John Cowan | 1 Nov 2004 04:29
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Re: Are we done with draft-hoffman-ftp-uri-02.txt?


Alun Jones scripsit:

> Did you check the commands going over the wire,

No.  When I say "conformant", I mean that the results are conformant,
not necessarily the method used.

> or just the effect of whether it could, or could not, fetch the file?

Depending on the behavior, it will actually fetch one of two different
files, locally known as /ftptest.txt and /export/home/stamber/ftptest.txt.
I urge people to try the URI, which I repeat here, with various different
tools: http://stamber:stamber <at> publish.reutershealth.com/ftptest.txt .

> I posted some results earlier about what I found when testing, and at
> that time, Firefox, Mozilla and Netscape all behaved just like Internet
> Explorer.  Netscape and Mozilla have behaved that way for, oh, about the
> last decade, having copied the behaviour over from NCSA Mosaic.

Well, FWIW, K-Meleon 0.8.2 (which is based on Mozilla 1.5) shows
the same behavior as Firefox: conformant.  I don't know what versions
of Netscape and Mozilla you were looking at.

> Thanks for noting that there are other FTP clients out there that handle
> FTP URIs - I had only seen the browsers' behaviour to date, and it's
> interesting to note that there are other FTP clients out there that may
> be behaving differently.

Here's everything I've looked at so far:
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Frank Ellermann | 1 Nov 2004 07:38
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Re: Are we done with draft-hoffman-ftp-uri-02.txt?


John Cowan wrote:

> http://stamber:stamber <at> publish.reutershealth.com/ftptest.txt
<URL:ftp://stamber:stamber <at> publish.reutershealth.com/ftptest.txt>

Mozilla 3 (*1):   "not conformant" (your definition)
Netscape 4.61:    "not conformant" 
GNU wget 1.7 (OS/2):  "conformant" (your definition)
IBM WebExplorer 1.1h: "conformant" (based on Mosaic)
curl.exe 7.4.1 (emx): inconclusive (can't connect after PASV)
curl.exe 7.4,1 -P:    inconclusive (server does not grok PORT)
ftppm (OS/2 ftp GUI); "conformant" (*2)
ftp.exe (Apr 16 '99): "conformant" (*2)
lynx (your version):  "conformant" (verified for OS/2)

*1: that's a Netscape 2.02 GUI, but internally Netscape 3.0
*2: manual ftp session
                       Bye, Frank


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