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headers Ramon Casha | 25 Aug 08:49 · /comp.os.minix/

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One mistake : GNU/Linux.
Ramon Casha wrote:
> On the 25th August 1991 the following message appeared on the 
> newsgroup /comp.os.minix/:
>
> /Hello everybody out there using minix- /
>
> /I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big
> and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has
> been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like
> any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix; as my OS
> resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-sytem
> due to practical reasons)among other things. /
>
> /I've currently ported bash (1.08) an gcc (1.40), and things seem to work.
> This implies that i'll get something practical within a few months, 
> and I'd
> like to know what features most people want. Any suggestions are welcome,
> but I won't promise I'll implement them  /
>
> /Linus Torvalds torvalds@... 
> <mailto:torvalds@...> /
>
>
> *Happy Birthday Linux!!!*
>
>
> Ramon Casha
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Oh god, not this again.

This is the anniversary of Linux - the announcement of the kernel  
project, and has nothing to do with GNU. GNU was announced on  
September 27th, 1983. So this is unrelated.

Furthermore, note how Linus says he has ported bash and gcc from  
Minix, which in turn were ported from GNU. So shouldn't this be GNU/ 
MINIX/Linux?

So, with that reasoning, shouldn't I be using GNU/MINIX/Linux/SuSE/ 
OpenSuse/11?

I hardly think the over complication of names is going to help promote  
Linux in any way. Just see the recent article released by the  
government which talks about the GRIMP.

Keith

On 25 Aug 2008, at 10:06, Jean Azzopardi wrote:

> One mistake : GNU/Linux.
> Ramon Casha wrote:
>> On the 25th August 1991 the following message appeared on the
>> newsgroup /comp.os.minix/:
>>
>> /Hello everybody out there using minix- /
>>
>> /I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big
>> and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has
>> been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like
>> any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix; as my OS
>> resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-sytem
>> due to practical reasons)among other things. /
>>
>> /I've currently ported bash (1.08) an gcc (1.40), and things seem  
>> to work.
>> This implies that i'll get something practical within a few months,
>> and I'd
>> like to know what features most people want. Any suggestions are  
>> welcome,
>> but I won't promise I'll implement them  /
>>
>> /Linus Torvalds torvalds@...
>> <mailto:torvalds@...> /
>>
>>
>> *Happy Birthday Linux!!!*
>>
>>
>> Ramon Casha
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I was being a troll :P
Keith Vassallo wrote:
> Oh god, not this again.
>
> This is the anniversary of Linux - the announcement of the kernel 
> project, and has nothing to do with GNU. GNU was announced on 
> September 27th, 1983. So this is unrelated.
>
> Furthermore, note how Linus says he has ported bash and gcc from 
> Minix, which in turn were ported from GNU. So shouldn't this be 
> GNU/MINIX/Linux?
>
> So, with that reasoning, shouldn't I be using 
> GNU/MINIX/Linux/SuSE/OpenSuse/11?
>
> I hardly think the over complication of names is going to help promote 
> Linux in any way. Just see the recent article released by the 
> government which talks about the GRIMP.
>
> Keith
>
> On 25 Aug 2008, at 10:06, Jean Azzopardi wrote:
>
>> One mistake : GNU/Linux.
>> Ramon Casha wrote:
>>> On the 25th August 1991 the following message appeared on the
>>> newsgroup /comp.os.minix/:
>>>
>>> /Hello everybody out there using minix- /
>>>
>>> /I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big
>>> and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has
>>> been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like
>>> any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix; as my OS
>>> resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-sytem
>>> due to practical reasons)among other things. /
>>>
>>> /I've currently ported bash (1.08) an gcc (1.40), and things seem to 
>>> work.
>>> This implies that i'll get something practical within a few months,
>>> and I'd
>>> like to know what features most people want. Any suggestions are 
>>> welcome,
>>> but I won't promise I'll implement them  /
>>>
>>> /Linus Torvalds torvalds@...
>>> <mailto:torvalds@...> /
>>>
>>>
>>> *Happy Birthday Linux!!!*
>>>
>>>
>>> Ramon Casha
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Did you know that Linus actually wanted to name the project 'Freax' ?
It was actually another guy (Ari Lemke) who came with the mockup of
'Linux' which
was than widely accepted by the community.

