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Gabriel H. Mercado | 9 Jul 00:28

Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Am resending this:

Wassup people of PLUG

A week ago I received a proposal from a company called Firsteventsasia (Firsteventsasia.com).

They do events, and are holding one of those generic IT ones called 'Philippine Information Technology Expo and Business Solutions Summit' on Sep 30 - Oct 2 at Philippine Trade and Training Center, Roxas Blvd.

Anyway they want an ex-deal. They are giving us a venue for an EB / gathering in exchange for plugging their event on our website.

Here's the text from their proposal:

Philippine International Information Technology Expo 2008 Information Technology for the Enterprise "Bridging Digital Divide in the Country Today"

On Sept. 30 - Oct 2, 2008, we will be holding the Philippine Information Technology Expo and Business Solutions Summit with a theme "Bridging Digital Divide in the Country Today" back to back with a IT Jobs Fair at the Philippine Trade Training Center Roxas Boulevard Pasay City.  .  

EVENT HIGHLIGHTS
- Multiple Conference Tracks with top level executives speaking on the podium!
- A plenary session geared to address technological advancements and the digital divide in the country today
- Country Pavilions by participating countries
- Job Fair for the IT enabled services industry

In view of all these, we would like to have you as one of our supporting associations for the event. By being one you will have the following benefits:

a. You may give your collaterals or leaflets at the venue
b. Your  Logo and Company will be tagged as Supporting Associations and be included in the event advertising materials like Posters, Magazines and Newspapers
c. Your Logo will be included in the Invitation Letters sent to IT Company Offices and Website Media Partner Pages
d. Your Company Logo will be included in the event website for 1 year with active link linking to your website
e. Your Company will be acknowledged 10 times per day on the event
f. You may do a presentation at the stage area (this is on a first come first serve basis)

If you need a booth/E. B Station in our event, you can request to us as early as possible so that we can arrange it as early as possible also.

In exchange for all these we will only ask to place a banner ad to be prominently displayed at your website months before the event and usage of your organization logo.

You will greatly honor us with your support in this endeavor. We believe that this ambitious undertaking would be more possible to happen with your company at our side. Please don't hesitate to call me in our numbers below for any inquiries. We would like to thank you for your time and more power to you and your company!

I'm particularly interested in the 'presentation at the stage area' and 'booth/EB station'.

I'm thinking this is a good chance for us to hang out and get together, while checking out the other stuff going on at the event, and maybe hold a nice conference or two, where people can just talk about stuff they're doing (like topics we discussed in an earlier post). I'm not really interested in promoting PLUG - instead we can use this event to get a chance to meet and greet, do a show and tell, and if someone has a prepared topic to talk about, discuss stuff there.

I'm willing to 'man' the booth (if we'll get one), and help sched an activity or two. We can be very informal about this, and just work out stuff as we go along. In other words, no stress sana (who wants that?)

The good thing about this is that there is NO COST on our part. Pawis lang, 'ika nga.

what do you think guys? I wanna get some 'yeah looks good' votes before saying yes, or if there's an argument against doing such a thing, let's hear it.

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wyu | 9 Jul 00:52

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal


Sounds interesting. Should be a nice reason to get together. I suggest the officers just fix the manning
schedule and decorate the booth. The last thing we want is an empty booth.

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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:29:27 
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eric pareja | 9 Jul 00:59

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

who are the de facto officers these days?

On 7/9/08, wyu <at> ateneo.edu <wyu <at> ateneo.edu> wrote:
>
>  Sounds interesting. Should be a nice reason to get together. I suggest the officers just fix the manning
schedule and decorate the booth. The last thing we want is an empty booth.
>
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wyu | 9 Jul 01:23

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Good question. The last I checked it was Marvin and company. Not sure if there was an election after that.
------Original Message------
From: eric pareja
Sender: 
To: aaa-William Yu
To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List
Sent: Jul 9, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [plug] Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

who are the de facto officers these days?

On 7/9/08, wyu <at> ateneo.edu <wyu <at> ateneo.edu> wrote:
>
>  Sounds interesting. Should be a nice reason to get together. I suggest the officers just fix the manning
schedule and decorate the booth. The last thing we want is an empty booth.
>
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Gabriel H. Mercado | 9 Jul 01:56

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

There aren't any officers, and if we sit around waiting for officers, walang mangyayari.

Let's just do this, ok guys?

I'll say yes. I'll ex-deal it with an announcement on our website plus a one - time 'email blast' on this list (the accepted politically correct term for spam used by local marketers), so forgive me ahead of time.

the floor is open for talk about arrangements, such as:

who can make presentations.
who do you nominate to make a presentations, but is too shy to come out himself.
what topics do you wanna talk and hear about.
who can hang out with me sa booth (not necessarily for the whole 3 days, even just a day or half a day. I can probably do only half days as well.)
I need an artist to make a logo for PLUG, please come forward.

Essentially, the event managers are just going for 'warm bodies' and activity, while we want a venue, so the deal looks good.

