MJ Ray | 4 Jan 2007 13:14
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Re: FreeAlternatives: project proposal

"Stefano Spinucci" <virgo977virgo@...> wrote:
> I think we shouldn't present *every* single alternative to proprietary programs,
> but only a polished and well organized list of good free software programs.
>
> Couldn't be this part of the advocacy project ???

Actually, why not work on persuading FSF to release
the FSF/UNESCO Free Software Directory http://directory.fsf.org/
data under a free software licence (not FDL)?

I would help work on adding features like MIME-types, file extensions,
approval voting better indexes and search interface to quagga (the
software running the directory, which seems to be perl/python/
mysql/xml so I can hack it) but I'm deterred a bit because the
database is a valuable part and that's not free software.  Any
features I added to quagga could be used to support the
not-free-software database, so it's not pragmatic for me to hack quagga.

Is there enough interest to start a GPL'd alternative database?

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Alex Hudson | 4 Jan 2007 13:31

Re: FreeAlternatives: project proposal

On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 12:14 +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> "Stefano Spinucci" <virgo977virgo@...> wrote:
> > I think we shouldn't present *every* single alternative to proprietary programs,
> > but only a polished and well organized list of good free software programs.
> >
> > Couldn't be this part of the advocacy project ???
> 
> Actually, why not work on persuading FSF to release
> the FSF/UNESCO Free Software Directory http://directory.fsf.org/
> data under a free software licence (not FDL)?

If you want to do that, please don't use a software licence - they don't
cover the rights involved. 

In particular, in this part of the world at least, there is a database
right which applies, so the data will be covered by both copy right and
database right. Something like the GPL doesn't address the latter; it's
really the wrong tool for the job IMHO.

I guess it would be possible to add an extra license, along the lines
of:

                "This data may also be covered by database rights, the
                rights holders being <persons X, Y, Z> and the year of
                first publication being YYYY. The rights holders
                explicitly give permission freely for any activity
                controlled by these rights."

That ought to be sufficient to allow people to freely copy/extract from
the database without fear of further repercussion, but I would favour a
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Alex Hudson | 4 Jan 2007 13:34

Re: FreeAlternatives: project proposal

On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 12:31 +0000, Alex Hudson wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 12:14 +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Actually, why not work on persuading FSF to release
> > the FSF/UNESCO Free Software Directory http://directory.fsf.org/
> > data under a free software licence (not FDL)?
> 
> If you want to do that, please don't use a software licence - they don't
> cover the rights involved. 

Or a document license.

I don't think the FDL is much use in this scenario, either, just to be
clear :) Not for us Europeans, anyway.

Cheers,

Alex.


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