Kevin Driscoll | 11 Jul 16:11

FCC chief says Comcast violated Internet rules

The title says it all.

"Martin will circulate an order recommending enforcement action
against the company on Friday among his fellow commissioners, who will
vote on the measure at an open meeting on Aug. 1."

Kevin

--

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080711/ap_on_hi_te/internet_regulation

FCC chief says Comcast violated Internet rules

By JOHN DUNBAR, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 4 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The head of the Federal Communications Commission said
Thursday he will recommend that the nation's largest cable company be
punished for violating agency principles that guarantee customers open
access to the Internet.
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The potentially precedent-setting move stems from a complaint against
Comcast Corp. that the company had blocked Internet traffic among
users of a certain type of "file sharing" software that allows them to
exchange large amounts of data.

"The commission has adopted a set of principles that protects
consumers access to the Internet," FCC Chairman Kevin Martin told The
Associated Press late Thursday. "We found that Comcast's actions in
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Karen Rustad | 12 Jul 15:44

Re: FCC chief says Comcast violated Internet rules

As someone who has been a Comcast customer-by-default since graduation, all I can say is YAAAAYYYYYYYY!

I really hope they get smacked into next week.

-- Karen

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Kevin Driscoll <driscollkevin <at> gmail.com> wrote:
The title says it all.

"Martin will circulate an order recommending enforcement action
against the company on Friday among his fellow commissioners, who will
vote on the measure at an open meeting on Aug. 1."

Kevin

--

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080711/ap_on_hi_te/internet_regulation
Identica
 

FCC chief says Comcast violated Internet rules

By JOHN DUNBAR, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 4 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The head of the Federal Communications Commission said
Thursday he will recommend that the nation's largest cable company be
punished for violating agency principles that guarantee customers open
access to the Internet.
ADVERTISEMENT

The potentially precedent-setting move stems from a complaint against
Comcast Corp. that the company had blocked Internet traffic among
users of a certain type of "file sharing" software that allows them to
exchange large amounts of data.

"The commission has adopted a set of principles that protects
consumers access to the Internet," FCC Chairman Kevin Martin told The
Associated Press late Thursday. "We found that Comcast's actions in
this instance violated our principles."

Martin said Comcast has "arbitrarily" blocked Internet access,
regardless of the level of traffic, and failed to disclose to
consumers that it was doing so.

Company spokeswoman Sena Fitzmaurice on Thursday denied that Comcast
blocks Internet content or services and that the "carefully limited
measures that Comcast takes to manage traffic on its broadband network
are a reasonable part" of the company's strategy to ensure all
customers receive quality service.

Martin will circulate an order recommending enforcement action against
the company on Friday among his fellow commissioners, who will vote on
the measure at an open meeting on Aug. 1.

The action was in response to a complaint filed by Free Press and
Public Knowledge, nonprofit groups that advocate for "network
neutrality," the idea that all Internet content should be treated
equally.

Martin's order would require Comcast to stop its practice of blocking;
provide details to the commission on the extent and manner in which
the practice has been used; and to disclose to consumers details on
future plans for managing its network going forward.

The FCC approved a policy statement in September 2005 that outlined a
set of principles meant to ensure that broadband networks are "widely
deployed, open, affordable and accessible to all consumers."

The principles, however, are "subject to reasonable network management."

Comcast argues that the agency's policy statement is not enforceable
and that the commission has "never before provided any guidance on
what it means by 'reasonable network management.'"

If a majority of commissioners side with Martin, it will be the first
test of the agency's network neutrality principles. Members of both
the House and Senate have sponsored network neutrality bills, but they
have never come close to becoming law.

Large Internet service providers have fought against such regulation,
arguing that it is a solution in search of a problem and that
companies that spend billions on their networks must be free to manage
traffic.

Ben Scott, federal policy chief for Free Press said Thursday night the
FCC's action may have consequences for other Internet providers going
forward.

"This is going to be a bellwether," he said.