Gary


On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:25 AM, <wyu-4HcBwXRgfEI3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Good question. The last I checked it was Marvin and company. Not sure if there was an election after that.
------Original Message------
From: eric pareja
Sender:
To: aaa-William Yu
To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List
Sent: Jul 9, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [plug] Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

who are the de facto officers these days?

On 7/9/08, wyu-4HcBwXRgfEI3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org <wyu-4HcBwXRgfEI3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>  Sounds interesting. Should be a nice reason to get together. I suggest the officers just fix the manning schedule and decorate the booth. The last thing we want is an empty booth.
>
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wyu | 9 Jul 02:11

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

I suggest

1. Use old logos
2. Make banner
3. Call for booth manning people
4. Assign point person - Gabe Mercardo

Good luck!

"Sent via BlackBerry from Smart"

From: "Gabriel H. Mercado" <ghmercado <at> gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:56:53 +0800
To: <wyu <at> ateneo.edu>; Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List<plug <at> lists.linux.org.ph>
CC: eric pareja<eric.pareja <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [plug] Phil IT Expo Ex Deal
There aren't any officers, and if we sit around waiting for officers, walang mangyayari.

Let's just do this, ok guys?

I'll say yes. I'll ex-deal it with an announcement on our website plus a one - time 'email blast' on this list (the accepted politically correct term for spam used by local marketers), so forgive me ahead of time.

the floor is open for talk about arrangements, such as:

who can make presentations.
who do you nominate to make a presentations, but is too shy to come out himself.
what topics do you wanna talk and hear about.
who can hang out with me sa booth (not necessarily for the whole 3 days, even just a day or half a day. I can probably do only half days as well.)
I need an artist to make a logo for PLUG, please come forward.

Essentially, the event managers are just going for 'warm bodies' and activity, while we want a venue, so the deal looks good.

Gary


On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:25 AM, <wyu <at> ateneo.edu> wrote:
Good question. The last I checked it was Marvin and company. Not sure if there was an election after that.
------Original Message------
From: eric pareja
Sender:
To: aaa-William Yu
To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List
Sent: Jul 9, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [plug] Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

who are the de facto officers these days?

On 7/9/08, wyu <at> ateneo.edu <wyu <at> ateneo.edu> wrote:
>
>  Sounds interesting. Should be a nice reason to get together. I suggest the officers just fix the manning schedule and decorate the booth. The last thing we want is an empty booth.
>
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the Philippines Manila
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Holden Hao | 9 Jul 02:34

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM,  <wyu@...> wrote:
> I suggest
>
> 1. Use old logos
> 2. Make banner
> 3. Call for booth manning people
> 4. Assign point person - Gabe Mercardo

I say go for it.

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Paolo Falcone | 9 Jul 04:39

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

1. Old logos are with me. I'm just in Makati at Valero.
2. The old banner - I think I have it stored in my house in Pasig
(would have to look for it sometime)

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM,  <wyu@...> wrote:
> I suggest
>
> 1. Use old logos
> 2. Make banner
> 3. Call for booth manning people
> 4. Assign point person - Gabe Mercardo
>
> Good luck!
>
> "Sent via BlackBerry from Smart"
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Gabriel H. Mercado" <ghmercado@...>
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:56:53 +0800
> To: <wyu@...>; Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical
> Discussion List<plug@...>
> CC: eric pareja<eric.pareja@...>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Phil IT Expo Ex Deal
> There aren't any officers, and if we sit around waiting for officers, walang
> mangyayari.
>
> Let's just do this, ok guys?
>
> I'll say yes. I'll ex-deal it with an announcement on our website plus a one
> - time 'email blast' on this list (the accepted politically correct term for
> spam used by local marketers), so forgive me ahead of time.
>
> the floor is open for talk about arrangements, such as:
>
> who can make presentations.
> who do you nominate to make a presentations, but is too shy to come out
> himself.
> what topics do you wanna talk and hear about.
> who can hang out with me sa booth (not necessarily for the whole 3 days,
> even just a day or half a day. I can probably do only half days as well.)
> I need an artist to make a logo for PLUG, please come forward.
>
> Essentially, the event managers are just going for 'warm bodies' and
> activity, while we want a venue, so the deal looks good.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:25 AM, <wyu@...> wrote:
>>
>> Good question. The last I checked it was Marvin and company. Not sure if
>> there was an election after that.
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: eric pareja
>> Sender:
>> To: aaa-William Yu
>> To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List
>> Sent: Jul 9, 2008 6:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [plug] Phil IT Expo Ex Deal
>>
>> who are the de facto officers these days?
>>
>> On 7/9/08, wyu@...
<wyu@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >  Sounds interesting. Should be a nice reason to get together. I suggest
>> > the officers just fix the manning schedule and decorate the booth. The last
>> > thing we want is an empty booth.
>> >
>> --
>> eric pareja (eric.pareja@...)
>> Coordinator for Technology,  National Telehealth Center, University of
>> the Philippines Manila
>> "Ang mundo ay aklat, at iisang pahina lamang ang nababasa ng hindi
>> naglalakbay."
>>  わかよたれぞ　つねならむ
>>
>>
>> "Sent via BlackBerry from Smart"
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Gabriel H. Mercado | 9 Jul 04:43

