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Ben Metcalfe | 28 Jun 2012 21:15
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Re: speed of samba vs Windows

"That's the point. I am
pushing the idea that our problem is not using folder redirection and the
Windows guy is pushing the idea that its samba itself."

Spot-on.
Your windows guy just needs to implement a few AD registry tweaks (see
below etc) to get things working sweetly, and folder redirection (to
MS-Server or samba/linux) is considered to be best-practice in every
microsoft house I've ever come across. No-one uses roaming profiles without
it, unless all their workstations are wired with 10GB ethernet to the most
over-spec'd server I've ever seen, or their users don't actually roam more
than once every six months...

On 28 June 2012 20:09, Ben Metcalfe <bwmetcalfe <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's a decent summary of roaming profiles on the latest windows
> iterations.
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh848267
>
> "Branche cache" may also be relevant:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831696
>
> WIthout the original windows admin here to query its difficult to be sure,
> but he might well have been talking about having "offline files" enabled on
> redirected folders attached to roaming profiles, which will display an
> rsync-like behaviour when reconnected.
> "Offline files" works on my illumos-based ZFS/samba NAS (the last time I
> checked) indistinguishably from the way it does against microsoft smb
> shares though, so I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work on linux
> samba... or maybe I'm not testing it rigourously.
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Ben Metcalfe | 28 Jun 2012 21:24
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Re: speed of samba vs Windows

...and apologies for doing the "reply to sender/reply to list" thing as
well. :)

On 28 June 2012 20:15, Ben Metcalfe <bwmetcalfe <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> "That's the point. I am
> pushing the idea that our problem is not using folder redirection and the
> Windows guy is pushing the idea that its samba itself."
>
> Spot-on.
> Your windows guy just needs to implement a few AD registry tweaks (see
> below etc) to get things working sweetly, and folder redirection (to
> MS-Server or samba/linux) is considered to be best-practice in every
> microsoft house I've ever come across. No-one uses roaming profiles without
> it, unless all their workstations are wired with 10GB ethernet to the most
> over-spec'd server I've ever seen, or their users don't actually roam more
> than once every six months...
>
>
> On 28 June 2012 20:09, Ben Metcalfe <bwmetcalfe <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a decent summary of roaming profiles on the latest windows
>> iterations.
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh848267
>>
>> "Branche cache" may also be relevant:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831696
>>
>> WIthout the original windows admin here to query its difficult to be
>> sure, but he might well have been talking about having "offline files"
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Todor Fassl | 28 Jun 2012 22:08
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Re: speed of samba vs Windows

From: "Ben Metcalfe" <bwmetcalfe <at> gmail.com>
To: <samba <at> lists.samba.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Samba] speed of samba vs Windows

>
> On 28 June 2012 20:15, Ben Metcalfe <bwmetcalfe <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "That's the point. I am
>> pushing the idea that our problem is not using folder redirection and the
>> Windows guy is pushing the idea that its samba itself."
>>
>> Spot-on.
>> Your windows guy just needs to implement a few AD registry tweaks (see
>> below etc) to get things working sweetly,

Well, that is not going to happen.

Eh -- maybe if I can persuade the boss.  But I think if this is going to get 
fixed, I am going to have to fix it myself. But that is probably fair 
because I think I probably messed it up.  I believe folder redirection was 
working at one time under my predecessor.  I believe I messed it up when I 
built a new file server. I have a vague memory of choosing to not copy some 
files  in the root of the netlogon share over to the new server not knowing 
what they were for. My predecessor left a lot of stuff just lying around. I 
mean, who doesn't? So I thought they were extraneous and when the domain 
seemed to work find for a few months, I figured it was okay to reformat the 
hard drive on the old server.

We are just now making the switch from XP to Win7. I understand that XP and
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Jorell | 28 Jun 2012 23:05

Re: speed of samba vs Windows

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> We are just now making the switch from XP to Win7. I understand that XP
> and Win7 profiles are not compatible. If we have to have our Windows
> users (and there aren't that many) create new profiles, maybe I can make
> sure they get created with full folder redirection implemented.   Even
> if we have to migrate the profiles (and I have no idea oif that is even
> possible) maybe we can also add the appropriate registry keys.
>
>

I believe when you enable folder redirection for the first time the 
files will get moved to the redirected location.

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Ben Metcalfe | 29 Jun 2012 00:37
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Re: speed of samba vs Windows

"Well, that is not going to happen."

Needs to happen for stuff to work right. Vista and Windows 7 needs to be
told how to handle time stamps on Samba shares or data gets copied twice
*needlessly* during the logon process. Setting up the correct registry
entry *RoundUpWriteTimeOnSync* in some very simple group policy should be
trivial for your windows guy and roughly double your logon speed. You all
win, and he won't have broken anything. He can follow a microsoft approved
technique from technet.com:

http://blogs.technet.com/b/filecab/archive/2007/03/16/using-offline-files-with-samba-emc-servers-nas-devices.aspx

or just ask him to search as follows:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=RoundUpWriteTimeOnSync

and he'll be convinced.

On 28 June 2012 21:08, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> From: "Ben Metcalfe" <bwmetcalfe <at> gmail.com>
> To: <samba <at> lists.samba.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:24 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Samba] speed of samba vs Windows
>
>
>
>> On 28 June 2012 20:15, Ben Metcalfe <bwmetcalfe <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  "That's the point. I am
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