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Lol :P

Keith Vassallo wrote:
> Yep, 
>
> That pretty much nails it!
>
> Keith
>
> On 25 Aug 2008, at 12:55, Anton Xuereb wrote:
>
>> tbh, i think we should stick to calling it linux....the gnu guys are 
>> just sore about hurd never taking off and want a piece of the 
>> action...so everytime someone calls it linux they throw a tantrum 
>> about it being calling GNU/LINUX just to have their name in it
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Ramon Casha <rcasha@... 
>> <mailto:rcasha@...>> wrote:
>>
>>     Nah. I don't agree - for two reasons. First and most importantly,
>>     because it annoys Richard Stallman.
>>
>>     Second: What about X11? To many people it's as much a part of the
>>     operating system as the find utility by GNU. What about KDE? With
>>     Linux, the line between operating system and applications is more
>>     blurred than with Windows since in Windows you have to pay extra
>>     for everything, whereas in Linux you get everything packaged on
>>     the same CD. So you're running
>>     GNU/Linux/Xorg/Qt/KDE/OpenOffice.org/Mozilla/Ximian/etc.... or
>>     just Linux :)
>>
>>     Ramon Casha
>>
>>
>>     2008/8/25 Jean Azzopardi <aragorn@...
>>     <mailto:aragorn@...>>
>>
>>         One mistake : GNU/Linux.
>>         Ramon Casha wrote:
>>         > On the 25th August 1991 the following message appeared on the
>>         > newsgroup /comp.os.minix/:
>>         >
>>         > /Hello everybody out there using minix- /
>>         >
>>         > /I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't
>>         be big
>>         > and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has
>>         > been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd
>>         like
>>         > any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix; as my OS
>>         > resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-sytem
>>         > due to practical reasons)among other things. /
>>         >
>>         > /I've currently ported bash (1.08) an gcc (1.40), and
>>         things seem to work.
>>         > This implies that i'll get something practical within a few
>>         months,
>>         > and I'd
>>         > like to know what features most people want. Any
>>         suggestions are welcome,
>>         > but I won't promise I'll implement them  /
>>         >
>>         > /Linus Torvalds torvalds@...
>>         <mailto:torvalds@...>
>>         > <mailto:torvalds@...
>>         <mailto:torvalds@...>> /
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > *Happy Birthday Linux!!!*
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Ramon Casha
>>         >
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I call it "ubuntu".
or simply say "I don't have windows on my pc" and when people ask
"what? how?" I just smirk sardonically, and walk around pretending to
be a penguin.

Jum l-Ghasfura (heppi bird-day) it-tajjeb lil-Linux! But shouldn't we
be counting its age in jiffies?

philip

2008/8/25 Jean Azzopardi <aragorn@...>:
> Lol :P
>
> Keith Vassallo wrote:
>> Yep,
>>
>> That pretty much nails it!
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> On 25 Aug 2008, at 12:55, Anton Xuereb wrote:
>>
>>> tbh, i think we should stick to calling it linux....the gnu guys are
>>> just sore about hurd never taking off and want a piece of the
>>> action...so everytime someone calls it linux they throw a tantrum
>>> about it being calling GNU/LINUX just to have their name in it
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Ramon Casha <rcasha@...
>>> <mailto:rcasha@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Nah. I don't agree - for two reasons. First and most importantly,
>>>     because it annoys Richard Stallman.
>>>
>>>     Second: What about X11? To many people it's as much a part of the
>>>     operating system as the find utility by GNU. What about KDE? With
>>>     Linux, the line between operating system and applications is more
>>>     blurred than with Windows since in Windows you have to pay extra
>>>     for everything, whereas in Linux you get everything packaged on
>>>     the same CD. So you're running
>>>     GNU/Linux/Xorg/Qt/KDE/OpenOffice.org/Mozilla/Ximian/etc.... or
>>>     just Linux :)
>>>
>>>     Ramon Casha
>>>
>>>
>>>     2008/8/25 Jean Azzopardi <aragorn@...
>>>     <mailto:aragorn@...>>
>>>
>>>         One mistake : GNU/Linux.
>>>         Ramon Casha wrote:
>>>         > On the 25th August 1991 the following message appeared on the
>>>         > newsgroup /comp.os.minix/:
>>>         >
>>>         > /Hello everybody out there using minix- /
>>>         >
>>>         > /I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't
>>>         be big
>>>         > and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has
>>>         > been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd
>>>         like
>>>         > any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix; as my OS
>>>         > resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-sytem
>>>         > due to practical reasons)among other things. /
>>>         >
>>>         > /I've currently ported bash (1.08) an gcc (1.40), and
>>>         things seem to work.
>>>         > This implies that i'll get something practical within a few
>>>         months,
>>>         > and I'd
>>>         > like to know what features most people want. Any
>>>         suggestions are welcome,
>>>         > but I won't promise I'll implement them  /
>>>         >
>>>         > /Linus Torvalds torvalds@...
>>>         <mailto:torvalds@...>
>>>         > <mailto:torvalds@...
>>>         <mailto:torvalds@...>> /
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > *Happy Birthday Linux!!!*
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > Ramon Casha
>>>         >
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Except linux is just the kernel and has nothing to do with the desktop
right ? :-p
Philip