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

is it possible for you to email me the logo Paolo? thank you

2008/7/9 Paolo Falcone <pfalcone-ctE++fEYmiYdc6zLPptBHg@public.gmane.org>:
1. Old logos are with me. I'm just in Makati at Valero.
2. The old banner - I think I have it stored in my house in Pasig
(would have to look for it sometime)

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM,  <wyu-4HcBwXRgfEI3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I suggest
>
> 1. Use old logos
> 2. Make banner
> 3. Call for booth manning people
> 4. Assign point person - Gabe Mercardo
>
> Good luck!
>
> "Sent via BlackBerry from Smart"
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Gabriel H. Mercado" <ghmercado-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:56:53 +0800
> To: <wyu-4HcBwXRgfEI3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org>; Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical
> Discussion List<plug-cunTk1MwBs8iFSDQTTA3ONd+tgCGH7ND@public.gmane.org>
> CC: eric pareja<eric.pareja-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Phil IT Expo Ex Deal
> There aren't any officers, and if we sit around waiting for officers, walang
> mangyayari.
>
> Let's just do this, ok guys?
>
> I'll say yes. I'll ex-deal it with an announcement on our website plus a one
> - time 'email blast' on this list (the accepted politically correct term for
> spam used by local marketers), so forgive me ahead of time.
>
> the floor is open for talk about arrangements, such as:
>
> who can make presentations.
> who do you nominate to make a presentations, but is too shy to come out
> himself.
> what topics do you wanna talk and hear about.
> who can hang out with me sa booth (not necessarily for the whole 3 days,
> even just a day or half a day. I can probably do only half days as well.)
> I need an artist to make a logo for PLUG, please come forward.
>
> Essentially, the event managers are just going for 'warm bodies' and
> activity, while we want a venue, so the deal looks good.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:25 AM, <wyu-4HcBwXRgfEI3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> Good question. The last I checked it was Marvin and company. Not sure if
>> there was an election after that.
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: eric pareja
>> Sender:
>> To: aaa-William Yu
>> To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List
>> Sent: Jul 9, 2008 6:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [plug] Phil IT Expo Ex Deal
>>
>> who are the de facto officers these days?
>>
>> On 7/9/08, wyu-4HcBwXRgfEI3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org <wyu-4HcBwXRgfEI3uPMLIKxrzw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >  Sounds interesting. Should be a nice reason to get together. I suggest
>> > the officers just fix the manning schedule and decorate the booth. The last
>> > thing we want is an empty booth.
>> >
>> --
>> eric pareja (eric.pareja-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org)
>> Coordinator for Technology,  National Telehealth Center, University of
>> the Philippines Manila
>> "Ang mundo ay aklat, at iisang pahina lamang ang nababasa ng hindi
>> naglalakbay."
>>  わかよたれぞ　つねならむ
>>
>>
>> "Sent via BlackBerry from Smart"
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david t. asuncion, jr. | 9 Jul 05:00

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

This would be a great idea.

I'll be coming from Tarlac, I'll take a leave to volunteer myself to help man the booth for a day.  And perhaps I can lend my notebook for a day...

Count me in.

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eric pareja | 9 Jul 07:08

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Gabe,

Sorry if I had come across as disagreeing to the activity. By all
means, go for it.

I just wanted to reiterate the need for officers, de jure or de facto.
You are stepping up to the plate as de facto leader of PLUG now.

On 7/9/08, Gabriel H. Mercado <ghmercado <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> There aren't any officers, and if we sit around waiting for officers, walang
> mangyayari.
>
> Let's just do this, ok guys?
>
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Gabriel H. Mercado | 10 Jul 06:08

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:08 PM, eric pareja <eric.pareja-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Gabe,

Sorry if I had come across as disagreeing to the activity. By all
means, go for it.

sorry for late reply no worries Eric I did not read that in your email as well thanks
 
I just wanted to reiterate the need for officers, de jure or de facto.
You are stepping up to the plate as de facto leader of PLUG now.

I am sure this situation is not what I was hoping to happen. I was kinda hoping to be part of someone else's efforts. However seeing as there is no one else, I am willing to do what I can. This puzzles me actually, which leads me to constantly ask people to speak up and say what's on their minds. If they don't see what we're trying to do as worthwhile, then enlighten me please.

Otherwise, why not join in and volunteer your time and whatever you can? Give back to the community that has, quite honestly, given us jobs, helped us earn a living and made life more interesting for us.

At any rate, I'm still looking for volunteers. The event is still a way off (Sep 30 - Oct 2), but you know how quickly these dates come up, so preparation is always good.

We are going to have a booth, and some time (to be determined later) for speaking engagements.

