Tim Hwang | 31 Jul 22:52

FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

At least speaking from Harvard FC's experience and some of the talking
I've been doing with other SFC groups, I've been thinking lately that,
strategically, one really promising thing to pursue much more
aggressively in the future is to build up partnerships with
pre-existing communities that are already poised to be part of Free
Culture without actually being part of it. As a whole, chapters (not
surprisingly) seem to have created good outreach to the techie world,
but on a whole we've got less consistent relationships with the world
outside of that.

I think that the international development community might be great
space for this kind of teaming up on projects. They're plugged in with
a massive ecosystem of organizations who are dealing with a bunch of
intellectual property issues (pharmaceuticals, technology transfer,
cultural product distribution) where restrictiveness is causing real
problems. These are natural allies, and I think Free Culture can play
a big role A) as a connector to the tech world and B) in helping these
groups join up with Free Culture more generally.

In any case, been scheming up some stuff for HFC in the fall. I know
we already have some existing connects with Gavin and the UAEM
(http://www.essentialmedicine.org/) folks -- but wanted to see on the
list if any of the the chapters had any protips/experiences to impart
or had ideas on FC-friendly orgs worth getting in touch with/teaming
up with. Alternatively, if you want to join up with us on projects in
this vein next year -- let me know!

Best,
Tim
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Elizabeth Stark | 31 Jul 23:03

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Completely agree that it would be great to branch out, Tim. I think through OLPC, iCommons, and some other projects we've had a decent amount of contact with people interested in tech and development, but there's definitely room for a lot more outreach. One movement that is trying to bridge the gap between development and free culture is the A2K or access to knowledge movement, which has mainly been spearheaded out of Yale. There's also an upcoming A2K conference in Geneva that I'll be attending (one of my first reactions was that they need to hold events in the developing world as well). In any case, I'll be working on that project next year with Yale, and hope to be able to promote cooperation between the development and free culture communities.

-E

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Tim Hwang <tim.r.hwang <at> gmail.com> wrote:
At least speaking from Harvard FC's experience and some of the talking
I've been doing with other SFC groups, I've been thinking lately that,
strategically, one really promising thing to pursue much more
aggressively in the future is to build up partnerships with
pre-existing communities that are already poised to be part of Free
Culture without actually being part of it. As a whole, chapters (not
surprisingly) seem to have created good outreach to the techie world,
but on a whole we've got less consistent relationships with the world
outside of that.

I think that the international development community might be great
space for this kind of teaming up on projects. They're plugged in with
a massive ecosystem of organizations who are dealing with a bunch of
intellectual property issues (pharmaceuticals, technology transfer,
cultural product distribution) where restrictiveness is causing real
problems. These are natural allies, and I think Free Culture can play
a big role A) as a connector to the tech world and B) in helping these
groups join up with Free Culture more generally.

In any case, been scheming up some stuff for HFC in the fall. I know
we already have some existing connects with Gavin and the UAEM
(http://www.essentialmedicine.org/) folks -- but wanted to see on the
list if any of the the chapters had any protips/experiences to impart
or had ideas on FC-friendly orgs worth getting in touch with/teaming
up with. Alternatively, if you want to join up with us on projects in
this vein next year -- let me know!

Best,
Tim
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Kevin Donovan | 31 Jul 23:12

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Completely agree, Tim. I'm actually studying development and have been frustrated by the divide b/w what I see as such complementary fields. I'm working to bring OpenCourseWare to Georgetown (tips appreciated!) and hopefully it will focus on the role of open educational resources to help developing countries. I'd love to help out with any projects regarding this dev+FC and imagine the folks at http://freedomforip.org/ would, as well.

Best,
Kevin

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Elizabeth Stark <emstark <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Completely agree that it would be great to branch out, Tim. I think through OLPC, iCommons, and some other projects we've had a decent amount of contact with people interested in tech and development, but there's definitely room for a lot more outreach. One movement that is trying to bridge the gap between development and free culture is the A2K or access to knowledge movement, which has mainly been spearheaded out of Yale. There's also an upcoming A2K conference in Geneva that I'll be attending (one of my first reactions was that they need to hold events in the developing world as well). In any case, I'll be working on that pro ject next year with Yale, and hope to be able to promote cooperation between the development and free culture communities.

