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Youness Alaoui | 25 Jun 21:55

a few items

Hi all,
I just got a few items here I want to give to you, if someone is  
interested in taking care of those...

First, we want tkdnd for windows to be shipped with our beloved 0.96  
windows release, but you can't just download and use the windows binaries  
available in tkdnd website, because they don't have a pkgIndex.tcl file...  
so here's what you need to do :
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6848
Also, there is tkdnd 2.0 which is alpha state I think, and looking at its  
man page, it looks a lot nicer than tkdnd 1.0.. it all works with  
generated events.. nice huh ? you think we should plan a port to 2.0 when  
it gets out or "if it works, leave it like that" ?

in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you can  
find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing  
something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're free  
to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn crashes.. for  
me, it's a critical issue...

 from this thread :  
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1177&view=next items 4  
(status being reset to 'no activity' even if user has a custom state to  
'away') and 1b (after a quit, the nickname is not restored to its  
pre-custom-state nick) : can anyone confirm that and if so, add it to 0.96  
TODO ?

And finally, the most interesting one :  
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7122#7122
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Philippe Valembois - Phil | 26 Jun 13:44

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Re: a few items

Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you can
> find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
> something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're free
> to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn crashes.. for
> me, it's a critical issue...
Can't reproduce the error...
It only fails with it... The only thing I can do is to update libpng to the 
last version... I let you decide if I do it : it's ready to be committed...
Phil

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Sander Hoentjen | 29 Jun 17:12

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Re: a few items

On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 13:44 +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
> Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> > in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you can
> > find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
> > something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're free
> > to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn crashes.. for
> > me, it's a critical issue...
> Can't reproduce the error...
> It only fails with it... The only thing I can do is to update libpng to the 
> last version... I let you decide if I do it : it's ready to be committed...
> Phil
> 
Are we going to continue to ship libpng? Probably yes, but they should
only be used if a special switch is given to configure, right?

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Youness Alaoui | 29 Jun 21:30

Re: a few items

I would say keep it because we'd need it for compiling in windows for  
example, but do this :
1 - make it use libXYZ if found on the system, use the shipped one if not  
found..
2 - make it use the shipped one for windows and mac binaries
3 - linux binaries should be built WITHOUT those libs statically linked,  
but make them dynamically linked to the libs and have those libs as  
additional dependencies in the packages...
4 - generic packages like bitrock installer (and autopackage IF  
autopackage has no support for checking if those libs are isntalled  
+ install them automatically)
5 - let's update the version we have in the repositories to the latest  
available one!
6 - let's update the version we have in the repositories to the latest  
available one!
7 - let's update the version we have in the repositories to the latest  
available one!

KKRT

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:12:11 -0400, Sander Hoentjen <sander <at> hoentjen.eu>  
wrote:

> On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 13:44 +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote:
>> Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
>> > in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you  
>> can
>> > find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
>> > something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're  
>> free

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Youness Alaoui | 26 Jun 22:08

Re: a few items

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:44:04 -0400, Philippe Valembois - Phil  
<lephilousophe <at> users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
>> in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you  
>> can
>> find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
>> something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're  
>> free
>> to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn crashes..  
>> for
>> me, it's a critical issue...
> Can't reproduce the error...
> It only fails with it... The only thing I can do is to update libpng to  
> the
> last version... I let you decide if I do it : it's ready to be  
> committed...
> Phil

Shouldn't we remove libpng and zlib, and all that crap from amsn SVN ? and  
leave it as a dependency ? add the dep in the configure and we're done ?  
just like what Sander did for FC5 ?
I think it's the best way to do it... the only way it should be.

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Vivia Nikolaidou | 26 Jun 22:46

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Re: a few items

On 6/26/06, Youness Alaoui <kakaroto <at> kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:44:04 -0400, Philippe Valembois - Phil
> <lephilousophe <at> users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> > Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit:
> >> in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you
> >> can
> >> find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
> >> something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're
> >> free
> >> to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn crashes..
> >> for
> >> me, it's a critical issue...
> > Can't reproduce the error...
> > It only fails with it... The only thing I can do is to update libpng to
> > the
> > last version... I let you decide if I do it : it's ready to be
> > committed...
> > Phil
>
> Shouldn't we remove libpng and zlib, and all that crap from amsn SVN ? and
> leave it as a dependency ? add the dep in the configure and we're done ?
> just like what Sander did for FC5 ?
> I think it's the best way to do it... the only way it should be.