Please volunteer any of the ff.:
LAN equipment (a hub, a few cables and crimper. There will be wifi and internet connections at the venue)
A printer + paper
PCs and laptops (old and new - to show off what different distros can do).
Your time (I will assign you.)
Your money (uhoh.. that part gets tricky.. but I'll issue receipts, dtails later).
Make a presentation (about anything. Apache. Ubuntu. The CCTV discussion going on, etc.)
Help think of a contest (Installfest, etc. How do other linuxfests in other countries do it?)

and if you can't do any of above, just come over. I'll make a form on the site to confirm attendance (this will help the organizers determine who will come)

gary



 


On 7/9/08, Gabriel H. Mercado <ghmercado-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> There aren't any officers, and if we sit around waiting for officers, walang
> mangyayari.
>
> Let's just do this, ok guys?
>
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the Philippines Manila
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Michael Cole | 10 Jul 06:44

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

What would be nice is a good package for the people to take home with them.

Like posters, stickers, mouse pads, CD's, Magazine's and some other little 
items added in.

The public also like to know where I can get more info when is the next event, 
So a Sign-up sheet after the event, on the site is a good idea, not for the 
techy discussions but for up coming events, Always have the downloadable 
presentations if any are performed.

I dont know if we can get one of the companies in the Mag business to give us 
last months, Linux Journal, or my favorite, Linux Format.

More than One Distro, not just the CD but a write up to go with it.

In Linux Format they have the DVD plus a cool write up why you would like to 
try this cd.

Now once again we dont have a Board that can go out and get deals from the 
publishers, it all has to be done on the trust basis.

We need to talk to other organizations also like Open Moko - or One Laptop - 
or other groups that will not make it to the show but want their devices 
shown off. Even Asus EEE, they should be able to provide one or two for the 
show, Guru's show them off then the public buys them at a ASUS store... 

Get National Book store to supply some good books for the display, Come on not 
5 Year old ones, National..  Some O'reilly  , Apress, Syngress, Wrox.

Then we man Our Stage and show off all their products for them.. Perfect 
relationship.... 

Seen this in the Electronics arena before. Where at a point when we went to 
lunch Siemens manned our area, and we manned theirs during their breaks..

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Gabriel H. Mercado | 10 Jul 07:35

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

I'll be doing the PLUG website signups no prob with that.

Re giveaways, forget it Mike. That costs money. We do not have that.

Re tie ups and sponsorships, no I don't think that's gonna work out since we dont have an entity to speak of. And besides, do we really need sponsors? We have ourselves, all of us know a thing or two, and can lend easily available stuff like PCs, desktops, magazines, books, etc etc. Linux Mag back issues are P400 a pop, so I dunno about that either.

Re everything else why not ask for us Mike?

We can all make suggestions, but there's no one to DO those suggestions. So the solution is to do them yourself, really.

Gary




On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Michael Cole <colemichae-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
What would be nice is a good package for the people to take home with them.

Like posters, stickers, mouse pads, CD's, Magazine's and some other little
items added in.

The public also like to know where I can get more info when is the next event,
So a Sign-up sheet after the event, on the site is a good idea, not for the
techy discussions but for up coming events, Always have the downloadable
presentations if any are performed.

I dont know if we can get one of the companies in the Mag business to give us
last months, Linux Journal, or my favorite, Linux Format.

More than One Distro, not just the CD but a write up to go with it.

In Linux Format they have the DVD plus a cool write up why you would like to
try this cd.

Now once again we dont have a Board that can go out and get deals from the
publishers, it all has to be done on the trust basis.

We need to talk to other organizations also like Open Moko - or One Laptop -
or other groups that will not make it to the show but want their devices
shown off. Even Asus EEE, they should be able to provide one or two for the
show, Guru's show them off then the public buys them at a ASUS store...

Get National Book store to supply some good books for the display, Come on not
5 Year old ones, National..  Some O'reilly  , Apress, Syngress, Wrox.

Then we man Our Stage and show off all their products for them.. Perfect
relationship....

Seen this in the Electronics arena before. Where at a point when we went to
lunch Siemens manned our area, and we manned theirs during their breaks..





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Michael Cole | 10 Jul 07:59

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

On Thursday 10 July 2008 1:35:02 pm Gabriel H. Mercado wrote:
> I'll be doing the PLUG website signups no prob with that.
>
> Re giveaways, forget it Mike. That costs money. We do not have that.
>
> Re tie ups and sponsorships, no I don't think that's gonna work out since
> we dont have an entity to speak of. And besides, do we really need
> sponsors? We have ourselves, all of us know a thing or two, and can lend
> easily available stuff like PCs, desktops, magazines, books, etc etc. Linux
> Mag back issues are P400 a pop, so I dunno about that either.
>

Gary I thought i heard you say the below items a couple of months ago.

Shall we dance again, SEC Documentation required, Board needs to be created.

I will now remove myself from this list, as I have now completely lost 
interest in helping anyone, who does not want to listen and learn..

