The Linux ETC Company
10121 Yates Court
Westminster, CO 80031 USA
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----- "Tony Quetano" <tquetano <at> gmail.com
> wrote: -----
> Not to nitpick, but ... WebHostingHub isn't my service. It's a
> service that I use and appreciate. Linux ETC is obviously your
> company, and perhaps if you weren't biased by profit-seeking motive
> you would stop and think "wait ... Linux is about choice! And this
> guy ... he offered another choice! Yay for freedom to choose!"
> Rather, you chose to go the direction of making a blanket statement
> about other hosting companies (rather than making a direct
> comparison against the one mentioned, because really ... whats the
> difference between any service other than yours? They're all the
> same...) and the flaws that they have made in comparison to your
> vastly-superior product. No doubt the design of the website is
> testimony to how much more effort you put into the systems than
> anything else. Now, I'm certain that you've done the research and
> legwork to prove that, yes, every single other webhosting company
> other than yours sucks ... but I was merely speaking out of my
> experience. Granted, being a lowly web developer, I don't have any
> idea what people want when building a website. Usually, when one of
> my clients asks what they should do when building a website, I tell
> them they should talk to a network engineer.
> That was sarcasm, unless it didn't come across. The hubris to insult
> what actually is your primary demographic is even more insulting
> than the insult itself. Its like inception-level insulting.
> <at> Smartboy - you don't need to go with my option, or this salesman's
> option. Do some googling, read some reviews, and talk to people.
> You're bound to end up with a decision you're happy with.
> <at> Crawford - I understand that self-righteousness and arrogance comes
> with the territory of being a Linux fanboy (I often suffer from it
> myself), however condemning even the concept of choice is condemning
> the foundation of Linux itself. I honestly didn't care if Smartboy
> chose my option, I just was providing one that could possibly help,
> and if a different one came along that he preferred more, then more
> power to him. Try and think from the consumer side for once.
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Crawford Rainwater <
> crawford.rainwater <at> linux-etc.com
> Not to start a "my service is better than yours" style flame war
> The difference with Linux ETC is that we were tired of other hosting
> companies "services" (or lack there of) in particular seeing how
> companies would oversubscribe their systems and networks. So we
> decided to do it ourselves at a facility where we know (and own) the
> hardware and network and are allocated such appropriately and
> directly. I can name a few companies in Denver alone as well as
> elsewhere (medium to large scale) that do such all in the interest
> of their own piggy banks, but will refrain on such to stay in good
That is the difference coming from systems and network
> engineers versus web developers these days looking at the same
> We keep it on the level with the resources, and keep it secure as
> well as simple with the systems. Here is your allocated space or
> slice for services and a command line or web portal, go from there
> --- Crawford
> The Linux ETC Company
> 10121 Yates Court
> Westminster, CO 80031 USA
> voice: +1.303.604.2550
> web: http://www.linux-etc.com
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> ----- "Tony Quetano" < tquetano <at> gmail.com
> wrote: -----
> > Personally, I'm a huge advocate of WebHostingHub. I started a
> > freelance web design gig a few months ago, and I am hosting myself
> > and my clients through my single account. You can get super
> > low-level with the server and site setups (custom .htaccess,
> > install
> > apache plugins, etc), choose the PHP version you want to use,
> > customize the hell out of everything. You can also do things really
> > easily from a high-level perspective; they have Joomla and Drupal,
> > a
> > bunch of normal eCommerce plugins (PayPal, OSCommerce, Zen Cart,
> > etc), even a website builder with like 500 templates. Also,
> > unlimited everything. Bandwidth, domains hosted, email addresses,
> > SQL databases, just a nutty amount of stuff. Its also less than
> > $5/month.
> > There's a lot more stuff to it too: http://www.webhostinghub.com/
> > The customer service / technical support are also killer.
> > Seriously,
> > can't rave enough haha.
> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Crawford Rainwater <
> > crawford.rainwater <at> linux-etc.com
> > Linux ETC can and does provide that using Open Source based
> > products
> > in full on the front and backend.
One can use a CMS like
> > Drupal,
> > WordPress, or Joomla as well for a basic (or more "advance" if
> > desired) site as you described below via SSH on the CLI level too.
> > I
> > believe I could do a simple site build in an hour or two (minus the
> > theme side for "cosmetics") personally with what you described
> > below
> > too (not included in the hosting offer of course
> > https://store.linux-etc.com
for the plans and basics. Feel free to
> > email me directly for more details and specific questions as
> > desired.
> > HTH.
> > --- Crawford
> > The Linux ETC Company
> > 10121 Yates Court
> > Westminster, CO 80031 USA
> > voice: +1.303.604.2550
> > web: http://www.linux-etc.com
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> > Be
> > friendly to the environment by saving paper.
> > ----- Smartboy < smartboyathome <at> gmail.com
> wrote: -----
> > >
> > > Good web hosting for small business?
> > >
> > > Smartboy < smartboyathome <at> gmail.com
> Jun 13 11:53AM -0700 Hi, I
> > > am
> > > looking for a good web host for my parents' small business. They
> > > want me to put it on my server, which is run through Linode, but
> > > I
> > > do a lot of experimenting and development on that, and cannot
> > > guarantee uptime. Also, being a student, I don't have a lot of
> > > time
> > > to maintain it as well as my personal site. So, I was hoping
> > > people
> > > here might have good recommendations for web hosts with an easy
> > > interface so they can set up the website themselves. They are
> > > contractors, so all they'll need is a few pages, one of them
> > > being
> > > a
> > > "contact us" page. My mother would also like to showcase her art
> > > on
> > > it so it'll need the ability to create a gallery as well
> > > probably.
> > > They want to keep the cost below $20 a month. Thanks everyone,
> > > Smartboy
> > >
> > >
> > >
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