Yes, unless they are patched? (I don't know). Then I guess we have to
do the same for tkdnd, but leave it optional.
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Youness Alaoui | 27 Jun 00:07

Re: a few items

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:46:22 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou <vivia <at> ee.auth.gr>  
wrote:

> On 6/26/06, Youness Alaoui <kakaroto <at> kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:44:04 -0400, Philippe Valembois - Phil
>> <lephilousophe <at> users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit:
>> >> in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you
>> >> can
>> >> find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
>> >> something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're
>> >> free
>> >> to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn crashes..
>> >> for
>> >> me, it's a critical issue...
>> > Can't reproduce the error...
>> > It only fails with it... The only thing I can do is to update libpng  
>> to
>> > the
>> > last version... I let you decide if I do it : it's ready to be
>> > committed...
>> > Phil
>>
>> Shouldn't we remove libpng and zlib, and all that crap from amsn SVN ?  
>> and
>> leave it as a dependency ? add the dep in the configure and we're done ?
>> just like what Sander did for FC5 ?
>> I think it's the best way to do it... the only way it should be.
>

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Sander Hoentjen | 27 Jun 08:04

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Re: a few items

On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 18:07 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:46:22 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou <vivia <at> ee.auth.gr>  
> wrote:
> 
> > On 6/26/06, Youness Alaoui <kakaroto <at> kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:44:04 -0400, Philippe Valembois - Phil
> >> <lephilousophe <at> users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit:
> >> >> in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205 you
> >> >> can
> >> >> find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
> >> >> something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ? you're
> >> >> free
> >> >> to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn crashes..
> >> >> for
> >> >> me, it's a critical issue...
> >> > Can't reproduce the error...
> >> > It only fails with it... The only thing I can do is to update libpng  
> >> to
> >> > the
> >> > last version... I let you decide if I do it : it's ready to be
> >> > committed...
> >> > Phil
> >>
> >> Shouldn't we remove libpng and zlib, and all that crap from amsn SVN ?  
> >> and
> >> leave it as a dependency ? add the dep in the configure and we're done ?
> >> just like what Sander did for FC5 ?
> >> I think it's the best way to do it... the only way it should be.

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Youness Alaoui | 27 Jun 08:23

Re: a few items

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:04:59 -0400, Sander Hoentjen <sander <at> hoentjen.eu>  
wrote:

> On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 18:07 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:46:22 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou <vivia <at> ee.auth.gr>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 6/26/06, Youness Alaoui <kakaroto <at> kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:44:04 -0400, Philippe Valembois - Phil
>> >> <lephilousophe <at> users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Le Sunday 25 June 2006 21:55, Youness Alaoui a écrit:
>> >> >> in here : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1205  
>> you
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> find an image that doesn't work with TkCximage.. we plan on doing
>> >> >> something to it ? Phil ? no more plans apart of the rewrite ?  
>> you're
>> >> >> free
>> >> >> to decide, but if some people use this image as DP and amsn  
>> crashes..
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> me, it's a critical issue...
>> >> > Can't reproduce the error...
>> >> > It only fails with it... The only thing I can do is to update  
>> libpng
>> >> to
>> >> > the
>> >> > last version... I let you decide if I do it : it's ready to be
>> >> > committed...