To the other guys good luck if you need help you have my address, and maybe 
see you out, and about..

that's not even a good reason enough Mike. Truth to tell, if it was just a 
matter of getting sponsors I can do that with my eyes closed. I hope that
doesn't sound too forward, it's just the truth. Getting corporate
sponsorship for a 126 (as of today) member org full of IT professionals is a
no - brainer.

what I'm looking for is Mission / Vision. Something like 'the goal is to
remove Win from all government offices', accompanied by a step by step
instruction as to how we are to do it, with goals set within time frames.
THAT, is how you set up an org.

Without a vision, it'll just be a social club. Kapihan. Inuman. Kwentuhan.
And the busy people on this list do not have time for just another social
club.

Ian Sison, actually, was the one who made me aware of this. The force is
strong with that guy, so I'm following his sage like advice.

At any rate, I wrote another post re looking for topics (I've actually
thought of another one pero later na). We can start with that, then let's
work our way to a Vision. Baby steps.

Gary

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Michael Cole <colemichae <at> gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Gary you wrote this last week...
>  the core reason of which, imo, is the lack of an agenda. A REASON.
>
>
> Now i see a reason, that something has to move...
>
> On Wednesday 21 May 2008 12:13:00 pm Marvin Pascual wrote:
> > Touch Solutions is willing to help revive the PLUG but they are still
> > waiting for the group to convene first. For now, there is no board and
> > officers for this group. So I believe that there must be a group of
> > people who can represent the PLUG if it's not possible to have its own
> > board and officers.
>
> Lets see the SEC doc get the board convened then plan something
> substantial.
>
> Lets start the ball rolling, with out the SEC and Board no one is going to
> give us money for the events.
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Maverik | 10 Jul 08:21

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Hi Everyone,

I will ask some Linux hobbyist in our department. I can get back to you on Monday if somebody can stay on the booth.

Anong oras ba nagbubukas ang expo and what time matatapos?

Regards,
Maenard

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado <ghmercado-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I'll be doing the PLUG website signups no prob with that.

Re giveaways, forget it Mike. That costs money. We do not have that.

Re tie ups and sponsorships, no I don't think that's gonna work out since we dont have an entity to speak of. And besides, do we really need sponsors? We have ourselves, all of us know a thing or two, and can lend easily available stuff like PCs, desktops, magazines, books, etc etc. Linux Mag back issues are P400 a pop, so I dunno about that either.

Re everything else why not ask for us Mike?

We can all make suggestions, but there's no one to DO those suggestions. So the solution is to do them yourself, really.

Gary





On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Michael Cole <colemichae-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
What would be nice is a good package for the people to take home with them.

Like posters, stickers, mouse pads, CD's, Magazine's and some other little
items added in.

The public also like to know where I can get more info when is the next event,
So a Sign-up sheet after the event, on the site is a good idea, not for the
techy discussions but for up coming events, Always have the downloadable
presentations if any are performed.

I dont know if we can get one of the companies in the Mag business to give us
last months, Linux Journal, or my favorite, Linux Format.

More than One Distro, not just the CD but a write up to go with it.

In Linux Format they have the DVD plus a cool write up why you would like to
try this cd.

Now once again we dont have a Board that can go out and get deals from the
publishers, it all has to be done on the trust basis.

We need to talk to other organizations also like Open Moko - or One Laptop -
or other groups that will not make it to the show but want their devices
shown off. Even Asus EEE, they should be able to provide one or two for the
show, Guru's show them off then the public buys them at a ASUS store...

Get National Book store to supply some good books for the display, Come on not
5 Year old ones, National..  Some O'reilly  , Apress, Syngress, Wrox.

Then we man Our Stage and show off all their products for them.. Perfect
relationship....

Seen this in the Electronics arena before. Where at a point when we went to
lunch Siemens manned our area, and we manned theirs during their breaks..





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Gabriel H. Mercado | 10 Jul 08:25

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

No info yet on time it opens or closes. Will update everyone once I do thanks Maenard.

Re Mike, will be getting in touch with him. Apologies if I ruffled a few feathers, am as unsure about this as anyone, hence my constant request for discuss. Many thanks.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Maverik <mllmartinez-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I will ask some Linux hobbyist in our department. I can get back to you on Monday if somebody can stay on the booth.

Anong oras ba nagbubukas ang expo and what time matatapos?

Regards,
Maenard


On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado <ghmercado-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I'll be doing the PLUG website signups no prob with that.

Re giveaways, forget it Mike. That costs money. We do not have that.

Re tie ups and sponsorships, no I don't think that's gonna work out since we dont have an entity to speak of. And besides, do we really need sponsors? We have ourselves, all of us know a thing or two, and can lend easily available stuff like PCs, desktops, magazines, books, etc etc. Linux Mag back issues are P400 a pop, so I dunno about that either.

Re everything else why not ask for us Mike?

We can all make suggestions, but there's no one to DO those suggestions. So the solution is to do them yourself, really.

Gary





On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Michael Cole <colemichae-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
What would be nice is a good package for the people to take home with them.

Like posters, stickers, mouse pads, CD's, Magazine's and some other little
items added in.

The public also like to know where I can get more info when is the next event,
So a Sign-up sheet after the event, on the site is a good idea, not for the
techy discussions but for up coming events, Always have the downloadable
presentations if any are performed.