2008/8/25 Anton Xuereb <mewt.reaper@...>:
> actually in year of the desktop time
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Philip Serracino Inglott <phsi@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> I call it "ubuntu".
>> or simply say "I don't have windows on my pc" and when people ask
>> "what? how?" I just smirk sardonically, and walk around pretending to
>> be a penguin.
>>
>> Jum l-Ghasfura (heppi bird-day) it-tajjeb lil-Linux! But shouldn't we
>> be counting its age in jiffies?
>>
>> philip
>>
>> 2008/8/25 Jean Azzopardi <aragorn@...>:
>> > Lol :P
>> >
>> > Keith Vassallo wrote:
>> >> Yep,
>> >>
>> >> That pretty much nails it!
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >> On 25 Aug 2008, at 12:55, Anton Xuereb wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> tbh, i think we should stick to calling it linux....the gnu guys are
>> >>> just sore about hurd never taking off and want a piece of the
>> >>> action...so everytime someone calls it linux they throw a tantrum
>> >>> about it being calling GNU/LINUX just to have their name in it
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Ramon Casha <rcasha@...
>> >>> <mailto:rcasha@...>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>     Nah. I don't agree - for two reasons. First and most importantly,
>> >>>     because it annoys Richard Stallman.
>> >>>
>> >>>     Second: What about X11? To many people it's as much a part of the
>> >>>     operating system as the find utility by GNU. What about KDE? With
>> >>>     Linux, the line between operating system and applications is more
>> >>>     blurred than with Windows since in Windows you have to pay extra
>> >>>     for everything, whereas in Linux you get everything packaged on
>> >>>     the same CD. So you're running
>> >>>     GNU/Linux/Xorg/Qt/KDE/OpenOffice.org/Mozilla/Ximian/etc.... or
>> >>>     just Linux :)
>> >>>
>> >>>     Ramon Casha
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>     2008/8/25 Jean Azzopardi <aragorn@...
>> >>>     <mailto:aragorn@...>>
>> >>>
>> >>>         One mistake : GNU/Linux.
>> >>>         Ramon Casha wrote:
>> >>>         > On the 25th August 1991 the following message appeared on
>> >>> the
>> >>>         > newsgroup /comp.os.minix/:
>> >>>         >
>> >>>         > /Hello everybody out there using minix- /
>> >>>         >
>> >>>         > /I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't
>> >>>         be big
>> >>>         > and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has
>> >>>         > been brewing since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd
>> >>>         like
>> >>>         > any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix; as my
>> >>> OS
>> >>>         > resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the
>> >>> file-sytem
>> >>>         > due to practical reasons)among other things. /
>> >>>         >
>> >>>         > /I've currently ported bash (1.08) an gcc (1.40), and
>> >>>         things seem to work.
>> >>>         > This implies that i'll get something practical within a few
>> >>>         months,
>> >>>         > and I'd
>> >>>         > like to know what features most people want. Any
>> >>>         suggestions are welcome,
>> >>>         > but I won't promise I'll implement them  /
>> >>>         >
>> >>>         > /Linus Torvalds torvalds@...
>> >>>         <mailto:torvalds@...>
>> >>>         > <mailto:torvalds@...
>> >>>         <mailto:torvalds@...>> /
>> >>>         >
>> >>>         >
>> >>>         > *Happy Birthday Linux!!!*
>> >>>         >
>> >>>         >
>> >>>         > Ramon Casha
>> >>>         >
>> >>>
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