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Sander Hoentjen | 27 Jun 08:34

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Re: a few items

On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 02:23 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:

> humm.. I guess you're right, but can't we set a minimal version ? at  
> least, set it to the one CxImage came with, we don't know about backward  
> compatibility...
Yes I guess you are right
> about your patch, am I dreaming, or is the latest Opera 9 buggy, or did  
> you just forget to include the attachment ?
one of the first two, try to "view source"
Added the attachment again in a slightly different way..

diff -ur amsn~/Makefile.in amsn/Makefile.in
--- amsn~/Makefile.in	2006-04-28 00:10:17.000000000 +0200
+++ amsn/Makefile.in	2006-05-20 10:37:16.000000000 +0200
@@ -50,7 +50,7 @@
 LFS_FLAGS	:= -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64
 LIB_FLAGS	:= -I. -I$(capture_dir) -I$(capture_dir)/libng -I$(capture_dir)/structs
 LIB_FLAGS	+= -I$(webcamsn_dir)/src -I$(tkcximage_dir)/src -I$(tkcximage_dir)/src/CxImage
-LIB_FLAGS	+= -I$(tkcximage_dir)/src/zlib -I$(tkcximage_dir)/src/png -I$(tkcximage_dir)/src/jpeg
+LIB_FLAGS	+= -Ipng -Ijpeg
 LIBDIR		:= @LIBDIR@

 
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@
 CXXFLAGS += -fPIC

 # libraries
-LDLIBS  := @LDLIBS@

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Youness Alaoui | 27 Jun 09:09

Re: a few items

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:34:14 -0400, Sander Hoentjen <sander <at> hoentjen.eu>  
wrote:

> On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 02:23 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
>
>> humm.. I guess you're right, but can't we set a minimal version ? at
>> least, set it to the one CxImage came with, we don't know about backward
>> compatibility...
> Yes I guess you are right
>> about your patch, am I dreaming, or is the latest Opera 9 buggy, or did
>> you just forget to include the attachment ?
> one of the first two, try to "view source"
> Added the attachment again in a slightly different way..
>

opera 9 bug it seems, this time it went through, but the first time, the  
only way I could see it was to enable the 'view all headers' option, there  
I found it inlined in the source of the mail.. without the option I could  
only see the text :
attachment:/129/amsn-0.96-tkcximage-locallibs.patch

but nothing more...
(When you open an attachment in an email, it uses this type of url.. but  
that doesn't work)

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Boris Faure (aka billiob | 25 Jun 22:27

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Re: a few items

2006/6/25, Youness Alaoui <kakaroto <at> kakaroto.homelinux.net>:
> Hi all,
> I just got a few items here I want to give to you, if someone is
> interested in taking care of those...

I'm going to have the 2nd part of my exams next week. It will be
finished on 1st july. Then i'd be able to start the project with Tom
about tkhtml.

> First, we want tkdnd for windows to be shipped with our beloved 0.96
> windows release, but you can't just download and use the windows binaries
> available in tkdnd website, because they don't have a pkgIndex.tcl file...
> so here's what you need to do :
> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6848
> Also, there is tkdnd 2.0 which is alpha state I think, and looking at its
> man page, it looks a lot nicer than tkdnd 1.0.. it all works with
> generated events.. nice huh ? you think we should plan a port to 2.0 when
> it gets out or "if it works, leave it like that" ?
For the moment, that beta is crap : no configure .... but looks interesting.
I'm trying to get tkdnd-1.0a into gentoo. As they're searching for
tcl/tk maintainers, that's not easy. That's why, if some gentoo users
are reading me, can you test that ebuild :
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137496 and reply there if it's
working, here if not :D It should work on amd64 and ppc, but i
couldn't add those keywords to the ebuild.

>  from this thread :
> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1177&view=next items 4
> (status being reset to 'no activity' even if user has a custom state to
> 'away') and 1b (after a quit, the nickname is not restored to its

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Sander Hoentjen | 25 Jun 22:16

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Re: a few items

On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 15:55 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just got a few items here I want to give to you, if someone is  
> interested in taking care of those...
> 
> First, we want tkdnd for windows to be shipped with our beloved 0.96  
> windows release, but you can't just download and use the windows binaries  
> available in tkdnd website, because they don't have a pkgIndex.tcl file...  
> so here's what you need to do :
> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6848
> Also, there is tkdnd 2.0 which is alpha state I think, and looking at its  
> man page, it looks a lot nicer than tkdnd 1.0.. it all works with  
> generated events.. nice huh ? you think we should plan a port to 2.0 when  
> it gets out or "if it works, leave it like that" ?