I dont know if we can get one of the companies in the Mag business to give us
last months, Linux Journal, or my favorite, Linux Format.

More than One Distro, not just the CD but a write up to go with it.

In Linux Format they have the DVD plus a cool write up why you would like to
try this cd.

Now once again we dont have a Board that can go out and get deals from the
publishers, it all has to be done on the trust basis.

We need to talk to other organizations also like Open Moko - or One Laptop -
or other groups that will not make it to the show but want their devices
shown off. Even Asus EEE, they should be able to provide one or two for the
show, Guru's show them off then the public buys them at a ASUS store...

Get National Book store to supply some good books for the display, Come on not
5 Year old ones, National..  Some O'reilly  , Apress, Syngress, Wrox.

Then we man Our Stage and show off all their products for them.. Perfect
relationship....

Seen this in the Electronics arena before. Where at a point when we went to
lunch Siemens manned our area, and we manned theirs during their breaks..





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Orlando Andico | 10 Jul 08:39

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Mission and Vision.

If the problem is "what is PLUG's Mission" then why not talk with
Bluepoint again? they have been doing Linux advocacy for years and
years, with a good level of success. They also have entree into a
variety of open-source events which the PLUG-at-large is totally
unaware of... and they certainly have the vision.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado
<ghmercado@...> wrote:
> No info yet on time it opens or closes. Will update everyone once I do
> thanks Maenard.
>
> Re Mike, will be getting in touch with him. Apologies if I ruffled a few
> feathers, am as unsure about this as anyone, hence my constant request for
> discuss. Many thanks.

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Paolo Falcone | 10 Jul 09:28

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

A long time ago, the website had this for a vision and mission, and
the roles PLUG is supposed to play. Since I gathered this from the
first site before I launched the second one years ago, I reckon that
this was the mission and vision that existed sometime in the mid-90's:

VISION:
To be an enabler of human progress in the global society, starting
with the Philippines, by vigilantly advocating the use of Linux and
Open Source Software, so as to reflect positively on both the product,
its creators, developers, and users.

MISSION:
Provide for the needs of the Linux community and the general public in
furtherance of the Vision goals. Cooperate with and coordinate among
various sectors (research, education, corporate, government,
non-profit, etc.) in assisting the community (users and non-users
alike). Educate and empower members so that they will be
self-sustaining and self-motivating contributors to the Organization's
success.

ROLES:
Establish Special Interest Groups to further develop specific
technical, policy and/or social issues, according to each members'
interests and capability to contribute and learn. Promote Linux and
Open Source through electronic (web, mailing lists) and traditional
media, as well as via personal interaction (meetings, seminars).

Since we're not operating with a board, I agree with Michael that we
need to operate on a trust basis, then we can recreate the board,
update that SEC registration. We need warm bodies that we can trust.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Orlando Andico
<orly.andico@...> wrote:
> Mission and Vision.
>
> If the problem is "what is PLUG's Mission" then why not talk with
> Bluepoint again? they have been doing Linux advocacy for years and
> years, with a good level of success. They also have entree into a
> variety of open-source events which the PLUG-at-large is totally
> unaware of... and they certainly have the vision.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado
<ghmercado@...> wrote:
>> No info yet on time it opens or closes. Will update everyone once I do
>> thanks Maenard.
>>
>> Re Mike, will be getting in touch with him. Apologies if I ruffled a few
>> feathers, am as unsure about this as anyone, hence my constant request for
>> discuss. Many thanks.
>
>
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Orlando Andico | 10 Jul 09:37

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Too many motherhood statements.

Michael had a much more cogent and well-defined example.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Paolo Falcone <pfalcone@...> wrote:
..
> VISION:
> To be an enabler of human progress in the global society, starting
> with the Philippines, by vigilantly advocating the use of Linux and
> Open Source Software, so as to reflect positively on both the product,
> its creators, developers, and users.
>
> MISSION:
> Provide for the needs of the Linux community and the general public in
> furtherance of the Vision goals. Cooperate with and coordinate among
> various sectors (research, education, corporate, government,
> non-profit, etc.) in assisting the community (users and non-users
> alike). Educate and empower members so that they will be
> self-sustaining and self-motivating contributors to the Organization's
> success.
>
> ROLES:
> Establish Special Interest Groups to further develop specific
> technical, policy and/or social issues, according to each members'
> interests and capability to contribute and learn. Promote Linux and
> Open Source through electronic (web, mailing lists) and traditional
> media, as well as via personal interaction (meetings, seminars).
>
> Since we're not operating with a board, I agree with Michael that we
> need to operate on a trust basis, then we can recreate the board,
> update that SEC registration. We need warm bodies that we can trust.

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Paolo Falcone | 10 Jul 10:44

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

It is a lofty ideal, as it represents the organization's ideals. I
tend to believe though that PLUG in the past was able to do the roles
it has set itself to do, with varying results.

For an activity though, it's just too broad. I agree that there must
be a definite focus.

