Katie Capps Parlante | 17 Jan 2008 19:37
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[Chandler-dev] [Proposal] List consolidation

OSAF is now in in a phase of the project with a smaller staff and with a 
need to move quickly and be conservative with our resources. To be more 
focused, my goal is to work as *one* team during this phase, no longer 
thinking of ourselves as separate product, desktop, server, qa, and 
management teams.

We've ended all existing regular meetings, and now have one daily 
meeting with all 10 staff members. We're currently doing this on the 
phone while we get our footing, but may eventually transition to IRC.

I'd like to move our work back to the lists -- they've gone a bit quiet 
since the transition announcement.

At the daily meeting we discussed having fewer lists where we conduct 
daily work. Below is a proposal.

Goals:
- Integrate design and engineering discussions
- Use the same space for "chandler project" discussions, ranging from 
product schedule to design discussions to public strategy discussions
- Keep a separate space for people who are interested in the server but 
not the rest of the project
- Only maintain one list for "core" members to discuss strategy and 
organizational business, including relationships with individual people 
and organizations that might not be appropriate to be public. Note that 
this list would include project members who are not staff members. (As 
always, we want a path to that status for people who have never been 
staff members but grow their role into being key project contributors).

The Proposal:
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Katie Capps Parlante | 25 Jan 2008 01:49
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[Chandler-dev] [Decision] List consolidation

We're going ahead with this proposal.

- general <at> , design <at>  and service-dev <at>  will go very quiet as we move those 
conversations to chandler-dev <at> . If you want to continue following day to 
day management of the project, make sure you are subscribed to chandler-dev <at> 

- chandler-dev <at> 's charter will expand to include discussions about 
product design (both for Desktop and Server) as well as general project 
management for the whole project. It will also include conversations 
about project governance, wiki and websites, project evangelism, etc. 
This list will no longer primarily focus on the desktop -- going forward 
it will be about the development of the whole project.

- cosmo-dev <at>  will retain the same basic charter. Some project management 
conversations will happen on chandler-dev <at> , as we prioritize and 
coordinate work for the whole project as one team.

- Broad product direction and other general interest topics will show up 
on the blog.

Apologies for the cross posting.

Cheers,
Katie

Katie Capps Parlante wrote:
> OSAF is now in in a phase of the project with a smaller staff and with a 
> need to move quickly and be conservative with our resources. To be more 
> focused, my goal is to work as *one* team during this phase, no longer 
> thinking of ourselves as separate product, desktop, server, qa, and 
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Mimi Yin | 17 Jan 2008 23:59
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Re: [Proposal] List consolidation

I think moving design discussions to a consolidated chandler- 
development list is a great idea. I think it will help focus  
discussions around workaday issues. The users list will continue to  
serve as a way for users to ask questions and provide feedback.

At the same time, we should get in the habit of posting more  
regularly to the blog about project status, planning and product  
direction because I think we'll reach a broader audience of readers  
that way. It will help us do a better job of making our internal  
decision-making process more transparent to the community. In the  
past, it's been difficult to elevate high-level issues above the  
minutiae of the design list.

We've already begun posting more the blog, so stay tuned for more!  
http://blog.chandlerproject.org/

Mimi

On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Katie Capps Parlante wrote:

> OSAF is now in in a phase of the project with a smaller staff and  
> with a need to move quickly and be conservative with our resources.  
> To be more focused, my goal is to work as *one* team during this  
> phase, no longer thinking of ourselves as separate product,  
> desktop, server, qa, and management teams.
>
> We've ended all existing regular meetings, and now have one daily  
> meeting with all 10 staff members. We're currently doing this on  
> the phone while we get our footing, but may eventually transition  
> to IRC.
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Brian Kirsch | 18 Jan 2008 00:25
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Re: [Design] Re: [Proposal] List consolidation

+1 on more blogging about high level vision and direction.

-Brian

On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Mimi Yin wrote:

> I think moving design discussions to a consolidated chandler- 
> development list is a great idea. I think it will help focus  
> discussions around workaday issues. The users list will continue to  
> serve as a way for users to ask questions and provide feedback.
>
> At the same time, we should get in the habit of posting more  
> regularly to the blog about project status, planning and product  
> direction because I think we'll reach a broader audience of readers  
> that way. It will help us do a better job of making our internal  
> decision-making process more transparent to the community. In the  
> past, it's been difficult to elevate high-level issues above the  
> minutiae of the design list.
>
> We've already begun posting more the blog, so stay tuned for more!  
> http://blog.chandlerproject.org/
>
> Mimi
>
> On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Katie Capps Parlante wrote:
>
>> OSAF is now in in a phase of the project with a smaller staff and  
>> with a need to move quickly and be conservative with our  
>> resources. To be more focused, my goal is to work as *one* team  
>> during this phase, no longer thinking of ourselves as separate  
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