Yes but tkdnd2.0 is not ready for linux yet, only drop, no drag yet (not
that amsn uses drag at the moment but the drop also gave me some error,
even though i ported the code to use the new api (gave the same error
with legacy code) But yes, if 2.0 gets out we should support that (in my
opinion just switch to the new api).

>  from this thread :  
> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1177&view=next items 4  
> (status being reset to 'no activity' even if user has a custom state to  
> 'away') and 1b (after a quit, the nickname is not restored to its  
> pre-custom-state nick) : can anyone confirm that and if so, add it to 0.96  
> TODO ?
did you give the right link here?

>

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Youness Alaoui | 25 Jun 22:22

Re: a few items

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:16:04 -0400, Sander Hoentjen <sander <at> hoentjen.eu>  
wrote:

> On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 15:55 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I just got a few items here I want to give to you, if someone is
>> interested in taking care of those...
>>
>> First, we want tkdnd for windows to be shipped with our beloved 0.96
>> windows release, but you can't just download and use the windows  
>> binaries
>> available in tkdnd website, because they don't have a pkgIndex.tcl  
>> file...
>> so here's what you need to do :
>> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6848
>> Also, there is tkdnd 2.0 which is alpha state I think, and looking at  
>> its
>> man page, it looks a lot nicer than tkdnd 1.0.. it all works with
>> generated events.. nice huh ? you think we should plan a port to 2.0  
>> when
>> it gets out or "if it works, leave it like that" ?
>
> Yes but tkdnd2.0 is not ready for linux yet, only drop, no drag yet (not
> that amsn uses drag at the moment but the drop also gave me some error,
> even though i ported the code to use the new api (gave the same error
> with legacy code) But yes, if 2.0 gets out we should support that (in my
> opinion just switch to the new api).
>

ok, thx for the info, how easy was it to port it ?

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Philippe Valembois - Phil | 26 Jun 13:19

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Re: a few items

Le Sunday 25 June 2006 22:22, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> >> And finally, the most interesting one :
> >> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7122#7122
> >> OTR (Off-The-Record) messaging, easy way to have an encrypted
> >> conversation... we won't implement anything, just create a plugin, catch
> >> send/receive messages and pass them to the C library which will
> >> encrypt/decrypt them for us... looks really easy.. download the gaim-otr
> >> plugin and look at otr-plugin.c, you'll see how easy it is, anyone
> >> interested in doing that ?
> >
> > Maybe some day.. :)
>
> yeah.. some day... I hope Phil will be interested! :D
Why not... But my time isn't expansible... :s
Anyway, the end of the week means the end of the school year !! :d
After that 2 weeks of holidays before summer job...
Phil

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Sander Hoentjen | 26 Jun 09:19

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Re: a few items

On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 16:22 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:16:04 -0400, Sander Hoentjen <sander <at> hoentjen.eu>  
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 15:55 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I just got a few items here I want to give to you, if someone is
> >> interested in taking care of those...
> >>
> >> First, we want tkdnd for windows to be shipped with our beloved 0.96
> >> windows release, but you can't just download and use the windows  
> >> binaries
> >> available in tkdnd website, because they don't have a pkgIndex.tcl  
> >> file...
> >> so here's what you need to do :
> >> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6848
> >> Also, there is tkdnd 2.0 which is alpha state I think, and looking at  
> >> its
> >> man page, it looks a lot nicer than tkdnd 1.0.. it all works with
> >> generated events.. nice huh ? you think we should plan a port to 2.0  
> >> when
> >> it gets out or "if it works, leave it like that" ?
> >
> > Yes but tkdnd2.0 is not ready for linux yet, only drop, no drag yet (not
> > that amsn uses drag at the moment but the drop also gave me some error,
> > even though i ported the code to use the new api (gave the same error
> > with legacy code) But yes, if 2.0 gets out we should support that (in my
> > opinion just switch to the new api).
> >
>

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