It would be best if we can tag along more like-minded organizations to
our cause also.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Orlando Andico
<orly.andico@...> wrote:
> Too many motherhood statements.
>
> Michael had a much more cogent and well-defined example.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Paolo Falcone <pfalcone@...> wrote:
> ..
>> VISION:
>> To be an enabler of human progress in the global society, starting
>> with the Philippines, by vigilantly advocating the use of Linux and
>> Open Source Software, so as to reflect positively on both the product,
>> its creators, developers, and users.
>>
>> MISSION:
>> Provide for the needs of the Linux community and the general public in
>> furtherance of the Vision goals. Cooperate with and coordinate among
>> various sectors (research, education, corporate, government,
>> non-profit, etc.) in assisting the community (users and non-users
>> alike). Educate and empower members so that they will be
>> self-sustaining and self-motivating contributors to the Organization's
>> success.
>>
>> ROLES:
>> Establish Special Interest Groups to further develop specific
>> technical, policy and/or social issues, according to each members'
>> interests and capability to contribute and learn. Promote Linux and
>> Open Source through electronic (web, mailing lists) and traditional
>> media, as well as via personal interaction (meetings, seminars).
>>
>> Since we're not operating with a board, I agree with Michael that we
>> need to operate on a trust basis, then we can recreate the board,
>> update that SEC registration. We need warm bodies that we can trust.
>
>
>
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Marvin Pascual | 15 Jul 15:36

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Hello all,

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Paolo Falcone <pfalcone@...> wrote:
>
> Since we're not operating with a board, I agree with Michael that we
> need to operate on a trust basis, then we can recreate the board,
> update that SEC registration. We need warm bodies that we can trust.

I will try to step up and volunteer myself to help PLUG boot again
from a long hibernation. I talked to some people and they are willing
to revive the organization. I just can't make it this month. So I
guess I can start this on August. I hope those people who are really
concerned with the organization not just for this upcoming event will
try to step up too. I am hoping that instead of bashing each other,
why not offer your time and help us out and meet regularly -
physically?

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Gabriel H. Mercado | 10 Jul 09:50

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Orly, Bluepoint is a company whose business revolves around open source. Hence it makes good marketing sense for them to support open source as it helps their business. Like all companies, their purpose is to earn money.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I run my own company. They're just not like us, which would be classified as an NGO. A non-profit, cause oriented advocacy.

But really, PLUG's mission isn't the issue here. The issue is the event. I was actually hoping the event would serve as a venue to discuss such things.

I had committed to it, and now I am committed to making it work. It is not by any stretch of the imagination a 'big' event. It's just us, a bunch of guys getting together to talk about, discuss and help promote F/OSS. It's simple.

I am not sure how I offended Mike. He is actually an ex officemate and someone I consider a good person, and obviously an active contributor here. I feel quite bad about it, and I will try to get in touch with him.

However, the event goes on. I am placing myself responsible for it to either work or go bust. I don't see how it could fail, as I have simple expectations. But if it does, so be it. It will not be for lack of trying.

Gary



On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Orlando Andico <orly.andico-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Mission and Vision.

If the problem is "what is PLUG's Mission" then why not talk with
Bluepoint again? they have been doing Linux advocacy for years and
years, with a good level of success. They also have entree into a
variety of open-source events which the PLUG-at-large is totally
unaware of... and they certainly have the vision.



On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado <ghmercado-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> No info yet on time it opens or closes. Will update everyone once I do
> thanks Maenard.
>
> Re Mike, will be getting in touch with him. Apologies if I ruffled a few
> feathers, am as unsure about this as anyone, hence my constant request for
> discuss. Many thanks.



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Jerome Gotangco | 10 Jul 10:42

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado
<ghmercado@...> wrote:
> Orly, Bluepoint is a company whose business revolves around open source.
> Hence it makes good marketing sense for them to support open source as it
> helps their business. Like all companies, their purpose is to earn money.

Bluepoint is a non profit educational foundation

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Gabriel H. Mercado | 10 Jul 10:56

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Jerome Gotangco <jgotangco-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado <ghmercado-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Orly, Bluepoint is a company whose business revolves around open source.
> Hence it makes good marketing sense for them to support open source as it
> helps their business. Like all companies, their purpose is to earn money.

Bluepoint is a non profit educational foundation

Okay my foot is now definitely in my mouth. I could've easily Googled that. LOL

Yes, Orly was right. I stand corrected.

Anyway, this is way too much stress for the day. I'll just go shoot hoops and hope the board doesnt fall on my head or something :P

Gary

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Orlando Andico | 10 Jul 11:00

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

Bluepoint also has these activities where they solicit ancient
hardware for companies, refurbish them, put Linux on them, and donate
them to impoverished public schools.

