Karl Fogel | 21 Jun 2012 18:37
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Timing on Better Letter to Emily White.

I realize this is kind of a presumptuous thing to say, given that it's
Jennifer who has taken on the real responsibility here, but: 

Let's keep in mind that this Emily White thing will be peaking in
people's attention only over the next three or four days.

A response coming out not later than Monday would probably be a good
balance between taking the time to get it right and striking while the
iron is hot.  Jennifer, does that raise any red flags for you?

-K
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Jennifer Baek | 21 Jun 2012 19:26
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Re: Timing on Better Letter to Emily White.

Karl,
 
My Constitutional Law professor liked to say to the people who would participate in class, "No good deed goes unpunished." I don't mind taking on this task. It's rewarding because I've wanted to get more involved with SFC and I'm learning a lot in the process.
 
Timing has definitely been on my mind. I wondered how effective a response might be the longer it takes to get out to the public. Thankfully, tomorrow is Friday. The weekend is a great time (at least for me) to sit down and work on this unencumbered by obligations at my internship. So what I'm thinking is: Monday sounds good. I want to get out a draft by Saturday for everyone to review/approve.
 
To have more impact, we can/should be diligent about sharing the link to our response piece on our respective social media outlets.
 
The more people comment, the more helpful it is when I'm culling together a collective response. Jessica has been of great assistance in reminding us (me) to be careful with our (my) language and concessions (Thank you, Jessica).
 
I like the idea of having an actual reponse letter prefacing the in-line commentary. I think it would be more impactful if people get more than just a Free Culture reaction piece. A visual of  in-line commentary--the side by side comparison of arguments made--will give people more to think about, which will hopefully lead to an informed decision on where they stand.
 
Thanks,
Jennifer

 
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Karl Fogel <kfogel <at> questioncopyright.org> wrote:
I realize this is kind of a presumptuous thing to say, given that it's
Jennifer who has taken on the real responsibility here, but:

Let's keep in mind that this Emily White thing will be peaking in
people's attention only over the next three or four days.

A response coming out not later than Monday would probably be a good
balance between taking the time to get it right and striking while the
iron is hot.  Jennifer, does that raise any red flags for you?

-K

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Karl Fogel | 21 Jun 2012 20:40
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Re: Timing on Better Letter to Emily White.

Jennifer Baek <baek01 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>My Constitutional Law professor liked to say to the people who would
>participate in class, "No good deed goes unpunished." I don't mind
>taking on this task. It's rewarding because I've wanted to get more
>involved with SFC and I'm learning a lot in the process.
> 
>Timing has definitely been on my mind. I wondered how effective a
>response might be the longer it takes to get out to the public.
>Thankfully, tomorrow is Friday. The weekend is a great time (at least
>for me) to sit down and work on this unencumbered by obligations at my
>internship. So what I'm thinking is: Monday sounds good. I want to get
>out a draft by Saturday for everyone to review/approve. 

And I will reserve time this weekend for reviewing/commenting, starting
especially Friday and Saturday!

>To have more impact, we can/should be diligent about sharing the link
>to our response piece on our respective social media outlets.

Absolutely.

>The more people comment, the more helpful it is when I'm culling
>together a collective response. Jessica has been of great assistance
>in reminding us (me) to be careful with our (my) language and
>concessions (Thank you, Jessica). 
> 
>I like the idea of having an actual reponse letter prefacing the
>in-line commentary. I think it would be more impactful if people get
>more than just a Free Culture reaction piece. A visual of  in-line
>commentary--the side by side comparison of arguments made--will
>give people more to think about, which will hopefully lead to an
>informed decision on where they stand. 

Sounds good.  I'd just add this: that I don't think anyone is expecting
you to incorporate *all* of the good ideas that have been and will be
floated on this list and in the PiratePad.  In other words, you can be
ruthless in your culling, to distill this down to a message that will
actually work and be readable by the Emily Whites of the world.  No one
will be offended that their pet response point didn't make it in ---
everyone's on board with having the most effective response possible,
not the longest or most complete one :-).

The Free Culture movement has nothing to apologize for.  It's one thing
if Emily White wants to make choices about whether to download or not;
it's another thing when David Lowery wants to *take away* Emily's
choices, in the service of a monopolistic business practice that wasn't
even designed to help artists in the first place.  We're the ones
advocating for Emily's freedom to choose, not David.

Good luck!  Looking forward to reading more...

-K

>On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Karl Fogel
><kfogel <at> questioncopyright.org> wrote:
>
>    I realize this is kind of a presumptuous thing to say, given that
>    it's
>    Jennifer who has taken on the real responsibility here, but:
>    
>    Let's keep in mind that this Emily White thing will be peaking in
>    people's attention only over the next three or four days.
>    
>    A response coming out not later than Monday would probably be a
>    good
>    balance between taking the time to get it right and striking while
>    the
>    iron is hot.  Jennifer, does that raise any red flags for you?
>    
>    -K
>    
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