-E


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Tim Hwang <tim.r.hwang <at> gmail.com> wrote:
At least speaking from Harvard FC's experience and some of the talking
I've been doing with other SFC groups, I've been thinking lately that,
strategically, one really promising thing to pursue much more
aggressively in the future is to build up partnerships with
pre-existing communities that are already poised to be part of Free
Culture without actually being part of it. As a whole, chapters (not
surprisingly) seem to have created good outreach to the techie world,
but on a whole we've got less consistent relationships with the world
outside of that.

I think that the international development community might be great
space for this kind of teaming up on projects. They're plugged in with
a massive ecosystem of organizations who are dealing with a bunch of
intellectual property issues (pharmaceuticals, technology transfer,
cultural product distribution) where restrictiveness is causing real
problems. These are natural allies, and I think Free Culture can play
a big role A) as a connector to the tech world and B) in helping these
groups join up with Free Culture more generally.

In any case, been scheming up some stuff for HFC in the fall. I know
we already have some existing connects with Gavin and the UAEM
(http://www.essentialmedicine.org/) folks -- but wanted to see on the
list if any of the the chapters had any protips/experiences to impart
or had ideas on FC-friendly orgs worth getting in touch with/teaming
up with. Alternatively, if you want to join up with us on projects in
this vein next year -- let me know!

Best,
Tim
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Greg Grossmeier | 1 Aug 00:07

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Kevin Donovan wrote:
> I'm working to bring OpenCourseWare to Georgetown (tips appreciated!) 
> and hopefully it will focus on the role of open educational resources to 
> help developing countries. I'd love to help out with any projects 
> regarding this dev+FC and imagine the folks at http://freedomforip.org/ 
> would, as well.

I would point you to what the University of Michigan is doing.  And not 
only because I am a part of the group working on it.

The difference between what Michigan is doing and what others like MIT 
are doing is that Michigan's is sustainable WITHOUT gobs of money.

At MIT, they have a full time staff that the profs send their materials 
to, if the staff can't clear copyright on a image or something they send 
a request out to someone in India to make a replacement.

What Michigan is doing (just started this past year) is to elicit the 
help of students.  A student who is enrolled in the class will be the 
one vetting the material, asking the prof for citations, and even 
redrawing a flow diagram if need be.  They will be "paid" in class 
credits or a nominal fee (for the Business school students mainly, who, 
at least at Michigan, won't do anything without a monetary reward... but 
I digress).

For more information see: http://open.umich.edu  and 
https://open.umich.edu/projects/oer.php in particular.

Hope that helps.

Greg
Brian Rowe | 1 Aug 01:32

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

I strongly support this direction for FC.  One of the major challenges of forming a chapter at Seattle University Law was the misconception that FC was just about stopping RIAA.  Adding a develping nations focus area to our agenda would do alot to express the philosophy behind FC and broaden our support.  Pharmaceuticals, technology transfer, traditional knowldge, and access to knowlege are all strong focus areas.  Partnering with the UAEM or a Human Rights group on a campaing would be ideal.

-Brian

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Greg Grossmeier <greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Kevin Donovan wrote:
> I'm working to bring OpenCourseWare to Georgetown (tips appreciated!)
> and hopefully it will focus on the role of open educational resources to
> help developing countries. I'd love to help out with any projects
> regarding this dev+FC and imagine the folks at http://freedomforip.org/
> would, as well.

I would point you to what the University of Michigan is doing.  And not
only because I am a part of the group working on it.

The difference between what Michigan is doing and what others like MIT
are doing is that Michigan's is sustainable WITHOUT gobs of money.

At MIT, they have a full time staff that the profs send their materials
to, if the staff can't clear copyright on a image or something they send
a request out to someone in India to make a replacement.

What Michigan is doing (just started this past year) is to elicit the
help of students.  A student who is enrolled in the class will be the
one vetting the material, asking the prof for citations, and even
redrawing a flow diagram if need be.  They will be "paid" in class
credits or a nominal fee (for the Business school students mainly, who,
at least at Michigan, won't do anything without a monetary reward... but
I digress).

For more information see: http://open.umich.edu  and
https://open.umich.edu/projects/oer.php in particular.