Like I said, they're doing something very similar to what Michael
referred to. And they've been doing it for years. Hence if PLUG wants
to do something meaningful, one way to jump-start it would be to go to
them and find out where they can use the willing hands/minds that PLUG
has to offer.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado
<ghmercado@...> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Jerome Gotangco <jgotangco@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado <ghmercado@...>
>> wrote:
>> > Orly, Bluepoint is a company whose business revolves around open source.
>> > Hence it makes good marketing sense for them to support open source as
>> > it
>> > helps their business. Like all companies, their purpose is to earn
>> > money.
>>
>> Bluepoint is a non profit educational foundation
>
> Okay my foot is now definitely in my mouth. I could've easily Googled that.
> LOL
>
> Yes, Orly was right. I stand corrected.
>
> Anyway, this is way too much stress for the day. I'll just go shoot hoops
> and hope the board doesnt fall on my head or something :P

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Marvin Pascual | 15 Jul 15:51

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Jerome Gotangco <jgotangco@...> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado
<ghmercado@...> wrote:
>> Orly, Bluepoint is a company whose business revolves around open source.
>> Hence it makes good marketing sense for them to support open source as it
>> helps their business. Like all companies, their purpose is to earn money.
>
> Bluepoint is a non profit educational foundation

But the people of Bluepoint are getting paid on what they do. Unlike
in PLUG, we are not paid of what we do.

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Holden Hao | 15 Jul 16:09

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

>> Bluepoint is a non profit educational foundation
>
> But the people of Bluepoint are getting paid on what they do. Unlike
> in PLUG, we are not paid of what we do.

Nevertheless, PLUG should have a viable business strategy to sustain
itself.  Volunteerism is good but it is not sustainable in the long
run.  If you look at most NGOs, the good ones that have been in
existence for a long time, all operate with a viable business model.
Some depend on donations.  That is their business model.

Our organization must have one as well.  We have tried pure
volunteerism and it does not work.  At the very least we need funds to
sustain a small set of employees that can do the leg work for whatever
projects that we embark on.

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Paolo Falcone | 15 Jul 16:27

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

I agree also on this. It's really difficult to operate without funds, and we can't depend solely on donations to sustain our activities.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Holden Hao <holdenhao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Bluepoint is a non profit educational foundation
>
> But the people of Bluepoint are getting paid on what they do. Unlike
> in PLUG, we are not paid of what we do.

Nevertheless, PLUG should have a viable business strategy to sustain
itself.  Volunteerism is good but it is not sustainable in the long
run.  If you look at most NGOs, the good ones that have been in
existence for a long time, all operate with a viable business model.
Some depend on donations.  That is their business model.

Our organization must have one as well.  We have tried pure
volunteerism and it does not work.  At the very least we need funds to
sustain a small set of employees that can do the leg work for whatever
projects that we embark on.


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Marvin Pascual | 15 Jul 18:06

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Holden Hao <holdenhao@...> wrote:
>>> Bluepoint is a non profit educational foundation
>>
>> But the people of Bluepoint are getting paid on what they do. Unlike
>> in PLUG, we are not paid of what we do.
>
> Nevertheless, PLUG should have a viable business strategy to sustain
> itself.  Volunteerism is good but it is not sustainable in the long
> run.  If you look at most NGOs, the good ones that have been in
> existence for a long time, all operate with a viable business model.
> Some depend on donations.  That is their business model.
>
> Our organization must have one as well.  We have tried pure
> volunteerism and it does not work.  At the very least we need funds to
> sustain a small set of employees that can do the leg work for whatever
> projects that we embark on.

Well, that's a good point to consider. But, the main problem of PLUG
is that, it doesn't have members in good standing to count on. My
contention is: the people on this list are not members of PLUG
(including me) rather members of the PLUG mailing list. Perchance, an
organization without any member is not an organization at all.
Subscribing to the fact that, organization is an aggregation of
different individuals. I don't even know if PLUG is still registered
to the SEC.

Now, this is where my dilemma bites, how can we start thinking on the
financial sustainability of PLUG if there are no members of good
standing and officers that are conventionally elected. Who will stand
up to fight or continue for its financial sustainability? Who will
handle the fruits/money on the aftermath of the said event if that's
the case? This is not a matter of delegation but an 'obligation' of a
cause. That is, if we want to uplift this as a credible organization.

For this reason, may I suggest that there will be members and officers
of PLUG. It will be a challenge then to the new officers to amend its
constitution and by-laws to state on how the organization can sustain
itself financially and give some amount of money to people who really
work for the organization.

Marvin
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Maverik | 10 Jul 09:55

Re: Phil IT Expo Ex Deal

 Hi Gary,

I already got 2 volunteers. I just need to discuss with them details next week how it goes since they will be out of the office; both of them are reporting on the same time in our department.

I will let you know kung tutoly sila once I talk to these guys. By the way, if you can send me the expectations of volunteers who are going to man the PLUG booth that would be great!

Regards,
Maenard

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado <ghmercado-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
No info yet on time it opens or closes. Will update everyone once I do thanks Maenard.

Re Mike, will be getting in touch with him. Apologies if I ruffled a few feathers, am as unsure about this as anyone, hence my constant request for discuss. Many thanks.


On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Maverik <mllmartinez-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I will ask some Linux hobbyist in our department. I can get back to you on Monday if somebody can stay on the booth.