher] Mosaic-CK and gopher supportq

On 29 May 2012 03:20, Jacob Dahl Pind <rachael@...> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012, Nick Matavka wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>>
>> All this talk about Mosaic and Gopher has given me an idea.  The UI
>> for Mosaic is actually pretty nice; I like it.  Now that it also
>> supports Gopher, I was wondering about the feasibility of Mosaic
>> stripped down so as to support only Gopher, with bookmark support,
>> let's call it M-Gopher, or Mosgopher.  The size of it would shrink,
>> since it wouldn't need HTTP (not that the Mosaic HTTP rendition is any
>> good imho, even compared to Lynx).
>
>
> It havent just learned gopher, it has known that since the
> begining, hurl and i type is what was added.
>
> sizewise we are looking at this:
>
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 rachael users 1867964 May 29 08:55 Mosaic*
>
> A stipped Mosaic-ck takes up 1.8mb, are we really to low on memory that it
> would be meaningful to start and poke away at libwww2 to remove anything but
> gopher form it ?
> Would be easier to start from scratch, mosaic has a lot crud in there, you
> could spend an ethernety untangling the spagitty, and still be left with all
> the holes.
>
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