Hope that helps.

Greg
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Kevin Donovan | 1 Aug 01:47

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Greg, that's great to hear. I'd look at open.michigan but didn't realize the method in which you were doing it. I've already circulated my draft proposal, but think the ideas you guys are using are great.

All, since this seems to be something supported fairly widely, let's get a session on it at the Conference. (btw, I notice that UAEM is having a conference at Berkeley the weekend after us: http://www.essentialmedicine.org/)

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Greg Grossmeier <greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Kevin Donovan wrote:
> I'm working to bring OpenCourseWare to Georgetown (tips appreciated!)
> and hopefully it will focus on the role of open educational resources to
> help developing countries. I'd love to help out with any projects
> regarding this dev+FC and imagine the folks at http://freedomforip.org/
> would, as well.

I would point you to what the University of Michigan is doing.  And not
only because I am a part of the group working on it.

The difference between what Michigan is doing and what others like MIT
are doing is that Michigan's is sustainable WITHOUT gobs of money.

At MIT, they have a full time staff that the profs send their materials
to, if the staff can't clear copyright on a image or something they send
a request out to someone in India to make a replacement.

What Michigan is doing (just started this past year) is to elicit the
help of students.  A student who is enrolled in the class will be the
one vetting the material, asking the prof for citations, and even
redrawing a flow diagram if need be.  They will be "paid" in class
credits or a nominal fee (for the Business school students mainly, who,
at least at Michigan, won't do anything without a monetary reward... but
I digress).

For more information see: http://open.umich.edu  and
https://open.umich.edu/projects/oer.php in particular.

Hope that helps.

Greg
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Greg Grossmeier | 1 Aug 02:06

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Kevin (or anyone else),

If you are interested in learning more about Michigan's method I could 
put you in contact with the right people.

Greg

Kevin Donovan wrote:
> Greg, that's great to hear. I'd look at open.michigan but didn't realize 
> the method in which you were doing it. I've already circulated my draft 
> proposal, but think the ideas you guys are using are great.
> 
> All, since this seems to be something supported fairly widely, let's get 
> a session on it at the Conference. (btw, I notice that UAEM is having a 
> conference at Berkeley the weekend after us: 
> http://www.essentialmedicine.org/)
> 
> Kevin
> 
> --
> Kevin Donovan
> Georgetown '11: SFS
> www.blurringborders.com <http://www.blurringborders.com>
> 
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Greg Grossmeier 
> <greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com <mailto:greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Kevin Donovan wrote:
>      > I'm working to bring OpenCourseWare to Georgetown (tips appreciated!)
>      > and hopefully it will focus on the role of open educational
>     resources to
>      > help developing countries. I'd love to help out with any projects
>      > regarding this dev+FC and imagine the folks at
>     http://freedomforip.org/
>      > would, as well.
> 
>     I would point you to what the University of Michigan is doing.  And not
>     only because I am a part of the group working on it.
> 
>     The difference between what Michigan is doing and what others like MIT
>     are doing is that Michigan's is sustainable WITHOUT gobs of money.
> 
>     At MIT, they have a full time staff that the profs send their materials
>     to, if the staff can't clear copyright on a image or something they send
>     a request out to someone in India to make a replacement.
> 
>     What Michigan is doing (just started this past year) is to elicit the
>     help of students.  A student who is enrolled in the class will be the
>     one vetting the material, asking the prof for citations, and even
>     redrawing a flow diagram if need be.  They will be "paid" in class
>     credits or a nominal fee (for the Business school students mainly, who,
>     at least at Michigan, won't do anything without a monetary reward... but
>     I digress).
> 
>     For more information see: http://open.umich.edu  and
>     https://open.umich.edu/projects/oer.php in particular.
> 
>     Hope that helps.
> 
>     Greg
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Kevin Donovan | 1 Aug 02:11

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Definitely. That would be a great help. Thanks.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Greg Grossmeier <greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Kevin (or anyone else),

If you are interested in learning more about Michigan's method I could
put you in contact with the right people.

