Glyn Wintle | 10 Feb 2012 12:47
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final gov consultation on Open Standards

Goverment Open Standards consultation has just gone live. This is important stuff
http://consultation.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards/ Please respond
Jon Grant | 10 Feb 2012 13:20

Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

Great to see they prepared their "Open Standards Open Opportunities
Consultation_FINAL.pdf" In LibreOffice

Would have been even better if they had uploaded the Annex A template
in OpenDocument format.

Regards, Jon
Sam Liddicott | 10 Feb 2012 15:38

Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

My comments on: Would this policy support innovation, competition and
choice in delivery of government services?

The policy might be gamed through production of artificial open standards-
that meet the requirements of the policy but which do not have broad vendor
support in that sector.

An infamous example is the Office Open XML specification which enjoyed
little support apart from by Microsoft and required much political
wrangling to receive standards status, in which it has been alleged that
ISO committee members installed with pressure from Microsoft ceased to
function after the standard was ratified, causing real problems for ISO
committees which then had problems reaching a full quorum for further
decisions.

To be simple, the open standards allow wide vendor participation are in
fact a potential benefit which is actually obtained when other vendors
actively and creatively participate.

Office Open XML is arguably a single vendor open standard present not to
deliver benefit to it's users but for it's controllers by expanding their
marking to include customers requiring open standards.

The policy will support innovation and competition if proper consideration
is given to the use and wide support of the standard rather than just the
apparent openness.

Does a promise of non-assertion of a patent when used in open source
software alleviate concerns relating to patents and royalty charging?

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MJ Ray | 11 Feb 2012 08:01
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

Glyn Wintle <glynwintle <at> yahoo.com>
> Goverment Open Standards consultation has just gone live. This is
> important stuff
> http://consultation.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards/ Please
> respond

Thanks for the alert!  It closes on 3 May 2012.  Could people try to
remind the list and let everyone know how it's going about once a
month, please?  Maybe if several of us aim to, we'll manage it!

Thanks,
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Sam Tuke | 13 Apr 2012 18:19
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

On Saturday 11 February 2012 07:01:00 MJ Ray wrote:
> Thanks for the alert!  It closes on 3 May 2012. 

Sorry about the silence over this issue so far, wheels have been turning.

I will be sending an email to all UK Fellows next week asking them to get 
active, submit a response to the consultation, and contact their professional 
bodies.

I'm also doing some planning with other UK NGOs to try and ensure we present a 
strong and consistent message / policy in our respective submissions.

Out of interest the UK team doesn't use this list any more. The main channels 
of communication are:

fellowship-uk <at> lists.fsfe.org - discussion & announcement list for UK Fellows
uk <at> fsfeurope.org - private UK team list - important news etc. can be sent here

Best,

Sam.
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MJ Ray | 15 Apr 2012 13:15
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

Sam Tuke <samtuke <at> fsfe.org>
> Out of interest the UK team doesn't use this list any more. The main channels 
> of communication are:
> fellowship-uk <at> lists.fsfe.org - discussion & announcement list for UK Fellows
> uk <at> fsfeurope.org - private UK team list - important news etc. can be sent here

Out of interest, why is that?  Ordinary free software supporters
cannot join either of those lists.  Don't you love us any more?

Regards,
--

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Sam Tuke | 16 Apr 2012 20:11
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

On Sunday 15 April 2012 12:15:20 MJ Ray wrote:
> Out of interest, why is that?  Ordinary free software supporters
> cannot join either of those lists.  Don't you love us any more?

Ordinary Free Software supporters can join the Fellowship, which I recommend. 
All UK Fellows are on the Fellowship-UK mailing list by default.

They can also join the public discussion list (discussion <at> fsfeurope.org).

This mailing list (fsfe-uk <at> gnu.org) has low traffic, and is not hosted by FSFE.

FSFE loves all Free Software supporters, and tried to provide forums for 
communication for both Fellows and non-Fellows alike.

Best,

Sam.
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Glyn Wintle | 26 Apr 2012 16:09
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

> From: MJ Ray <mjr <at> phonecoop.coop>

> To: fsfe-uk <at> gnu.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2012, 7:01
> Subject: Re: [Fsfe-uk] final gov consultation on Open Standards
> 
>G lyn Wintle <glynwintle <at> yahoo.com>
>>  Goverment Open Standards consultation has just gone live. This is
>>  important stuff
>>  http://consultation.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards/ Please
>>  respond
> 
> Thanks for the alert!  It closes on 3 May 2012.  Could people try to
> remind the list and let everyone know how it's going about once a
> month, please?  Maybe if several of us aim to, we'll manage it!
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 

Just a reminder consultationcloses on 3 May 2012, the response must be sent in by then.
Sam Tuke | 27 Apr 2012 01:18
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 15:09 +0100, Glyn Wintle wrote:
> Just a reminder consultationcloses on 3 May 2012, the response must be
> sent in by then.

Indeed - the deadline may actually be the 1st; earlier this week the
official website stated both dates.

Plenty of information about the consultation, the key issues, and how to
respond here:

http://fsfe.org/uk/

Also a guide to the most important questions to answer here:

http://fsfe.org/projects/os/uk-standards-consultation.en.html

Thanks,

Sam.
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British Team Coordinator
Free Software Foundation Europe
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Ross Gardler | 27 Apr 2012 01:56
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

UK Government open standards consultation deadline extended 1 month
due to conflict of interest row http://t.co/tNuLKNvs

Original Tweet
April 26, 2012 at 10:56PM

On 27 April 2012 00:18, Sam Tuke <samtuke <at> fsfe.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 15:09 +0100, Glyn Wintle wrote:
>> Just a reminder consultationcloses on 3 May 2012, the response must be
>> sent in by then.
>
> Indeed - the deadline may actually be the 1st; earlier this week the
> official website stated both dates.
>
> Plenty of information about the consultation, the key issues, and how to
> respond here:
>
> http://fsfe.org/uk/
>
> Also a guide to the most important questions to answer here:
>
> http://fsfe.org/projects/os/uk-standards-consultation.en.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam.
> --
> Sam Tuke
> British Team Coordinator
> Free Software Foundation Europe
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Sam Tuke | 14 May 2012 13:47
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

On Friday 27 April 2012 00:56:19 Ross Gardler wrote:
> UK Government open standards consultation deadline extended 1 month
> due to conflict of interest row http://t.co/tNuLKNvs

Indeed - I'm curious to know more about that conflict of interest, like who 
knew about it before it was made public, and who forced that disclosure.

Best,

Sam.
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Free Software Foundation Europe
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Glyn Wintle | 17 May 2012 14:08
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Re: final gov consultation on Open Standards

More meetings on gov consultation on Open Standards

http://consultation.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards/events/

Upcoming Events

Roundtable 5: Levelling the Playing Field in the North West

29 May 3.30pm-5.30pm – Manchester

An event focussed on SMEs to discuss:

    How would mandating open standards in government IT affect your organisation?
    If the government adopts open standards, will it make it easier or harder for you to do business with
us – does it help level the playing field?
    Do you have any examples of times when the lack of open standards has acted as a barrier to you doing
business with us?
    What might adopting open standards prevent?

http://bitly.com/roundtable5

 

Roundtable 6: Competition and European Interaction

31 May 1.45pm-4.30pm – London (and via phone)

This event will be a face-to-face meeting but will also have teleconference facilities available for
those unable to join us in person. Topics for discussion include:

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