Martin, a Republican, will likely get support from the two Democrats
on the commission, who are both proponents of the network neutrality
concept. Those three votes would be enough for a majority on the
five-member commission.
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Nelson Pavlosky | 12 Jul 15:47

Re: FCC chief says Comcast violated Internet rules

Slashdot says there will be no fines, he just wants to make sure that
Comcast phases out its discriminatory traffic management :/

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/12/1153241

~Nelson~

Karen Rustad wrote:
> As someone who has been a Comcast customer-by-default since graduation, all
> I can say is YAAAAYYYYYYYY!
>
> I really hope they get smacked into next week.
>
> -- Karen
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Kevin Driscoll <driscollkevin <at> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> The title says it all.
>>
>> "Martin will circulate an order recommending enforcement action
>> against the company on Friday among his fellow commissioners, who will
>> vote on the measure at an open meeting on Aug. 1."
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> --
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080711/ap_on_hi_te/internet_regulation
>> Identica
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
>> FCC chief says Comcast violated Internet rules
>>
>> By JOHN DUNBAR, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
>>
>> WASHINGTON - The head of the Federal Communications Commission said
>> Thursday he will recommend that the nation's largest cable company be
>> punished for violating agency principles that guarantee customers open
>> access to the Internet.
>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>
>> The potentially precedent-setting move stems from a complaint against
>> Comcast Corp. that the company had blocked Internet traffic among
>> users of a certain type of "file sharing" software that allows them to
>> exchange large amounts of data.
>>
>> "The commission has adopted a set of principles that protects
>> consumers access to the Internet," FCC Chairman Kevin Martin told The
>> Associated Press late Thursday. "We found that Comcast's actions in
>> this instance violated our principles."
>>
>> Martin said Comcast has "arbitrarily" blocked Internet access,
>> regardless of the level of traffic, and failed to disclose to
>> consumers that it was doing so.
>>
>> Company spokeswoman Sena Fitzmaurice on Thursday denied that Comcast
>> blocks Internet content or services and that the "carefully limited
>> measures that Comcast takes to manage traffic on its broadband network
>> are a reasonable part" of the company's strategy to ensure all
>> customers receive quality service.
>>
>> Martin will circulate an order recommending enforcement action against
>> the company on Friday among his fellow commissioners, who will vote on
>> the measure at an open meeting on Aug. 1.
>>
>> The action was in response to a complaint filed by Free Press and
>> Public Knowledge, nonprofit groups that advocate for "network
>> neutrality," the idea that all Internet content should be treated
>> equally.
>>
>> Martin's order would require Comcast to stop its practice of blocking;
>> provide details to the commission on the extent and manner in which
>> the practice has been used; and to disclose to consumers details on
>> future plans for managing its network going forward.
>>
>> The FCC approved a policy statement in September 2005 that outlined a
>> set of principles meant to ensure that broadband networks are "widely
>> deployed, open, affordable and accessible to all consumers."
>>
>> The principles, however, are "subject to reasonable network management."
>>
>> Comcast argues that the agency's policy statement is not enforceable
>> and that the commission has "never before provided any guidance on
>> what it means by 'reasonable network management.'"
>>
>> If a majority of commissioners side with Martin, it will be the first
>> test of the agency's network neutrality principles. Members of both
>> the House and Senate have sponsored network neutrality bills, but they
>> have never come close to becoming law.
>>
>> Large Internet service providers have fought against such regulation,
>> arguing that it is a solution in search of a problem and that
>> companies that spend billions on their networks must be free to manage
>> traffic.
>>
>> Ben Scott, federal policy chief for Free Press said Thursday night the
>> FCC's action may have consequences for other Internet providers going
>> forward.
>>
>> "This is going to be a bellwether," he said.
>>
>> Martin, a Republican, will likely get support from the two Democrats
>> on the commission, who are both proponents of the network neutrality
>> concept. Those three votes would be enough for a majority on the
>> five-member commission.
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William Norton | 15 Jul 17:45

Re: FCC chief says Comcast violated Internet rules

I don't think fining them is what's important.  The crucial issue here is that the FCC makes a firm statement in its order that it has the authority and will address ISPs who throttle traffic.  In the long run that's much more important than whatever slap on the wrist the FCC can impose through fines.  It sounds like Martin is prepared to take this step, which is very heartening.  Only danger now is that he has been meeting with Comcast officials who are looking to settle somehow.  I don't really understand what that would entail, but it would destroy whatever legal precedent that would otherwise be created by this order.