Greg

Kevin Donovan wrote:
> Greg, that's great to hear. I'd look at open.michigan but didn't realize
> the method in which you were doing it. I've already circulated my draft
> proposal, but think the ideas you guys are using are great.
>
> All, since this seems to be something supported fairly widely, let's get
> a session on it at the Conference. (btw, I notice that UAEM is having a
> conference at Berkeley the weekend after us:
> http://www.essentialmedicine.org/)
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Donovan
> Georgetown '11: SFS
> www.blurringborders.com <http://www.blurringborders.com>
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Greg Grossmeier
> <greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com <mailto:greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Kevin Donovan wrote:
>      > I'm working to bring OpenCourseWare to Georgetown (tips appreciated!)
>      > and hopefully it will focus on the role of open educational
>     resources to
>      > help developing countries. I'd love to help out with any projects
>      > regarding this dev+FC and imagine the folks at
>     http://freedomforip.org/
>      > would, as well.
>
>     I would point you to what the University of Michigan is doing.  And not
>     only because I am a part of the group working on it.
>
>     The difference between what Michigan is doing and what others like MIT
>     are doing is that Michigan's is sustainable WITHOUT gobs of money.
>
>     At MIT, they have a full time staff that the profs send their materials
>     to, if the staff can't clear copyright on a image or something they send
>     a request out to someone in India to make a replacement.
>
>     What Michigan is doing (just started this past year) is to elicit the
>     help of students.  A student who is enrolled in the class will be the
>     one vetting the material, asking the prof for citations, and even
>     redrawing a flow diagram if need be.  They will be "paid" in class
>     credits or a nominal fee (for the Business school students mainly, who,
>     at least at Michigan, won't do anything without a monetary reward... but
>     I digress).
>
>     For more information see: http://open.umich.edu  and
>     https://open.umich.edu/projects/oer.php in particular.
>
>     Hope that helps.
>
>     Greg
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Tim Hwang | 1 Aug 09:13

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Kevin,

I definitely agree re: having a session at the conference -- I think
it'd be an awesome meeting point for not only FC people around the
country interested in building more action along international
development lines, but also a way for FC to invite various
unaffiliated groups to come see what the community has to offer in the
way of collaboration as well.

I'll post up an announcement/invite on the SFC blog so we have
something to point to...stay tuned for tomorrow...

Best,
Tim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Kevin Donovan <kdonovan11 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Definitely. That would be a great help. Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Greg Grossmeier <greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Kevin (or anyone else),
>>
>> If you are interested in learning more about Michigan's method I could
>> put you in contact with the right people.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> Kevin Donovan wrote:
>> > Greg, that's great to hear. I'd look at open.michigan but didn't realize
>> > the method in which you were doing it. I've already circulated my draft
>> > proposal, but think the ideas you guys are using are great.
>> >
>> > All, since this seems to be something supported fairly widely, let's get
>> > a session on it at the Conference. (btw, I notice that UAEM is having a
>> > conference at Berkeley the weekend after us:
>> > http://www.essentialmedicine.org/)
>> >
>> > Kevin
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kevin Donovan
>> > Georgetown '11: SFS
>> > www.blurringborders.com <http://www.blurringborders.com>
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Greg Grossmeier
>> > <greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com <mailto:greg.grossmeier <at> gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Kevin Donovan wrote:
>> >      > I'm working to bring OpenCourseWare to Georgetown (tips
>> > appreciated!)
>> >      > and hopefully it will focus on the role of open educational
>> >     resources to
>> >      > help developing countries. I'd love to help out with any projects
>> >      > regarding this dev+FC and imagine the folks at
>> >     http://freedomforip.org/
>> >      > would, as well.
>> >
>> >     I would point you to what the University of Michigan is doing.  And
>> > not
>> >     only because I am a part of the group working on it.
>> >
>> >     The difference between what Michigan is doing and what others like
>> > MIT
>> >     are doing is that Michigan's is sustainable WITHOUT gobs of money.
>> >
>> >     At MIT, they have a full time staff that the profs send their
>> > materials
>> >     to, if the staff can't clear copyright on a image or something they
>> > send
>> >     a request out to someone in India to make a replacement.
>> >
>> >     What Michigan is doing (just started this past year) is to elicit
>> > the
>> >     help of students.  A student who is enrolled in the class will be
>> > the
>> >     one vetting the material, asking the prof for citations, and even
>> >     redrawing a flow diagram if need be.  They will be "paid" in class
>> >     credits or a nominal fee (for the Business school students mainly,
>> > who,
>> >     at least at Michigan, won't do anything without a monetary reward...
>> > but
>> >     I digress).
>> >
>> >     For more information see: http://open.umich.edu  and
>> >     https://open.umich.edu/projects/oer.php in particular.
>> >
>> >     Hope that helps.
>> >
>> >     Greg
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>> >     Discuss <at> freeculture.org <mailto:Discuss <at> freeculture.org>
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Luis Gustavo Lira | 1 Aug 01:21

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

We have been working with international initiatives: Lemelson Foundation RAMP, OLPC, SFD, Google SoC,
NESsT, Ashoka, BiD Foundation and with local organizations: NutriProSalud (Health), Quantum
Solutions (Business Incubation), CIDE-PUCP (Business Incubation), GRUPO-PUCP (Apropriate
Technologies), Telefonica (Rural Telecommunications), CIDESI (Assistive Technologies), CODESI
(Digital Agenda)

--- El jue 31-jul-08, Tim Hwang <tim.r.hwang <at> gmail.com> escribió:

> De: Tim Hwang <tim.r.hwang <at> gmail.com>
> Asunto: [FC-discuss] FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?
> A: discuss <at> freeculture.org
> Fecha: jueves, 31 julio, 2008, 11:55 pm
> At least speaking from Harvard FC's experience and some
> of the talking
> I've been doing with other SFC groups, I've been
> thinking lately that,
> strategically, one really promising thing to pursue much
> more
> aggressively in the future is to build up partnerships with
> pre-existing communities that are already poised to be part
> of Free
> Culture without actually being part of it. As a whole,
> chapters (not
> surprisingly) seem to have created good outreach to the
> techie world,
> but on a whole we've got less consistent relationships
> with the world
> outside of that.
> 
> I think that the international development community might
> be great
> space for this kind of teaming up on projects. They're
> plugged in with
> a massive ecosystem of organizations who are dealing with a
> bunch of
> intellectual property issues (pharmaceuticals, technology
> transfer,
> cultural product distribution) where restrictiveness is
> causing real
> problems. These are natural allies, and I think Free
> Culture can play
> a big role A) as a connector to the tech world and B) in
> helping these
> groups join up with Free Culture more generally.
> 
> In any case, been scheming up some stuff for HFC in the
> fall. I know
> we already have some existing connects with Gavin and the
> UAEM
> (http://www.essentialmedicine.org/) folks -- but wanted to
> see on the
> list if any of the the chapters had any protips/experiences
> to impart
> or had ideas on FC-friendly orgs worth getting in touch
> with/teaming
> up with. Alternatively, if you want to join up with us on
> projects in
> this vein next year -- let me know!
> 
> Best,
> Tim
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Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Luis Gustavo Lira
<dr_complexity <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> We have been working with international initiatives: Lemelson Foundation RAMP,

Are you aware that Jerome Lemelson made his fortune by using a
practice ("submarine" patents) that would likely be strongly frowned
upon by Free Culture?  Submarine patents are a horrible abuse of the
patent system of surreptitiously patenting something, usually obvious,
delaying the filing of the patent (so no one can search for it),
waiting for someone else to come up with the same idea and make it
profitable, and then extorting money them by attempting to enforce the
patent.  I worry that by accepting money from the Lemelson Foundation,
you may be steered toward projects that encourage similar abuses of
the intellectual property system, or at least toward the mindset that
using and abusing the intellectual property system is perfectly fine
because Lemelson did it and got away with it and perhaps even seems
respectable despite it.

My school (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) has formed a
partnership with the Lemelson Foundation, and there are a few of us
(albeit a minority) who feel that the partnership may have been one of
MIT's poorer decisions due to how dirty the money is.

--ken
Elizabeth Stark | 1 Aug 18:56

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Cool. What have you guys been doing with them?