Wm


On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Nelson Pavlosky <nelson <at> freeculture.org> wrote:
Slashdot says there will be no fines, he just wants to make sure that
Comcast phases out its discriminatory traffic management :/

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/12/1153241

~Nelson~

Karen Rustad wrote:
> As someone who has been a Comcast customer-by-default since graduation, all
> I can say is YAAAAYYYYYYYY!
>
> I really hope they get smacked into next week.
>
> -- Karen
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Kevin Driscoll <driscollkevin <at> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> The title says it all.
>>
>> "Martin will circulate an order recommending enforcement action
>> against the company on Friday among his fellow commissioners, who will
>> vote on the measure at an open meeting on Aug. 1."
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> --
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080711/ap_on_hi_te/internet_regulation
>> Identica
>>
>>
>
>
>
>> FCC chief says Comcast violated Internet rules
>>
>> By JOHN DUNBAR, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
>>
>> WASHINGTON - The head of the Federal Communications Commission said
>> Thursday he will recommend that the nation's largest cable company be
>> punished for violating agency principles that guarantee customers open
>> access to the Internet.
>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>
>> The potentially precedent-setting move stems from a complaint against
>> Comcast Corp. that the company had blocked Internet traffic among
>> users of a certain type of "file sharing" software that allows them to
>> exchange large amounts of data.
>>
>> "The commission has adopted a set of principles that protects
>> consumers access to the Internet," FCC Chairman Kevin Martin told The
>> Associated Press late Thursday. "We found that Comcast's actions in
>> this instance violated our principles."
>>
>> Martin said Comcast has "arbitrarily" blocked Internet access,
>> regardless of the level of traffic, and failed to disclose to
>> consumers that it was doing so.
>>
>> Company spokeswoman Sena Fitzmaurice on Thursday denied that Comcast
>> blocks Internet content or services and that the "carefully limited
>> measures that Comcast takes to manage traffic on its broadband network
>> are a reasonable part" of the company's strategy to ensure all
>> customers receive quality service.
>>
>> Martin will circulate an order recommending enforcement action against
>> the company on Friday among his fellow commissioners, who will vote on
>> the measure at an open meeting on Aug. 1.
>>
>> The action was in response to a complaint filed by Free Press and
>> Public Knowledge, nonprofit groups that advocate for "network
>> neutrality," the idea that all Internet content should be treated
>> equally.
>>
>> Martin's order would require Comcast to stop its practice of blocking;
>> provide details to the commission on the extent and manner in which
>> the practice has been used; and to disclose to consumers details on
>> future plans for managing its network going forward.
>>
>> The FCC approved a policy statement in September 2005 that outlined a
>> set of principles meant to ensure that broadband networks are "widely
>> deployed, open, affordable and accessible to all consumers."
>>
>> The principles, however, are "subject to reasonable network management."
>>
>> Comcast argues that the agency's policy statement is not enforceable
>> and that the commission has "never before provided any guidance on
>> what it means by 'reasonable network management.'"
>>
>> If a majority of commissioners side with Martin, it will be the first
>> test of the agency's network neutrality principles. Members of both
>> the House and Senate have sponsored network neutrality bills, but they
>> have never come close to becoming law.
>>
>> Large Internet service providers have fought against such regulation,
>> arguing that it is a solution in search of a problem and that
>> companies that spend billions on their networks must be free to manage
>> traffic.
>>
>> Ben Scott, federal policy chief for Free Press said Thursday night the
>> FCC's action may have consequences for other Internet providers going
>> forward.
>>
>> "This is going to be a bellwether," he said.
>>
>> Martin, a Republican, will likely get support from the two Democrats
>> on the commission, who are both proponents of the network neutrality
>> concept. Those three votes would be enough for a majority on the
>> five-member commission.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss <at> freeculture.org
>> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
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