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Luis Gustavo Lira <dr_complexity <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
We have been working with international initiatives: Lemelson Foundation RAMP, OLPC, SFD, Google SoC, NESsT, Ashoka, BiD Foundation and with local organizations: NutriProSalud (Health), Quantum Solutions (Business Incubation), CIDE-PUCP (Business Incubation), GRUPO-PUCP (Apropriate Technologies), Telefonica (Rural Telecommunications), CIDESI (Assistive Technologies), CODESI (Digital Agenda)


--- El jue 31-jul-08, Tim Hwang <tim.r.hwang <at> gmail.com> escribió:

> De: Tim Hwang <tim.r.hwang <at> gmail.com>
> Asunto: [FC-discuss] FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?
> A: discuss <at> freeculture.org
> Fecha: jueves, 31 julio, 2008, 11:55 pm
> At least speaking from Harvard FC's experience and some
> of the talking
> I've been doing with other SFC groups, I've been
> thinking lately that,
> strategically, one really promising thing to pursue much
> more
> aggressively in the future is to build up partnerships with
> pre-existing communities that are already poised to be part
> of Free
> Culture without actually being part of it. As a whole,
> chapters (not
> surprisingly) seem to have created good outreach to the
> techie world,
> but on a whole we've got less consistent relationships
> with the world
> outside of that.
>
> I think that the international development community might
> be great
> space for this kind of teaming up on projects. They're
> plugged in with
> a massive ecosystem of organizations who are dealing with a
> bunch of
> intellectual property issues (pharmaceuticals, technology
> transfer,
> cultural product distribution) where restrictiveness is
> causing real
> problems. These are natural allies, and I think Free
> Culture can play
> a big role A) as a connector to the tech world and B) in
> helping these
> groups join up with Free Culture more generally.
>
> In any case, been scheming up some stuff for HFC in the
> fall. I know
> we already have some existing connects with Gavin and the
> UAEM
> (http://www.essentialmedicine.org/) folks -- but wanted to
> see on the
> list if any of the the chapters had any protips/experiences
> to impart
> or had ideas on FC-friendly orgs worth getting in touch
> with/teaming
> up with. Alternatively, if you want to join up with us on
> projects in
> this vein next year -- let me know!
>
> Best,
> Tim
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Luis Gustavo Lira | 1 Aug 22:35

Re: FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?

Well,

Lemelson Foundation RAMP: my group is developing appropriate technologies for agriculture and food
conservation in rural communities.

OLPC: we have developing hardware applications as biosensors for pathogens.

IDDS: Paola is developing a low cost incubator for premature infants, and the XO laptop is used for monitoring.

SFD: we have been organising the software freedom day event since 2006

Google SoC: we have mentors in OpenMoko, OLPC and Gnome.

NESst: we are in the program for social initiatives

Ashoka: we are in the changemaker competition ,our project has beeb selected by global water council.

BiD Foundation: our project has selected for the match found

Nutriprosalud: Paola is the project manager she is in charge of 3 projects: yacha salud, agrimashup and
cellphones for rural health centers. Vilma and Emma are staff members.

Quantum Solutions: I have been named CEO and work with David and Marcos.

CIDE-PUCP: we did the microtelco project with the support of Telefonica and Motorola

GRUPO-PUCP: we did 2 projects with the support of Coca Cola

CIDESI: we are helping with the infolector project for blind students
http://www.infolector.net

CODESI: we were in the board in 2006 and 2007.

--- El vie 1-ago-08, Elizabeth Stark <emstark <at> gmail.com> escribió:

> De: Elizabeth Stark <emstark <at> gmail.com>
> Asunto: Re: [FC-discuss] FC Reaching Out To Development Communities?
> A: dr_complexity <at> yahoo.com, "Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization in
particular" <discuss <at> freeculture.org>
> Fecha: viernes, 1 agosto, 2008, 7:56 pm
> Cool. What have you guys been doing with them?
> 
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Luis Gustavo Lira
> <dr_complexity <at> yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
> > We have been working with international initiatives:
> Lemelson Foundation
> > RAMP, OLPC, SFD, Google SoC, NESsT, Ashoka, BiD
> Foundation and with local
> > organizations: NutriProSalud (Health), Quantum
> Solutions (Business
> > Incubation), CIDE-PUCP (Business Incubation),
> GRUPO-PUCP (Apropriate
> > Technologies), Telefonica (Rural Telecommunications),
> CIDESI (Assistive
> > Technologies), CODESI (Digital Agenda)
> >

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